Seeking Arrangements

[Gfefan]

So, the first girl fell sick and a great built up chemistry went down the drain. But, we are in touch. Next tins I am in Europe, I am pretty sure this one will be on my bed.

The next one is a sports girl. Super fit, super sexy. Since I am into sports, we got along great. Few days before I got into town, I asked her to book a restaurant of her choice and she didn't go too fancy. A normal one with a chic vibe. Indications of a keeper.

I booked a hotel with a spa. We grab dinner, we jibe well. Enough to give me confidence to skip the bar and asked herdirectly if she wanted to get back to my place. She goes "would love to. Can't wait. I am already ready, if you know what I mean" and winked. Game on.

Reached hotel, had a rose and things started heating up. Full on make out.

I suggested we try something naughty aka go to the spa (pretty late in the day). She undressed right in front of me, got into nothing but a towel and says "let's go". I follow suit. We went to shower together and hit the sauna.

Pretty hot and we start sweating. I get turned on by sweaty bodies.

We start playing with each other. I'm fully erect, she is wet. Stroking my dick, she goes "Why don't you fuck me right here? She gets on my lap, kisses me, makes my dick rub her pussy and soon, takes me all the way in. We go at it for who knows how long, with her books in my mouth and ass in my hands.

Then, we switched to her standing against the Sauna door and I enter from behind. Being into sports, she takes it like a champ. I finish on her ass. We wipe and lay there for a while.

Then, returned to room. More rose and this time we both were naked. Seated on the same love seat. She starts playing with junior, then proceeds to give the best BBBJ I have received. Lots of BLS and look into my eyes while working the shaft. Then, she rides me reverse cow girl while I keep sipping wine. Stops, asks me to feed her some wine. Then, goes back to work.

At some point, I lift her up, toss her in bed, and started fucking her like no tomorrow. Pretty hard fuck I must say and finish inside her. She said she loves the warmth of it.

More rose, more fuck, more positions including the work table in the hotel. This time she says she wants to swallow. And asks me to not finish soon. I obliged alerting her when I am close. Diligently gets on knees, looks at my eyes, and starts sucking. I finished in a few minutes, feeling her throat. Swallowed it all like a champ. Showered, drank more and slept.

5 am junior has morning wood. I climbed on her, she wakes up slowly, feels my dick and says "please put it inside. Right now! Session done and we go back to sleep.

Woke up at 9, fucked again. Then, went for a sumptuous breakfast. Came back, took a nap, fucked again at 2 pm. Eventually, dropped her off at her flat at 4 pm. She called me upstairs for a coffee. Introduced me to her friend who is equally hot and dropped a hint of potential threesome.

Fabulous trip. Europe rocks.

[MaxLee88]

It used to be that if I bought a girl something in addition to the $ gift I would consider this part of payment and try to minimize it. But somewhere along the way, with girls I've met more than once I transitioned to thinking of her like a GF. That is the $$ cover the age / looks gap but after that she's your GF and I would surely buy shit for my GF all the time.

So like with Smoke Show we did some shopping. She's not high maintenance. Bought a few things at H&M. And some flip flops. A hat. Just stuff here and there. I guess it added up to about $300 and I could t care less. It just feels natural and proper and she was always grateful. Win all around. Def recommend you try thinking this way if you don't roll this way already. It just feels better. And honestly the illusion of BFGF is priceless.

Ps. Although I wasnt angling for it the comfort level just grew. She gave me her insta. She did BLS tonight without any asking. Just starts to feel more natural. But alas it must end. For now

I agree, going shopping with a girl who actually is treating you well, holding hands, kisses, hugs, girlfriendy behavior, taking her shopping is well worth the extra $100-200 you may spend on her. Everyone is happy and that leads to better feelings and experience for both.

[Steve 9696]

I just got back from a 6 week trip through 9 European countries. I had SA premium but I struck out for the most part. The issue was I try to find actual girls and not escorts which takes time and dedication. I was hoping city to city every 4 or 5 days so I wasn't able to build much chemistry with girls. I also wasn't going to pay prices above my budget.

