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09-06-23 17:57 #4954
Posts: 3211Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
When you got a girl like Lisa in tears and fucking you like she did, it means she really likes you. With my current woman, it was her tears that told me that she was in love with me. When you are a single mom, it is really tough. Before me, my gal spent every day on her daughter, working out, and at her job, and that was it. She did not have time for anything else. When I came along, she got back to having a life again, and it was not just the sex and fun. There was the adult companionship and having someone to hold at night.
With all this feminist dogma, and my mother grew up at the beginning of the movement, I was shocked to hear my own mother say, "It is great for a woman to have a man to care for. " That was something that was said in the 1950's, but you better not say it today. No, all that is said is what you can do for a woman, but women, even if they do not admit it now, really do like having a man to care for.
I can usually tell if a woman is a mother or not just by how they touch me. The single mom has a much more nurturing loving touch, and it seems like once that nurturing channel is open, it applies not just to children but their man as well.
My point is you didn't have to pay Lisa if you did not want to. For me, payment was to define it being a P4 P relationship that harkens back to that Charlie Sheen line that I am not paying them for sex but paying them to leave. If you want a relationship with this woman where you pay for dinner, travel ETC but not hard cash, it is / was there.
With my current gal, I met her off SA and left money in her purse the first time we met, and a guy on here ragged on me for giving her anything without asking, and he was right to rag on me. So the next time we met, I gave her no money and she still was willing to hang with me. That is why I so often tell guys on here to just try not mentioning money when meeting a SA woman. I was surprised how many women, granted not American women, were willing to meet without an upfront price.
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09-06-23 14:40 #4953
Posts: 585Diamond package
I am not considering upgrading. I'm honestly just curious. What's the point of the diamond subscription? It seems like very little benefit other than you get to signal you spent more on your subscription than the next guy. It seems like more a signal of stupidity than anything else. Am I missing the point?
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09-05-23 06:11 #4952
Posts: 67Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
So, again, you are spot on. The rule of Stan stands.
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09-05-23 03:09 #4951
Posts: 67Dating / Girlfriend Tour: Part 7 - Last few days of Barcelona
Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
Part 1 (Overview): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2842652.
Part 2 (Prep): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844638.
Part 3 (Madrid) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844961.
Part 4 (Barcelona. Naz and the threesome): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...41#post2845741.
Part 5 (Barcelona. Worst day of the tour): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...41#post2845741.
Part 6 (Barcelona. Continued): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...81#post2848081.
Day 7 in Barcelona
When I initially arrived in Barcelona, I wasn't sure how long I'll stay and had booked a hotel for only 2 nights. 7 days later, I am still here, now in my 3rd hotel. After yesterday night's awesome and quite interesting threesome, I felt like I am back in the game. I had one girl ready to meet tonight, with a few backups. With nothing interesting to do for the afternoon, I decided to set up a meet with one of the backups, Sophia, for lunch and fun.
Sophia is a 27 year old free-spirited hippie woman who has been courting me for a couple of months (by sending random photos or videos). She is attractive, but not really my type. I had been worried about drugs and diseases due to her hippie vibes, but decided to take a chance. Anyways, she comes to my hotel, we meet outside and go to eat at one of those lively open squares in the Gothic Quarter, where I find out that she is from Argentina (also that "Paella" In Argentinian Spanish is pronounced as "Paesha", TIL). She is chatty, but cute and has some really yummy lips that I wouldn't mind kissing and sucking. She asks if she can smoke and I say I don't mind. Apparently, she is one of those who rolls her own cigarette. Hippie indeed. Other than a few quirks, she looks and feels normal.
After lunch, we walk around the neighborhood and decide to go into the erotic museum on La Rambla. The museum has all sorts of suggestive pictures, movies and a lot of gadgets. Sophia knows a lot more than me about the various sex machines, and even finds one there that's similar to the one she has at her place. To be honest, this all didn't arouse me (or her), but it made the subject easy to talk about. After the museum, we go to my hotel's rooftop bar and have a few drinks, and chat about our sex lives.
Finally in the room, she offers to give me a massage first. I strip down and lay on my stomach, while she strips down and starts giving me a nice slow body rub. After a few minutes of this, I turn around and she kisses me from head to toe and then comes back to kiss me on my lips. The kiss turns quite passionate. I am enjoying it, but now regret letting her smoke before as there is a lingering cigarette smell. I try to ignore it and enjoy the moment. After a few minutes of passionate kissing during which we are exploring each others bodies, she decides to stroke my dick with her hands and then slides down and starts sucking it. She has a nice technique, I especially liked that she licks (and not just sucks) and uses her tongue a lot. I am sure I won't come with a BJ, so I put on a condom and she rides me in cowgirl. Her boobs are natural and bouncy and make for a nice scene. She gets tired after a while (I think), so she lies down next to me, and we go missionary while kissing passionately again. I am annoyed by the cigarette smell, but I compartmentalize my annoyance and shut it out and try to enjoy the moment. A while later, I take her to the edge of the bed and pound her with my feet on the ground. This works and I finally come.
