Seeking Arrangements

[MiamiBoy1]

Meh. When I look at Budapest SA it's slim pickings. I understand from this site, the Buda page, but it's really down for being a place you can bang literal porn stars.

You guys don't realize that it's not that a particular city or country sucks in terms of the talent. It's just SA is not popular or well known in some places. Take Rio or SP, for example. Both cities have plenty of hot girls, but SA sucks there. MED or BOG have 10 x more pickings on SA. You need to find another way, or another application, to find girls. Any capital city in Eastern Europe has plenty of talent!

[LshRoomer]

I looked up Prague and Vienna also. Limited selection on SA. I just fear I'm going to show up hoping one of the 10 girls actually on there are looking. I like places like London that have 500 active girls and you're 99 pct sure you're going to bag serious hotness.

Maybe there's another platform for this besides SA? In Eastern Europe? Anyone know?

Prague and Vienna are awesome. However, from an SA perspective, I agree that it's slim pickings. There are girls, but nothing compared to Spain and London. Prague has an established monger culture, with the apartment girls, outcall massages, sauna, and Showpark, plus the outcall scene. So, the local culture may require a different approach.

I have snatched up an apartment girl in the past and ended up having multiple SA type outings including overnights (not at her advertised rates either, SA rates). This is also one of the only places where I've found the escorts are a bit more personal (you will def hear the opposite as well, some of the Bohemians are quite cold), meaning invitations to birthday parties, Merry Christmas texts, random "can we hang out tonight" texts. Whenever I responded to those texts, we would go out all night, with drinks and food on me, then banged her at the end of the night, no cash handed over (ukrainian girl; I was having lots of positive experiences with Ukrainian girls. I exclusively sought them out for a time. Hahaha) . She usually didn't stay over. I figured that she wanted to feel like a regular girl on a date sometimes, instead of the standard escort life. IDK.

I experienced the same with an SA girl there. After our initial date, she reached out quite a bit to hang out, sometimes just to netflix and chill. If she initiated coming over / staying in, I might put 50/100 euro in her pocket. (Aussie girl).

It seemed like the sex workers were willing converts, which is interesting because they make less money going the SA route. However, if there is charm and attraction, it can definitely work. Just putting it out there, my experience is limited to 3 converts (1 apt girl (czech), 2 escorts (ukrainian. Would have been nice if they knew each other)), so not sure how widespread this is. I also tried with a stripper, and she was interested. I got her contact, but didn't pull the trigger; she wanted too much money. I ended up just drinking with her and she put me on to the local scene and pretty much corroborated what I had read in the forum.

Give it a shot. And avoid the strip clubs and the street girls!

02.

[Intelligencium]

That was a great report, Intelligencium, and I like the way you handled the newbie.

I always hate it when guys make comments like you way overpaid because it is your money and if you had a good time and feel like you got good value for it, that is all that matters. That said, if you fell for a Columbiana (and I get why), and are able to go to Bogota, you will find similar women for a 1/3 to 1/2 what you paid on seeking / SA. I am informing not judging.

And if you do not care for the heat, you will like Bogota. Highs are high 60's, low 70's and low in mid 50's year round.

Thanks Elvis! Other than maybe one girl on this trip, I did not feel like I overpaid. I understand that I need to think about my fellow mongers, but this was also a once in a lifetime thing for me, so I did not try to penny pinch.

Thanks for the suggestion about Bogota. May be I will get another opportunity and go to Colombia soon.

I agree with prior poster. Your reports are great.

Can I give one piece of advice? Start earlier. Your dates starting at 10 or midnight don't leave much time for repeat bangs and also to course correct if needed. If things go badly and you end at 1 am the night is done. If you start with dinner at 7 or 8, and you choose your hotel location right, you usually have your dick in her mouth by about 10. Then you're set up for a long night worth the investment.

Also good to hear you're doing 300 in Madrid. When I was there I was offering 500. Didn't know I could do 3.

Thanks AmericanPi! I completely agree that I should have started these dates earlier, but unfortunately I was working remotely (from my room) until about 10 pm, so other than Saturday or Sunday nights, I had to setup these dates after 10 pm.

