Seeking Arrangements

[Gfefan]

I couldn't have said this better. Thanks, Steve for holding a high standard.

I know we all differ culturally and some countries have this practice of passing around girls like they are poker chips or something. They are not. Most of the guys on this Seeking thread are after real girls with connection. And at the very least have done a shit ton of work separating the bad from the good. So of course each to his own but I suggest you do the work like the rest of us and get on Seeking and invest some time.

[Gfefan]

Thanks for the story. Redflags learning.

I had one in France. Pretty similar but definitely not on drugs.

Moroccan and super hot. Gosh, I'd love to fuck her. When we have those super fuckables is when we let our judgement slip. I lost 200 EUR that day but she kept at me. That was a learning experience and since then. I can proudly say "Not a single penny wasted. In fact. I continue to have epic fucks at 300 EUR in Europe".

We all learn and grow in this trade. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the post man. Yes, for some reason I don't post much or talk in length about my good stories (I guess because they seem normal) but bad ones like this I remember and type every detail. Steve got a longggg message about the other bad one. With the other one it wasn't anything like this. We had met before and met again on a destination vacay and and she was just cold after the first night the next 2 nights and no more sex.

SA is amazing (even more so abroad) and can make some great relationships / arrangements / friendships whether they be ongoing or just once. Just don't ignore red flags. I did and it was dumb. She was just so damn beautiful and I was in a funk and she was waving red flags everywhere and I'm driving to see her like I'm Ray Charles. My only excuse is the biggest red flags didn't come until I was getting close to there. Still should have just turned around and figured it would be a fail.

[BlueMoon22]

So I just want to give a shout out to Blue Moon for posting his harrowing epic. It is of course a good warning to all of us that red flags are red for a reason! But I also know about his successes. Which have been legendary. He doesn't post much but he is slaying some serious pussy both locally and abroad on SA. So don't take his post to be indicative of the SA scene. You can't bat 1000 forever!

Thanks for the post man. Yes, for some reason I don't post much or talk in length about my good stories (I guess because they seem normal) but bad ones like this I remember and type every detail. Steve got a longggg message about the other bad one. With the other one it wasn't anything like this. We had met before and met again on a destination vacay and and she was just cold after the first night the next 2 nights and no more sex.

SA is amazing (even more so abroad) and can make some great relationships / arrangements / friendships whether they be ongoing or just once. Just don't ignore red flags. I did and it was dumb. She was just so damn beautiful and I was in a funk and she was waving red flags everywhere and I'm driving to see her like I'm Ray Charles. My only excuse is the biggest red flags didn't come until I was getting close to there. Still should have just turned around and figured it would be a fail.

[Steve 9696]

So I just want to give a shout out to Blue Moon for posting his harrowing epic. It is of course a good warning to all of us that red flags are red for a reason! But I also know about his successes. Which have been legendary. He doesn't post much but he is slaying some serious pussy both locally and abroad on SA. So don't take his post to be indicative of the SA scene. You can't bat 1000 forever!

[Steve 9696]

Hello brethren, if there are any leads for Valencia and Seville in Spain then kindly DM me, many thanks.

I'd prefer someone who is white and without tan.

I know we all differ culturally and some countries have this practice of passing around girls like they are poker chips or something. They are not. Most of the guys on this Seeking thread are after real girls with connection. And at the very least have done a shit ton of work separating the bad from the good. So of course each to his own but I suggest you do the work like the rest of us and get on Seeking and invest some time.

[BlueMoon22]

I didn't answer when she asked for money for groceries but opened the message and 30 or so min later she messaged me again and I let it sit for 20-30 minutes and opened it and she said "Babe?" so I just deleted / blocker her on SA and Snap. Nothing good was going to come from her still contacting me or me stringing it along I don't think. Shitty situation and didn't know what to do other than delete her.

[BlueMoon22]

I read every word of your report. Many guys will relate. Something similar has happened to all of us. We will all waste some time and money doing what we do.

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Yeah I've been lucky I guess and never had a date flake on me like that. And this morning messaging me and asking for money for groceries and says please and sends a heart.

[BlueMoon22]

Man that's a crazy time. Uneventful yet somehow riveting story.

You know, you got to have the bad times to contrast the good ones. It makes the good ones worth it. Like you got to have a bad steak to appreciate a good one.

She sounded like she was on drugs from her insistences, repetitiveness, and intense focus on odd things. Fwiw when with a crazy girl, you're better off cutting bait. You don't know what crazy girls are capable of and you don't really want to find out. I fear for baseless accusations, stalking, threats, etc. I have a girl I banged in London who keeps messaging me and I'm afraid to not respond because I think she'll go off the rails. It can be scary.