After a while, she starts dressing, I realize and say that we never discussed allowance. She sheepishly says that yes we never talked about it, but she has done 300-400 before. I know I am never going to repeat her, so I offer 250, which she quickly agrees to. Clearly I could have gone lower, but she did spend 4+ hours with me, I didn't get bored the whole afternoon and the sex WAS good (apart from the cigarette smell). So I consider this a good deal overall for both sides.
At night, I have plans to meet with another girl called Lisa. She is 29 and has a nice body, but I wasn't sure about her face from her pics on SA. We meet at 9 pm outside my hotel and decide to walk to a high-end cocktail bar. In person she is prettier than her pics. Overall a 8/10. On the way, I learn that she is Catalan and a Barcelona local. We pass by a Cathedral that looked beautiful at night and she clicks some pictures of me standing in front of it. At the bar I ask the bartender for some custom cocktails made (off the menu) and she is surprised that something like that is even possible. Talking to her, I learn that she is a single mom, her husband died in a car crash when he was drunk, and so she avoids getting too drunk. Later we go downstairs to a club where there's a live music performance. She is enthralled by it. We leave once live music is over to get back to my hotel. Overall, I enjoyed spending time with her. Her face lights up when she sees something she loves (like the Cathedral at night, the fancy cocktails, the live performance etc) or learns something new (like about my culture) and it makes her personality very endearing. There's a little language barrier as her English is not as good, but I already know that I will repeat with her if the sex is any good.
I don't remember much about the sex that night, except that we kissed a lot and we mostly did missionary (I remember her fuck face). In general, I am into girl friend experience. With Lisa, there was unbridled passionate kissing, touching, teasing, looking deep into each other's eyes during missionary and overall we felt very comfortable with each other.
After sex, I put 350 in her purse (our agreed upon rate) and she hangs around a bit as if she wants to stay, but tells me that she needs to go as she has to drive and wants to be with her kid. So we kiss goodbye.
As I try to fall asleep, I realize that I have fucked 4 women in the last 24 hours: Patricia and Dana in the threesome last night, Sophia and Lisa today. Another first for me in my lifetime! Thank you SA and thank you guys in the ISG forum!
Day 8 in Barcelona
Got up late the next day, and decided to visit that Cathedral that I saw at night with Lisa in the afternoon. I seem to have something in me for larger than life buildings, because I loved spending time inside this Cathedral too (even though I am neither Christian, religious or spiritual). Funnily while I am inside, Lisa texts me asking me to send her the pic she took of me yesterday (in front of this Cathedral). Apparently, she wants it to have a memory of me. I tell her that she doesn't need to, since we can meet again tonight if she is interested. She says yes.
At night, we go to the same cocktail bar, try a few new drinks. There was no live music this time, but we spent the time talking about life. Apparently, she has a modeling career on the side and she shows me pictures from it. Her day job is in marketing.
Walking back to the hotel, she says if I want a massage. I say yes, but we start kissing as soon as we enter the room. There was this passion where we just couldn't keep our hands off each other. We make out, her body against the wall, my hands undressing her and then caressing her breasts and ass while she undresses me. After a few minutes of making out naked, we move to the bed. She puts on some light music and we fuck. It's a nice slow, romantic sex with her (like yesterday) and I love it. Again, I don't remember the details, but I remember that after the sex, while lying down on the bed, she is looking at me with that longing look, like she is falling for me. With any other woman, I may have started to get worried, but with her I am not since she has a kid and has been very clear about what SA means to her (a way for her to make extra money on the side). I know that even if she falls for me, it won't result in anything dangerous or crazy.
Day 9 in Barcelona
There were two youngish girls that I had been texting, so today I want to meet at least one of them. With the underage scare on my psyche forever (see "Part 5 - worst day of the tour") I now have a rule of checking their ID in person if they look too young. Maybe that ask is scaring them away. So I also let them know that they are free to hide their real name as long as their face and birthdate is visible. Both of them are busy at night, but one of them (Nat) is open to meeting in the afternoon. We meet outside my new hotel. Nat is just like her pictures. Petite, quite young and beautiful. She claimed to be 22 on SA, but I think she is younger. We go to a breakfast+drinks place, and she eats, but doesn't drink. Turns out that she just had Invisalign installed on her teeth. I get annoyed since this is something she should have told me, but I am a bit smitten by her beauty so I let it go. Nat is Ukrainian, is trying to become an actress, is estranged from her family and works part time in an erotic massage place. (One thing I have learned is that each one of them has an interesting life story).
Once we are back in the hotel room, she asks if she can massage me. I say yes, and strip naked and lay down on my stomach on the bed. She uses her erotic massage techniques to do a soft gentle massage on my body, while slowly arousing me. She did this thing where her hands gently brush off my balls or my shaft even when I am laying on my stomach. I dunno how she did it, but it was quite a sensual experience. After I turn around, she works on my dick with her hands and then puts on a condom to ride it like a cowgirl. Her pussy is quite tight and it almost feels like my dick can feel every single little movement she makes. After a while, she comes down on her back while I try to insert my dick to go missionary. It? S quite a tight fit and she says put it slowly please while I insert it. During missionary, I try to kiss her, but she doesn? T open her mouth, and then I remembered her invisalign. After a bit of missionary, I move to my favorite position (edge of the bed) and finish off there. Total damage: 400, which felt right although I wish we had kissed more. After she dresses, I remember I never asked her for her ID. LOL. I finally do, and she doesn't hide her name either. Turns out her real name is different than her stage name. Who knew. LOL. Looks like the girls also use fake names.