London I tried meeting up with a few girls. I had one who wasn't an escort who I wanted to see but she got cold feet and then blocked me after I left London. I also was talking to a few others but they had escort vibes so I wasn't interested in paying much for them.

Next time I used SA was in Berlin. I met this girl from Poland and went out to get food with her. She was cool but we didn't have chemistry and actually split before sex. I will admit I lowballed her pretty hard but I told her my price before she came so she knew. She tried guilt tripping me into paying more, telling me other guys pay for 500 euro. I had been having sex with escorts and girls I met at the club so I was only offering her 200. After food she left, I didn't pay her anything and we didn't fuck. She was a mid tier girl looks wise.

Istanbul was the only city I met a girl. We had been barely texting each other, I was super busy with my travels that I did not dedicate time to gaming her or other SA girls. She ended up messaging me randomly on my 2nd to last day in Istanbul. I happened to be nearby her apartment in Kadikoy so we started to discuss payment. She wanted 350 but I got her down to 200 for a few hours. I told her I will give her 300 if she stays the night with me but she doesn't want to. I pushed for no condom but she said no. At this point I had been traveling for 3-4 weeks and had struck out on seeking so I just decided to meet her. I went to her place and she played some techno while we got to knew each other. Eventually we fucked on her shitty little twin size bed. We hung out a bit longer and then fucked again. She was cool but it just wasn't as nice of an experience when you spend the whole night together exploring the city.

Seeking is great but you have to dedicate time to find good girls. My trip to CDMX gave me way better seeking results and also cheaper prices with baresex!

Glad to see you were persistent but I think budget is the issue. Not going to find too many hotties going to take 200 in the western euro countries. Doing good if you get them at 300 IMO. 200 doesn't get you far.

[Clone8884]

I just got back from a 6 week trip through 9 European countries. I had SA premium but I struck out for the most part. The issue was I try to find actual girls and not escorts which takes time and dedication. I was hoping city to city every 4 or 5 days so I wasn't able to build much chemistry with girls. I also wasn't going to pay prices above my budget.

London I tried meeting up with a few girls. I had one who wasn't an escort who I wanted to see but she got cold feet and then blocked me after I left London. I also was talking to a few others but they had escort vibes so I wasn't interested in paying much for them.

Next time I used SA was in Berlin. I met this girl from Poland and went out to get food with her. She was cool but we didn't have chemistry and actually split before sex. I will admit I lowballed her pretty hard but I told her my price before she came so she knew. She tried guilt tripping me into paying more, telling me other guys pay for 500 euro. I had been having sex with escorts and girls I met at the club so I was only offering her 200. After food she left, I didn't pay her anything and we didn't fuck. She was a mid tier girl looks wise.

Istanbul was the only city I met a girl. We had been barely texting each other, I was super busy with my travels that I did not dedicate time to gaming her or other SA girls. She ended up messaging me randomly on my 2nd to last day in Istanbul. I happened to be nearby her apartment in Kadikoy so we started to discuss payment. She wanted 350 but I got her down to 200 for a few hours. I told her I will give her 300 if she stays the night with me but she doesn't want to. I pushed for no condom but she said no. At this point I had been traveling for 3-4 weeks and had struck out on seeking so I just decided to meet her. I went to her place and she played some techno while we got to knew each other. Eventually we fucked on her shitty little twin size bed. We hung out a bit longer and then fucked again. She was cool but it just wasn't as nice of an experience when you spend the whole night together exploring the city.

Seeking is great but you have to dedicate time to find good girls. My trip to CDMX gave me way better seeking results and also cheaper prices with baresex!

[Steve 9696]

I contacted dozens of escorts looking for unprotected sex and proposing 2000 $ or euro per day. All invariably declined and made clear that no money can buy unprotected sex. The West is totally condomized, not only escorts. Always had to go out of the West to find natural sex.

He said "most escorts don't attempt unprotected sex". Obviously. That's why he was surprised she did — thus bolstering the case that she's not really an escort per se.