I worry about this too now even though we never did anything. She messaged me this morning and asked if I could send her money for groceries today. I am not sure if I should block her on snap and SA or what?

[AmericanPi]

Well I had a good run of not having any bad experiences on SA other than a chick I fell for and we were kind of a thing for awhile which was more relationship than SA and I still got laid the last time we were together at least…..
Good luck friends.

Man that's a crazy time. Uneventful yet somehow riveting story.

You know, you got to have the bad times to contrast the good ones. It makes the good ones worth it. Like you got to have a bad steak to appreciate a good one.

She sounded like she was on drugs from her insistences, repetitiveness, and intense focus on odd things. Fwiw when with a crazy girl, you're better off cutting bait. You don't know what crazy girls are capable of and you don't really want to find out. I fear for baseless accusations, stalking, threats, etc. I have a girl I banged in London who keeps messaging me and I'm afraid to not respond because I think she'll go off the rails. It can be scary.

[Midwestern]

I read every word of your report. Many guys will relate. Something similar has happened to all of us. We will all waste some time and money doing what we do.

Well I had a good run of not having any bad experiences on SA other than a chick I fell for and we were kind of a thing for awhile which was more relationship than SA and I still got laid the last time we were together at least.

To start off I found this chick a couple months ago and

TBH I am still a bit shell shocked and bummed about it

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[Bhamsookh1]

Hello brethren, if there are any leads for Valencia and Seville in Spain then kindly DM me, many thanks.

I'd prefer someone who is white and without tan.

[Bhamsookh1]

Hello brethren, if there are any leads for Valencia and Seville in Spain then kindly DM me, many thanks.

I'd prefer someone who is white and without tan.

[BlueMoon22]

My sildenafil rx ran out so asked the doc for a tadalafil / cialis one instead. Doc said I could try but I only got 8 pills. Is that because it's just a trial? My sildenafil was 20 or 30 20 MG pills but I guess if you're taking 3 at a time for 60 MG it's about the same (8-10 total).

I prefer viagra. Not sure why. I have both and have used both. If you know when it's going to go down 1000% prefer viagra. If it's going to be a few days and you aren't sure when it might happen then cialis is a better choice. I take 75 MG viagra when I take it. Don't need it but makes second round easy without much rebound time at all. 5 MG cialis doesn't do a lot for me. 7. 5 is ok. Haven't tried 10.

[BlueMoon22]

Well I had a good run of not having any bad experiences on SA other than a chick I fell for and we were kind of a thing for awhile which was more relationship than SA and I still got laid the last time we were together at least.

To start off I found this chick a couple months ago and we chatted a bit on SA and then moved to snap. Absolutely smoking hot. Damn near a dime piece. Only problem is we would talk on snap off and on but she always wanted to sell pics and I was like no I want to meet and she was like sure we can but then would disappear. I had 4 other SA chicks I've seen between when we talked at first and tonight. My college chick has been too busy to meet the last week and said "maybe" next week so decided to pursue this chick again. Same shit last night and today we chatted some and "hey want to buy some pics" I say maybe but I'd rather just see you. So I just cut the BS and say I'm going to be out of town unless you want to meet then I will stay around and she says she is free today or tomorrow. She says 300 to meetup or 500 for intimacy and she specifies 1 hour (I'm usually not cool with this for SA but I'm horny and she's smoking fucking hot early 20's. I know I will probably get scolded for this but she was down for BB / CIP / MSOG (even tho it was strictly 1 hour I knew I could get off two with her BB). She later ups her asking to 600 and I don't really care at this point it's just whatever if I get to BB and CIP with her and my other chicks failing me or that time of the month.

We are about 2. 5 hours apart so we discussed meeting somewhere in the middle and decide on somewhere that's more like me driving 3/4 to her. I tell her tomorrow is probably better but she pushes for today / tonight so I rush around and get some things done to get ready to go and book a room at a casino hotel and tell her (figure I will play some cards after since it's only an hour meet). She confirms the address with me and I tell her I will let her know when I'm an hour out so she can take off and we arrive around the same time. She says ok that is good and asks me if they have a paring garage as her car has been broken into before and its the number 1 most stolen car in her area and I tell her it is fine and they have valet if she would feel more comfortable with that but I'm not messing with and not worried about and my car is worth a lot more than hers (I didn't tell her that of course because I'm not a dick). So a bit into the drive she is like so $500 for 1 hour right?? I say yes as that's what she said earlier before she briefly went to 600 but I find it odd she didn't even remember that.