In the evening I text Patricia to get Dana's number (from Part 6's threesome). I remember how the sex with her was quite different, quite rough and I wanted to try that again. Patricia happily shares, and then I text Dana to see if she is interested to meet. She is leaving town the next day and is available. I ask her if she will kiss this time. She says that she is happy to kiss, but does tongue only with people she has been with for a while. At this point, I know I have other options, so I pass. I take it easy for the night, go to the Irish pub again and enjoy the night in solitude.
Day 10 and 11 in Barcelona
In a few days I have my flight back to the US from Amsterdam. I am loving here in Barcelona, but I have never been to Amsterdam and it feels odd not to spend a few days in Amsterdam when I need to fly out from there anyways. So I take it chill for the next 2 days and decide to stick with the known quantity: Lisa.
Day 10 night we meet again and go to the same bar. Have some nice conversation again and walk back to the hotel. This is the 2nd 5 star hotel I have met her in and she is in awe with the hotels, the rooms, the bathrooms and overall feel of the place. Anyways, back in the room, she wants to massage me (what's with the girls and massage? I agree. She gives a slow, okay massage, and then we fuck. This time she did try cowgirl, but we end up finishing in missionary with me staring at her face and she with her eyes closed and her mouth open in her fuck face.
Then, we lay on the bed for a long time. When I look at her, she is looking at me with tears in her eyes. I don't say anything, just kiss and hug her. After a while we get up, get dressed and she goes. This time I gave her all the money in my wallet (about 390) and she texts me later letting me know that I gave her extra. I tell her that it's for her kid and that we should try to meet again tomorrow as it's my last day in Barcelona.
Day 11, I have my flight to Amsterdam in the late afternoon so Lisa and I decide to meet at noon. She has been prodding me to try a local dish since the first time we met, but I didn't get time to try it yet and I was leaving today. So she surprises me and brings it for me. We sit in my hotel room, while I eat and we talk. After I am done eating, I ask if she wants to go out and she prefers to stay in the room. So we talk a bit more, I brush my teeth and then she proposes we shower together. My hotel bathroom has a nice mirror against the bathtub and while showering together, we admire the scene. Fuck, it feels like we are almost a couple with the way we are doing things at this point. After shower, we fuck. This time I tell her I want to go two times. So after the first time, she helps get my dick hard with her hands and mouth and then we go again. I don't come easily, but after I do, we are shit tired.
I give her 400 this time, and before leaving she tells me she will miss me a lot while tearing up a bit. Once she leaves, I pack up and leave for Amsterdam where already have plans to meet someone. More about that in the upcoming post. I also know that I will miss Spain a lot and it's going to be top of my list next time I get to travel alone again to Europe!
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09-03-23 22:16 #4950
Posts: 2793Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]
I love the SA, yes it can get expensive and takes some work, but it pays off.
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09-03-23 05:18 #4949
Posts: 724Response rate
Originally Posted by GoingDumb [View Original Post]
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09-03-23 02:33 #4948
Posts: 1202Totally agree
Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
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09-03-23 02:21 #4947
Posts: 1202Late 20's to mid 40's
Originally Posted by BlueMoon22 [View Original Post]
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09-01-23 23:33 #4946
Posts: 241I did
I did pay 200 for her tires.
Thats the fee I paid early on in the game to learn the most important lesson -.
"No feelings on SA". Meet check chemistry, if yes, fuck. If fuck is great, repeat.
My cap is 300 in europe and 400 in US. Other expenses on me.
No more busines of money before fuck.
"Dick in pussy, then cash in purse. " Eventually, I may grow to give $ before deed. Like my best SB ever in Spain. Last month, she got into some trouble on her bills. I sent her money for the whole bill even from the US. She is the one who refuses to take money from me. Those kind of girls, Ingo to help. But, they got to earn my trust first.
Originally Posted by BlueMoon22 [View Original Post]
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09-01-23 17:26 #4945
Posts: 125Originally Posted by BlueMoon22 [View Original Post]
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09-01-23 16:43 #4944
Posts: 171Originally Posted by AmericanPi [View Original Post]
What age do most of you search for or seek? Early 20's seem to flake more to me. Late 20's early 30's seem the sweet spot for me.
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09-01-23 14:31 #4943
Posts: 585Originally Posted by GoingDumb [View Original Post]
I'm struggling to find more cities like those because I am kinda tired of visiting them. I almost emailed Seeking to ask what their biggest membership cities were and then thought nah, getting on their radar isn't a good idea.
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09-01-23 07:00 #4942
Posts: 171Originally Posted by GoingDumb [View Original Post]
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09-01-23 06:51 #4941
Posts: 171Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
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09-01-23 06:27 #4940
Posts: 67Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Cheers,
Ravi.