To be clear the most likely place to find it in the US is on seeking. I’ve had a least ten girls go for it without a word of discussion. These are non pros that are typically early twenties.

[XViking]

But most escorts... attempt unprotected sex without previous discussion...

I contacted dozens of escorts looking for unprotected sex and proposing 2000 $ or euro per day. All invariably declined and made clear that no money can buy unprotected sex. The West is totally condomized, not only escorts. Always had to go out of the West to find natural sex.

[LshRoomer]

This report might be a bit long, as I gave a bit of detail regarding the scene in Lisboa. Without further ado.

My missions as of late have been mainly to Spain, but Portugal has been in my sights for some time, so I've gone twice to explore.

My process is simple - Cover the bases (entire process in itself), buy the tix, reactivate my SA account, and start the search. The search is the most interesting part, as you never know which girl will bite, and further, which one will end up sitting across from you many moons from then, with a drink in her hand while you imagine what her sexual energy is like, in between smiles and amiable conversation. Haha.

The search began in Lisbon, as that was going to be my first stop before going to Madrid. I immediately found that the portuguese girls have a bit of a different approach to SA, and it's more straightforward than other places where I've used SA. There are the "immediate meet" girls, the "after 2 days" girls, and the "not respond for a week" girls (that then want to accelerate the process. LOL). There are many paid date girls, some escorts, and fewer true SBs. I differentiate paid dates from escorts in that paid date girls seem to have normal lives (jobs, school, etc), and don't negotiate time limits or services; in my experience they usually suggest meeting after work, but would happily hang out longer on a Friday or Saturday. I would actually characterize them as SBs that get right to the point.

A few bites in SA morphed into chatting on Telegram / Whatsapp. About 3 reliable girls were pulled out of the pool. I only had one day, so I narrowed it down to 2 girls and put out feelers for the night. The comms were slower than I'the like, so I figured I'the have primary and backup. It was approaching 9 or 10 and the comms were coming in asking where to meet. Primary girl said she was down and asked where I wanted to meet. I told her the place and she went silent for about 2 hours (she fell asleep, we chatted later, but it was too late, tried to make it up to me, but I was out of town by then). In the meantime, I kept the stream alive with backup and she mentioned that she was ready to meet. By this time, I'm at a restaurant, it's about 11 and the food is amazing. My edible is taking effect and I'm chatting with both girls simultaneously. I confused backup with primary and agreed to meet. When I referenced my tracking doc (you will need one if you talk to a lot of chicks and only see numbers in your phone LOL), I realize that I just told backup to meet me, and that it was primary apologizing (work the next day).

During our texting, backup wrote that she is an escort and that she needs me to pay 200 euro as soon as we meet. This was an immediate turn off. Escorts posing as SA girls are not my cup of tea. My response wasn't harsh, but it was direct. It stated simply that she must not understand how this works; the exchange is after, never before and if clocks or timing is involved, then I'm not the right person for you. Now I'm in escort mode. So, tell me if you kiss and do CIF. I figured that was the end of that story. Oh well, grab a few more drinks and either call it a night or call a proper escort. She wrote back apologizing and said she would be happy to meet and yes, kisses of course, and she asked what CIF was. I sent her the google page for it and she laughed and said yes we can try. LOL. LOL. . I almost spit out my beer at the bar when I read that.

Looking at her pics, I wasn't sure what to make of her. In some pics, she looked old, but in others young and attractive. Which one was going to show up? LOL. She paid for her uber and asked if I could reimburse her for the Uber; I agreed. The place where I was having a beer was closing so I decided to take a walk in the neighborhood and find another bar. Found one and she met me there. When she walked up, I beheld a thin, 5'6" brazilian (thought she was portuguese) with blonde highlights and easily a 7 or 8 by my standards. She greeted with smiles, a hug, a kiss on the cheek, and prolonged touching after the hug. We had a drink or two and then started our mission to find something to do. At about midnight on Sunday, many places were closed in this part of the city, so we ubered to my place.