Regarding madrid prices, I got quoted 300-1200, so clearly the spread is high. For Monica and Rachael, I would have been fine paying 400, but luckily they both agreed to 300.

[Intelligencium]

This is Part 4 of my "Dating Tour", or the new name from Part 3: "The tour with 30 fucks".

Part 1 is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2842652.

Part 2 is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844638.

Part 3 is here (Steve's fav): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844961.

After finishing Madrid on a high, I flew into Barcelona next afternoon. Flying in Spain is interesting. The airports are new and swanky, but the crowd is a bit crazy. So if you are from US, learn to stand in line / queue earlier than usual. And sometimes, be prepared to cut the line.

Days 1-2

I had been talking to a girl in Barcelona for a few months that I really liked, lets call her Naz. Naz is Brazilian, 35, but looked much younger (I would have guessed 27), had a good body, beautiful face, beautiful smile and most importantly spoke very good English! She showed a lot of interest in me. She was eager to meet me, so much so that I got a little annoyed, since she kept asking me when I am coming again and again. But she was my top girl in BCN, so I kept the fire alive on chat and few video chats. She wanted 400 PPM, and I asked for 300, but we didn't discuss it further. We kept on flirting / sexting for a long time, including she sending me my first ever nude. Body was 10/10, overall she was a good 9/10. Side note: I was the first guy she was meeting from SA, and she shut down her account after a while because guys kept making her feel "like a scort".

So when I landed in BCN and checked into my hotel, I asked her to meet me there. We went out for lunch, some romantic touristy spot in the evening and a rooftop bar at night. By the time we got to my hotel room, the suppressed sexual energy was too much to control. Without saying a word, we dimmed the light and got into the bed together. This was a PERFECT girlfriend experience! We made love like long lost lovers, who had been in a long distance relationship and met after many months. I can describe the sex, but frankly the highlight for me was the connection. The way we looked at each other. The way we kissed like we had never kissed before. The way we wanted to keep touching each others naked bodies all night long. We probably did it 2-3 times in an hour or so. Then ordered food to the room, ate, brushed our teeth, got ready to sleep, but ended up doing it again a few more times. Her sex drive was like no other girl I had ever met. In her own words "I have a problem". Oh I remember those words so well, because she said them while moaning because I was fingering her clit / vagina while biting her nipples (she asked me to).

She left early in the morning because she has a cat at home, and we met around noon for brunch. Did one more touristy thing in the afternoon, she went back to her place to pack a bag for staying at my room, then we came back to the room, fucked a bit, then got ready and went for dinner. During dinner, I learned that she has never been to a strip club before. I asked if she wanted to go, she said yes, so we went to a couple to find "the right one", where she felt comfortable. I offered her to get a lap dance, but she was just happy seeing a strip show. I had done a lot of strip clubs back in US, so I was not interested in lap dances, and frankly the US clubs are better anyways. Went back the room around 1 am, fucked till 3-4 am and don't remember when we fell asleep.

These two days have been AMAZING. I think I am falling for her. She and I have a lot to talk given that we are close in age and she speaks English so well. She has been quite open-minded so far and have given me great company, great sex (with my 2nd CIM ever) and so far we've had great chemistry in and out of bed. I came into this "tour" to try dating as many girls as possible (and that's still there somewhere in the back of my mind), but I am rethinking that plan given our great chemistry so far. We started making plans such that she can join me in rest of the travel. I want to go to Amsterdam and try some mushrooms, and she agreed to "babysit" me.

Day 3 - My first threesome

Next day things get more interesting and a bit crazy.

So, while chatting with her over telegram and also in person, she asked me if I had ever had a threesome. I told her no and that I wouldn't mind trying one. She told me she has had some a while back, and she wouldn't mind trying again either (2 girls and 1 guy). So I started pinging some girls in my SA shortlist who I thought may be into it * Few of them said yes, and I showed their pic to her. She teases me (oh, you really want this. Haha), but finally "approves" one girl. Let's call her Laura. Laura wants her photos too, so I get Naz to send me some photos to send Laura. So far so good. I am a bit anxious since I have never done a threesome before, so I ask Naz what to expect (since she has experience). She says, don't worry, everything just flows naturally. I am not happy with the answer, so I ask again in a couple of hours if there is something I should know or do in a specific way. She says don't worry, we will have fun. She did want me to make up a story so that Laura doesn't think Naz is on SA. So we come up with a story that Naz is my ex-GF and we met again recently and are trying something fun. From the very beginning, Naz has been a bit uneasy about SA, so I figured that's OK. She also says? To behave? * I ask her what that means. She says, just don? T make me feel disrespected.