Then I get even further into the drive and she asks if I want to buy the pink bodysuit she is going to wear for $50 as some guys like to buy what she wears. I tell her I don't know I never really thought about it. Next she messages me as I am about 30-40 min out or so and she says AGAIN "$500 for 1 hour right?" Then she says I want the money as soon as we get in the room and I don't do that. Ever. Never have. She then asks me to send her a picture of me right now as she thinks I am going to scam her? WTF? So I send her a snap video of me talking to her showing her the road and then send a pic of the cash I brought. She says "I thought you wanted to use venmo" and I messaged back I was going to but ran by the ATM as I figured she'd rather have cash. So at this point I am thinking she is either going to A. Take the 500 and walk out the room as soon as I give it to her or be. With LE or something and then I contemplate telling her hey I'll cashapp you 100 and we will just call it off. But my gut tells me she isn't with LE as she's tried selling me nudes for 2 months off and on and has sent me some regular pics. I message her and say hey why don't we grab a drink first and get comfortable with each other and just chat for a few minutes before. She says no I don't drink and I ask if she wants to check in with me or already be checked in. She says she will check in with me. Ok fine. At this point I'm 5-10 min ahead of her and ask if she wants me to wait for her in the parking lot or go in and wait for her to check in. She says go ahead and go in the lobby.

So I arrive and I already know this whole thing is going south at this point but fuck it I'm here. Casino parking lot is well lit. Security at every entrance and not worried about my car in the least. I am walking in and see a black car pull in and see her (99% sure it's her but keep going in as that's what she wanted) so I get in the lobby and tell her I am there. Couple minutes later she walks in and looks beautiful and a nice low cut top and we say Hello, and give a little hug and I kiss her on the forehead and we go and get checked in. At this point I am thinking well maybe it's going to work out after all. We are walking thru the hotel and it has a waterfall in the center and looks decent and she is like wow this is pretty nice. We go up the elevators and get to our floor and she is like no I think we are on the ground floor (at this point I am like wtf is she talking about its on the 4th floor and the guy at the desk told us where the elevator was and I point to the room number on the key thing and show her the numbers on the wall and say it's this way I think and she says oh yeah I guess it is.

Next we get to the room and go in. It's pitch black and cold as fuck. Finally find some lights and she is looking around and is like I always like to look around at rooms and stuff. We chat just a couple minutes but I am thinking about the clock at this point as she told me she picked up a double shift at her job and is going there right after and brought her scrubs along and will be working 16 hours. Not thinking clearly (I guess because I have a smoking hot chick in my room and think everything is cool I go ahead and get out the money and give it to her and tell her I've never done that but I don't want her to worry about and am thinking everything is good anyways). So she sits on the bed and I tell her I need to go pee and I go to pee and we keep talking a bit and I come out and she tells me she is really worried about her car and it getting broken into or stolen (I really believe this as she told me that before worrying about her car but she's obviously got something wrong with her or on drugs) but whatever I lean in and hug her and sit down on the bed with her. She keeps going on and on about her car and not feeling safe in this area (BMWs, range rovers and all kinds of other nice cars in the lot and not even all the way dark yet). At this point I am thinking wow this is really going to happen she's going to walk out the door with me and take my 500 and leave. She proceeds to say something about she's sorry she's just not comfortable and is so scared and worried about her car and it's giving her anxiety and she doesn't think she can do anything and the area is so bad she just can't get comfortable. When she is like that she can't relax or something which was basically saying she isn't having sex.

Sooooo she finally just stands up and says I'm sorry I am just so worried about my car and keeps repeating the same line over and over and I say so you don't want to do anything? She says no I just can't when I am not comfortable I just can't have anything happen to my car. I am seriously about to say if your car is stolen I will buy you another fucking car at this point as I saw what she drove in with but I am not a dick and always treat women with respect and never get mad with them. She wasn't feeling it that's fine.