She got comfortable as soon as we walked in. As we shared beer and champagne, easily an hour or two breezed by. By this time, she disclosed that she has 3 jobs (nail salon, maid, and what she calls an escort), has a kid, is from Sao Paulo, and her real name (unsolicited). Very surprised how much info she volunteered. Again, very unescortlike. Vibes were good and strong and sex appeal was oozing out of her.

We shared a prolonged stare after a laugh, which caused me to walk over to her, mount her (of course not putting all my weight on her), and start kissing. The first thing she did was grab me in a bear hug and thrust her torso into mine, like she wanted full body contact. While grabbing a handful of hair, I pulled her head back to kiss her neck and this seemed to really turn her on. She started biting my lip and squeezing her nails into me almost immediately. Pulling her up to her feet by her hair while kissing her, she followed as if we had choreographed this sequence. LOL. We did the backward walk to the bedroom where the makeout session continued. She disrobed during the process. Without prompting, she dropped to her knees for a BBBJ and it was actually quite nice. As I pulled her up to lay her on the bed, I was surprised at what a nice ass she had (during doggy later, the view was even better). Her clothes were loose so I didn't notice at first. I always DATY, if even for 5 sec, just to make sure there are no obvious red flags or telling odors. She was clean as a whistle and dripping wet. While going from kisses to tits, to DATY and back, she was getting more and more turned on; almost rolling over from her back to her stomach as I played with her clit. At one point, she grabbed both my wrists to pull me in, and angled her hips upward to line things up, which caused me to change my angle to avoid penetration. Hahaha It seemed her thought was penetration, while mine was shield and armor hahaha. She actually pouted when I reached for the cover and had a disappointed face. Started in mish and switched a few positions and she was quite audible. I have only banged 3 brazilians but I have noticed that each one I've banged has been quite sensitive and vocal with regard to their pleasure. Just my experience. We stopped for a few and just kissed. She then got on top and rode me like I haven't seen before. She obviously knew what angle she liked because it was more of a slow to fast grind than an up and down, or back and forth motion. She obviously found exactly what works for her. LOL. After she got tired, I rolled her over and finished in modified mish (more like her on her side so I could see and touch that nice ass), followed by more making out. This was one of the more passionate sessions I've had. Definitely worthy of a repeat!

I gave her 200 plus 40 for the Uber (uber was actually about 22 euro). She left around 430 with kisses at the door. I'm not saying that she's not an escort. But most escorts don't give personal info, attempt unprotected sex without previous discussion, or start an outing without a defined time limit. I'll hit her up next time I'm in town, if she is still around.

Over the next few days, there were about 10-20 new messages / texts / telegrams from other Lisbon girls chomping at the bit. If I had more time, I would definitely have more reports. LOL.

Not sure when I'll be in Europe again. My next mission is to explore more of Asia. I literally just read Steve's report on Bangkok and it is perfectly timed, as I just started planning a trip to Singapore / Malaysia / Thailand. Having thoughts of my ex korean GF, I've been having more of a taste for asian lately (of course I still love the slim euro girls. OMG. Do I hahah) Any suggestions are appreciated as always.

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[Steve 9696]

It used to be that if I bought a girl something in addition to the $ gift I would consider this part of payment and try to minimize it. But somewhere along the way, with girls I've met more than once I transitioned to thinking of her like a GF. That is the $$ cover the age / looks gap but after that she's your GF and I would surely buy shit for my GF all the time.

So like with Smoke Show we did some shopping. She's not high maintenance. Bought a few things at H&M. And some flip flops. A hat. Just stuff here and there. I guess it added up to about $300 and I could t care less. It just feels natural and proper and she was always grateful. Win all around. Def recommend you try thinking this way if you don't roll this way already. It just feels better. And honestly the illusion of BFGF is priceless.

Ps. Although I wasn’t angling for it the comfort level just grew. She gave me her insta. She did BLS tonight without any asking. Just starts to feel more natural. But alas it must end. For now…

[Steve 9696]

The sex got much better with some adjustments to her BJ. And we introduced her vibrator. We started with just masturbating each other while staring deep into each others eyes. This was so intimate and a whole nuther level.