I don't remember what we did for the rest of the day, but Laura couldn't come earlier, so we called her late at night to the rooftop bar. Laura is 20 and an absolute stunner. She is local, from Spain (Andalusia), into Tattoos and gaming, so when the three of us meet, we don't have much to talk about. But we manage a drink, then a tequila shot and decide to go to the room. Laura asked for 350 over chat, and not wanting to ruin the perfect setup so far, I had agreed.

Once in the room, Laura wants the money upfront, which I didn't fuss over. Afterall it is the two of us vs just her. She washes up, I put on some "sensual music" and we all look at each other. Naz is sitting on the bed, I am standing at one edge of the bed and Laura is standing at one of the other edges. I look at Naz, unsure what to do. She doesn't say or signal anything. I am happily drunk, so I make the first move. I go to Laura and start making out with her * After maybe 30 seconds of this, I signal to Naz to come join us. When she comes, I make out with her, then ask them to kiss each other. While they make out, I take out my clothes and start to unbutton theirs. Naz then slides back to the head of the bed. We follow her. Laura and Naz continue making out, while I start licking Naz's pussy (I learned in the last two days that she loves that). Then Naz is sucking on Laura's tits, while I keep sucking on her pussy. After a minute, Naz gently pushes me to lie down on my back, while she starts sucking my dick and Laura comes back to french me on my mouth. I remember that Naz likes to go down on a woman (she had told me that), so after a bit of oral on me, I signal her to come up and signal her to go down on Laura, while I put on a condom. Picture this: Laura sitting at the head of the bed, Naz licking and sucking her pussy with her back to me and then I slowly slide my dick in Naz's pussy. When I start to pound her from the back a lot harder, Laura comes up to me and starts kissing me on my mouth again.

A few more interesting combinations happened and I finally came. So far I had not fucked Laura, so I knew I needed to keep the party going. I ask Laura to go down on Naz, while I go throw the used condom. Watching the girl on girl show, I stroke my dick to get it back to a fuckable hardness level. Watching me try this, Laura signals me to come up to her and then I am standing on the bed, with her mouth on my dick and Naz is again fucking her pussy with her mouth. When the dick is ready, Laura signals me to fuck her, Naz happily steps aside ** and I go missionary on Laura, kissing her yummy lips, sucking her perky breasts while fucking her tight (and I mean TIGHT) pussy. I cum in a few minutes (At this point, I felt like I had had the best 40-50 minutes of my life (I don't remember how long it took). But I don't want the party to end, so I tell the girls let's take a break. Naz gets up and drinks some water. Laura is sitting on the bed and in no hurry to go anywhere. I am lying on the bed a little distance from Laura. After a min or so, I also get up to get some water, offer water to Laura and then get back on the bed closer to her. She still doesn? T seem to be in any hurry to go. So I called Naz, "Naz, come back here". Naz calls me to come to her. I stupidly tease her "come on, see Laura is still up for more, why can? T you be like her *wink* *.

Well, apparently that was a stupid thing to say. All hell breaks loose at this point. Naz say, ?its over?. I walk upto her, and say? What? She says? I think we are done?. I am confused, and thinking that Naz thinks Laura wants to go. So I say, ?No, lets do more?. Then I start to see some anger in her eyes. She (Naz) starts dressing up and says I am leaving. I now understand the seriousness of the situation (looks like I messed up somewhere along the way). I ask her not to leave, lets talk, but she is determined. I finally convince her not to leave completely, she says she will wait in the hotel lobby if I want to talk. And she leaves. At this point, I am alone with a hot naked 20 year old who looks like she is still ready to fuck me (she hasn? T move from her bed yet). I have to make a split second decision. If I ignore Naz and take a few minutes to fuck Laura once more, Naz will likely get madder aaannddddd I don't know what will happen.