Plot twist for all of those reading I know everyone is thinking she is walking out with the money and I do too. She says I just am not comfortable this area isn't safe. Do you want your money back? I will give your money back if you want. I just say I really just wanted to have some fun with you is what I wanted and she says I know and repeats the same old shit. She asks me about 5 different times if I want my money back and says she would be glad to give it to me (but not digging it out of purse yet) and we can meet again in another city that I forget the name of. So she finally asks me again and I say yes I want it back. I said I want to help you (needs rent money, car payment just the usual shit you hear). So she gets it out and says she had 92 dollars in her wallet before and she starts trying to count it and kept coming up with 492 and I said no I gave you 500. I got 400 from ATM and counted it when I left there and had another 100 I tossed in with the 20's. She counts it 3 times and I see her fucking it up but don't want her to feel stupid and I say let me count it. I count out 592 and say here is your 92 you kept counting of by 100. So I pocket my money and we both stand up and she says some stuff and starts to leave and I say hey are you going to wait for me so we can walk out together I need to put on my shoes and she waits and we walk out together and I'm like let me walk with you in the parking lot so you are safe (8 pm with security everywhere so my comment was dripping with sarcasm) and we walk to her car. Hug, say glad we got to meet even though it was short and I show her the way out and say we might need our room key to get out so you can follow me out if you want. I point to my car and say that's my car just follow me and I will tell them you are with me. 🤣.

So I get down the road a bit and message her and tell her sorry it didn't work out and I wish I would have picked a nicer area (it was fine for a 1 hour fuck or overnight for that matter it was a casino) and I wanted to help her with that money but didn't know what to do. She tells me of course she wanted the money because she is broke right now but she was uncomfortable. Which is fair I suppose because I was super uncomfortable too because of her sketchiness but after we got to the room and all seemed well I was fine and ready to fuck. Then she asks me if I mind sending the $100 (referring to the 100 I talked about on the way there when I was going to just cancel I guess) and at this point I'm just like whatever she could have walked out of the room with my 500 and I couldn't have done a damn thing and she gave it back. I know she didn't want to give it back as many times as she said I can give you your money back and wanted me to just tell her to keep it. So I tell her sure if she sends me some good nudes I will do it. 🤣129315;129315; She sent me like 5 pics rapid fire before I even sent her money. I sent her 100 and she said thank you and she was sorry. Told her I'd still like to see her again somewhere else if she wanted to another time and she said yes she would. No fucking way I'll go see her again though.

Told her after she sent the pics that I was even more disappointed how it turned out because of how hot she is and she said "thank you! I wanted to do it, I just didn't feel comfortable, I'm broke so I should have done it but I don't know" and her rent is 1500 in a couple days and her car payment too but she didn't feel comfortable. Just BSing with her I said should we try again tomorrow? And she said she is working tomorrow. I said oh yeah you are working a double starting tonight so you will be ready to sleep when you get off tomorrow I am sure (caught her in a lie a bit) and she just said "yeah".

Cliffs notes? Usually go with your gut instinct. Or if you see numerous giant red flags waving just say fuck it and turn around no matter how hot she is and how horny you are. 😂.

Side note I am glad I stopped by the ATM because had I cashapped her the money when we got in the room I guarantee that shit wasn't coming back or most likely not coming back.

TBH I am still a bit shell shocked and bummed about it. I am 99% it wasn't anything to do with me but it hurts my ego some thinking it could have been me. I am a decent looking guy and I think one member here who has seen me would agree I'm a decent looking guy (no gay) and I was nothing but polite to her. The biggest problem with this whole situation was we never really had any dialogue or meaningful convos before this spur of the moment meet. Shouldn't have mattered but the messages after I booked the room and while I was on the drive there should have been discussed beforehand. Thats why I am pretty sure it wasn't me as there was some tension 45 minutes before we met about money (her thinking I was scamming her), her worrying about her car before we ever met and always blowing of me saying I wanted to meet her until today. She admitted in the room meetings always sketch her out (maybe looking in the wrong place for extra money then) and one guy she met had his tags expired on his car for a year and that really was weird to her and made her think he was sketchy.

Wasted about $300 between hotel and what I sent her and was annoyed enough didn't even go to the casino just said fuck it and drove home and ranting to my friends here.

We were in the room prob 15-20 min and in that time explaining worrying about getting her car back she could have gave me a BJ or let me CIP and she could have got back to her car. Oh well. A bit confused and bummed. Sorry for the long post. Oddly enough my two worst experiences are the ones I write the most about for some reason. The good shit I rarely even post about or talk about. Good luck friends.

[AluHut]

I was only going to take one 5 MG. But was wondering if the qty I got (8) was normal or not. If I took a few a week I'd need a refill pretty fast.

I live in EU, we don't have refills, but rather standard packs of drugs. One drug that I take daily is sold in 100 or even 200 tablet packs. The biggest option I've seen for viagra / cialis is 24 tablets for generic. For original 10-12, and it starts with just 4. So I guess that's sorta the norm, they probably assume that "old guys" fuck once a month or something. And 5mg exists in larger packs because it's used for hypertension treatment and you take it daily, further reaffirming this.