You guys prob know this but the vibrator is the secret weapon no matter how good you are. We vibed with my dick in her mouth and that got the party started. Then vibed in doggie with her grabbing headboard. She dug that. Best is vibing in the Steve position. Yet another advantage of that position. She was really enjoying that and def got off in a loud face scrunching way she had not before. Oi oi oi OI! 😜.

The whole thing was just more comfortable, better for both. Now I am in def repeat mode, whereas I was on the fence before. And yes as Elvis says like a fire I can just stare at her forever. Amazing.

[Elvis 2008]

Currently in Athens with a true ten unicorn found on Seeking. Some may know her as Smoke Show from a few months ago.

First to address the question of there is no such thing as a ten. I also used to believe this. Yet when I met her in April I thought she was a ten. Then, as the months passed I said surely she must be a 9. 5 and my mind is romanticizing her. But nope. Sitting across from her at dinner I couldn't help but stare. And I thought, what could be improved? The answer was nothing. Nothing at all. Her lips and eyes are crafted as if to describe the perfect woman. Later in bed I concluded her body is perfect in every respect as well.

And she is a truly lovely person too. On the way home from dinner she asked a homeless man if he'the like the steak leftovers she was carrying. Just out of the blue. She is a sweet soul.

The bad part is the sex was mediocre in Spain and that hadn't changed. Boo. But the optics. Wow. We will of course have more sex maybe we can improve. But mostly I intend to just enjoy life with this amazing unique creature.

Other guys have said 10's are flawless. I am not sure if such a thing exists and if so, what is the point of even talking about it?

The first 10 I ever saw was in a strip club twenty or so years ago. Somehow she got prettier every time I saw her. One time I was at the club, and she just smiled at a guy and said Hi. That guy had a GF working at the club. Later on, the GF got together with a different guy, probably promised him some pussy, and they were going to beat up the 10 for "trying to steal her BF". That is where I got my definition of where a 10 comes from. She is so beautiful that she drives both sexes crazy. The 10 was like, " if I wanted your BF, I would have him. ".

I laughed as I realized I was describing maybe the first known 10 in literature, Helena of Troy. She was the woman who had a face who launched a thousand ships right? Who says you did not learn anything in high school? LOL.

And Steve, yeah, the sex was not that great. Still I remember once when we were done, I just looked at her mesmerized. You know how you can just stare and look at a fire for hours? It was like that.

I was engaged to a woman who was close to a 10, and after we broke up, I just was determined to get as good or better again, and man it was hard. There were so many dead ends, so many crummy dates. I have been accused of saying all my women were 10's but there were maybe four to six women I met after the ex-fianc that were as pretty or prettier than her.

My current gal is the second prettiest woman I met in Colombia. I really did not have any outside interactions with the prettiest one, and truth be told, she was what you would expect from a 10, materialistic and stuck up. What was surprising was that she was slightly above average in bed.

My current gal is a different story. She had an eating disorder in her teens but now it is like when she is unhappy or stressed, she does not eat much, works out more, and looks better. When she is with me, she is happier, eats more, and looks worse. LOL. So when I met her, she looked her best.

I had noticed that with one girl with an eating disorder in college. She got the best looking guys even though she was like a 7 or 8. I think it was because she did not have the ego that other women did and wanted to please others. It seems like all the 10's have a bit of a screw loose: borderline, bipolar, narcissist, histronic, OCD. For me, eating disorder and ADD have been the least toxic of all the mental issues. If you want a 10, you are going to have to put up with some shit.

So yeah, the first time we were together, people went nuts like I described: horns honking, guys screaming, walking into a restaurant and everyone staring. I wanted to say, "Are you seeing this?" What I learned is that she was used to it, and slowly, I got used to it too.

Since we have been together, I think she has drifted down to the 9 or 9. 5 range because she has been happier. I have less angst that someone is going to try to steal her away or stalk her or whatever.

So the really hard part is not just finding a 10 bur finding one who is not stuck up and good in bed. Those are the true unicorns. And I wonder if there is really even a happy 10. Once they found the right guy and are happy, aren't they going to let their looks go a little?