I decide to? Do the right thing?, ask Laura to get dressed and leave. I apologize to her about this, she says it's okay and leaves. I get dressed after she leaves and go down to talk to Naz. She is upset about how I?behaved? During this whole time, that I disrespected her. At this point I feel like I am in a relationship and my girlfriend is upset at me. I kinda try to calm her down, say I am sorry etc etc. We finally go to my room. We try to talk about it, then try to ignore it, but then the topic comes back again, she gets angry and finally says? Its best if I leave?. So she leaves and I am finally alone in the room wondering WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK happened. How did my graph of fun go from the THERE to HERE. I am damn tired, so after checking up on Naz to see if she reached home, I doze off.

P.S. : Part 5 and 6 upcoming. If you want hint to what I did wrong, look at the places I have marked * above. Also, maybe guess?

[Mono Sin Luz]

Tinder would probably work much better, in Russia or Ukraine it works wonders.

So in your experience it would be better to use Tinder than SA in Russia / Ukraine?

Not sure how is it to travel to those destinations these days, but I'm guessing this conflict will end someday in our lifetime.

Anyway, are the Russian's on Tinder pros that charge money, or you just meet random Russians and hook up?

[AmericanPi]

Why the obsession with Eastern Europe. Doubt your going to exceed Madrid or London. Just the thirst for something new? Good news is there is high turnover. Madrid this month is completely new vs three months ago. Just go where they at!

Plus in Madrid u got Vive. I prob gonna see Smoke Show again in October. And despite her being the most beautiful girl ever I kinda wanna go to Vive and bang a random hottie! Geez. Men.

I'm fortunate in that I get to go to Europe often. But always western and Northern Europe. I've been to London, barcelona, Madrid, France, Frankfurt enough times. And I'll be going many more. I'd like to see the other side.

It's like if you come to the US but you only ever see NY Miami Chicago LA, you might get a hankering to see New Orleans or Nashville. Just to mix it up.

[MiamiBoy1]

Why the obsession with Eastern Europe. Doubt your going to exceed Madrid or London. Just the thirst for something new? Good news is there is high turnover. Madrid this month is completely new vs three months ago. Just go where they at!

Plus in Madrid u got Vive. I prob gonna see Smoke Show again in October. And despite her being the most beautiful girl ever I kinda wanna go to Vive and bang a random hottie! Geez. Men.

Because Eastern Europe is paradise if one is into white, tall, slender, blonde girls. Eastern European countries are much cheaper, the food is great, and there is a lot to see and to do. Tinder would probably work much better, in Russia or Ukraine it works wonders. And if one is into Latinas, Colombia or Mexico make much more sense than Madrid.

[Steve 9696]

I looked up Prague and Vienna also. Limited selection on SA. I just fear I'm going to show up hoping one of the 10 girls actually on there are looking. I like places like London that have 500 active girls and you're 99 pct sure you're going to bag serious hotness.

Maybe there's another platform for this besides SA? In Eastern Europe? Anyone know?

Why the obsession with Eastern Europe. Doubt your going to exceed Madrid or London. Just the thirst for something new? Good news is there is high turnover. Madrid this month is completely new vs three months ago. Just go where they at!

Plus in Madrid u got Vive. I prob gonna see Smoke Show again in October. And despite her being the most beautiful girl ever I kinda wanna go to Vive and bang a random hottie! Geez. Men.

[AmericanPi]

Prague or Vienna? I have not used SA in those cities, but I have mongered there with success. Budapest? I would think that Vienna would be a fertile hunting ground. But again, my experience was 100% limited to the straight up tutes LOL! Curious what experienced Seekers think about Prague, Vienna, and Budapest for SA action.

I looked up Prague and Vienna also. Limited selection on SA. I just fear I'm going to show up hoping one of the 10 girls actually on there are looking. I like places like London that have 500 active girls and you're 99 pct sure you're going to bag serious hotness.

Maybe there's another platform for this besides SA? In Eastern Europe? Anyone know?

[AmericanPi]

From article: "I was in complete shock," she said. "It made it seem like the only reason he would offer to pay for my drinks was that he expected something from me."

I would never ask a girl to cover a first date. But the pretended naïveté on display in this article, in more than that one quote, is a sight to behold.

Apparently women are just waking up to the fact that men take them and cover the bill hoping one day it leads to sex. Might be cover of the NYT soon.

Anybody ever do this in the Seeking space? I know when I was on there I refused to pay any "allowance" on a first date. I would pick up drinks and dinner, but not expect anything back though if it didn't work out. After all, if I actually met someone despite all the fakes, it was always me who didn't want to hook up again LOL! Except for the one hot blondie I ended up barebacking for several months. Most of the SA girls don't have a lot of money anyway. Why most (but not all) are on there with their hands out and panties down:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/08/17/...oney-back.html

[AmericanPi]

I haven't gone as far that east but Budapest gave me decent success. It wasn't close to GFE experience I had in Spain or Netherlands but good hot chicks. And way cheaper.

Meh. When I look at Budapest SA it's slim pickings. I understand from this site, the Buda page, but it's really down for being a place you can bang literal porn stars.

[Steve 9696]

I agree with prior poster. Your reports are great.

Can I give one piece of advice? Start earlier. Your dates starting at 10 or midnight don't leave much time for repeat bangs and also to course correct if needed. If things go badly and you end at 1 am the night is done. If you start with dinner at 7 or 8, and you choose your hotel location right, you usually have your dick in her mouth by about 10. Then you're set up for a long night worth the investment.

Also good to hear you're doing 300 in Madrid. When I was there I was offering 500. Didn't know I could do 3.

You can def get 300-400 in Madrid. I got smoke show for 400 and she is literally a perfect ten. Most beautiful girl on planet earth. I say this with confidence since I see her wake up no make up and smoke any model or actres you can name. And had another Madrid girl a little thicker at 300. Def shouldn't need to go to 5 Pi as I know you know how to put in the work.

[The Cane]

Anybody ever do this in the Seeking space? I know when I was on there I refused to pay any "allowance" on a first date. I would pick up drinks and dinner, but not expect anything back though if it didn't work out. After all, if I actually met someone despite all the fakes, it was always me who didn't want to hook up again LOL! Except for the one hot blondie I ended up barebacking for several months. Most of the SA girls don't have a lot of money anyway. Why most (but not all) are on there with their hands out and panties down:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/08/17/...oney-back.html

[Gfefan]

I haven't gone as far that east but Budapest gave me decent success. It wasn't close to GFE experience I had in Spain or Netherlands but good hot chicks. And way cheaper.

What up all. I've Seeked in most of Western Europe. Great experiences in UK, Madrid, Barcelona, Portugal, France.

I'm looking to go a little further east this time. But when I search SA to see what's on offer the numbers just aren't there. Like when I look for 18-24 year old in London you get like 500 profiles. Do the same in Minsk, Warsaw, Tallinn, Bucharest, etc and you get like 50 hits. Which isn't enough because then only 10 are probably active profiles now.

I want to get past Western Europe. Want to try someplace fun and cheap and where there are plenty of seeking girls. Or maybe there's another way like the SA of some country is some other site.

Anyone got some tips and advice for a longtime contributor?

[The Cane]

What up all. I've Seeked in most of Western Europe. Great experiences in UK, Madrid, Barcelona, Portugal, France.

I'm looking to go a little further east this time. But when I search SA to see what's on offer the numbers just aren't there. Like when I look for 18-24 year old in London you get like 500 profiles. Do the same in Minsk, Warsaw, Tallinn, Bucharest, etc and you get like 50 hits. Which isn't enough because then only 10 are probably active profiles now.

I want to get past Western Europe. Want to try someplace fun and cheap and where there are plenty of seeking girls. Or maybe there's another way like the SA of some country is some other site.

Anyone got some tips and advice for a longtime contributor?

Prague or Vienna? I have not used SA in those cities, but I have mongered there with success. Budapest? I would think that Vienna would be a fertile hunting ground. But again, my experience was 100% limited to the straight up tutes LOL! Curious what experienced Seekers think about Prague, Vienna, and Budapest for SA action.