[Steve 9696]

Currently in Athens with a true ten unicorn found on Seeking. Some may know her as Smoke Show from a few months ago.

First to address the question of there is no such thing as a ten. I also used to believe this. Yet when I met her in April I thought she was a ten. Then, as the months passed I said surely she must be a 9. 5 and my mind is romanticizing her. But nope. Sitting across from her at dinner I couldn't help but stare. And I thought, what could be improved? The answer was nothing. Nothing at all. Her lips and eyes are crafted as if to describe the perfect woman. Later in bed I concluded her body is perfect in every respect as well.

And she is a truly lovely person too. On the way home from dinner she asked a homeless man if he'the like the steak leftovers she was carrying. Just out of the blue. She is a sweet soul.

The bad part is the sex was mediocre in Spain and that hadn't changed. Boo. But the optics. Wow. We will of course have more sex maybe we can improve. But mostly I intend to just enjoy life with this amazing unique creature.

I guess I am writing this mostly to say that Seeking rules and it went like this:

Met a girl online on Seeking. One of thousands.

She looked like s model and was asking 1000 and I only had 400 to offer but was very polite about and she accepted, but said no overnight at that price. Ok.

She turns out to be an amazing person.

A few weeks later, Knowing her only s few hours I ask her to travel w me to Athens and she says sure.

We negotiate a very favorable rate and here we are! And she is a full on ten sleeping peacefully beside me.

How in the world?

Keep at it guys. They are out there. (Tho next time I'm taking a 7 that rocks my world in bed!)

[Steve 9696]

As some of you enjoyed the Taiwan report out. Here is Bangkok. We'll really only day 1, but as you can see it was epic. You really must go.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...angkok-Reports

It’s about midway down the page.

[LshRoomer]

There really isn't a good way to ask this question so I'm just going to ask it.

I have a date with someone on SA set. She's 19. In California that's not old enough to drink. I like to drink when I eat, and also loosens me up.

Should I be foregoing alcohol on this date so it's not like I'm the old guy who can drink?

I realize how sleazy this sounds.

I've never come across this situation exactly. I've only had one less than 21 year old, but that was in London where you can drink at 18, so no issue. However, I do think of other times and venues when I usually go and get the drinks from the bar and then bring them back to the table, which in this case would solve your problem if you don't want to risk her being carded.

Besides that I recently starting keeping champagne in the fridge for whenever someone comes to my airbnb / hotel, (escort or SA girl) and I've found that they really appreciate it and usually finish the bottle. LOL.

All in all, have your drinks and make sure to get her some too. .

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[AmericanPi]

I normally have a bottle of rose waiting in the room. That's an idea I picked up here on this board. It's a great one for all of you.

But as to your suggestion, and also the bottle of rose, that's a hard pass.

This is 2023. If god forbid she has a crazy streak, too easy for her to say this older gentleman plied this younger girl who is not legally allowed to drink with alcohol so he could take advantage of her. Nope. Maybe in 2003. Not in 2023.

She's an American young woman. She prob drinks or smokes weed w her friends all the time. Only rude move is to not get a drink for her IMO!

I don't normally date under 21 because I find they flake more often. But I've done it twice. Both times I try to just blow it past the waiter "Two glasses of Chardonnay please". Once in Philly it just sailed thru and she was so thrilled. Another time in Vegas they carded her and she couldn't produce ID so no dice. But was really no big deal. It's a no harm no foul kinda thing IMO.

[Gfefan]

Drink. Will let ya decide.

I recently had an experience in the US. We moved to chatting on phone. Some questions / answers later she blurted out her full birth date including year.

I did the math and she wasn't old enough to consent. Pulled the plug.

Watch out, please. Play safe.

There really isn't a good way to ask this question so I'm just going to ask it.

I have a date with someone on SA set. She's 19. In California that's not old enough to drink. I like to drink when I eat, and also loosens me up.

Should I be foregoing alcohol on this date so it's not like I'm the old guy who can drink?

I realize how sleazy this sounds.