Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

What's this idea. Do share.

By the way, someone on this thread once mentioned having a bottle of rose in the room. I tried it once and it worked like a charm. Now I do it every time. It does a number of things. It shows hospitality and foresight. It keeps the alcohol party going. And it gives you something to do.

Haha yeah rose in the room is my go to. Easiest way to start the party — a couple glasses of wine. Plus it makes a nice break between rounds.

As far as the other idea it's certainly not original to me. But I often "bounce" girls from dinner to another more personal venue like a rooftop bar or something. This not only extends the date (which I like) but allows you to get closer (rather than opposite sides of the table) and do some minor escalation — touching / kissing to cement the vibe. I find it very effective.

P.S. Everything I know about dating and closing the deal I learned from the Nanpa (Japanese street pickup) forum at Attraction Japan. LMR, ASD, persistence, strong frame. Etc.

[AmericanPi]

Finish dinner and decide to hit a bar (Steve, this idea of yours always. Always work). On the way, gently grab her waist. Feeling the vibe, went for a kiss. Nice engagement back. Game on.
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What's this idea. Do share.

By the way, someone on this thread once mentioned having a bottle of rose in the room. I tried it once and it worked like a charm. Now I do it every time. It does a number of things. It shows hospitality and foresight. It keeps the alcohol party going. And it gives you something to do.

[Steve 9696]

Damn guys. It's a regular fuck fest in here. Great job! I am glad to see living proof that it's out there and you just have to find it. Even in SF!

Could you share the price you got in SF without any other specifics on the girl?

On condoms. Don't bother with the 04. May as well use Skyn. You simply must try the 01 tho. Nothing else comes close if it fits. Get the large. I wouldn't trust Amazon or EBay for this seems like there could be counterfeits and this is not a place to mess around. Www.allfromjapan.com that ships real Japanese products straight from Japan. Worth the extra cost for this item.

Finally on the civvies vs SA chicks thing. You have to deprogram a bit. First. Know that man was not made to be monogamous. Not in our DNA. Period. We can stereotype polyamorous folks as odd somehow. But that is flat out wrong. Other way around. Man was built to be polyamorous so don't let someone convince you otherwise.

Second. Don't treat civvies and SA girls differently. They all deserve respect and quality time w you. But there is nothing wrong with dating (fucking) two civvies. See point one. And this nothing wrong with dating an SA girl and a civvy back to back. They are both girls and you are a polyamorous guy (as all basically are). Don't fight it. Don't worry about it. Just go forward with respect for both parties and rock on.

[Gfefan]

Recap: Traveling in US and out of 30 odd messaged, two moved text and both fizzled. Prepared for a dry tour.

Day of: Had a few 5/6's shortlisted but never reached out. Day of travel, while at airport, shot out a few messages and boarded plane. Landed. Response back from one. Seemed legit. Quickly moved to chat. No BS, no baits. Fixed dinner for evening. Back of mind, "wow. This one agreed so soon. There must be a catch". Mentally prepared to sleep alone.

Head to dinner. What looked 5/6 on pics turned out 6/7 in person. Small win.

We chat, we order food. Convo flows. She works office admin. Along the way I drop few questions and cross verify mentally what was told on text. Consistency. Check.

Finish dinner and decide to hit a bar (Steve, this idea of yours always. Always work). On the way, gently grab her waist. Feeling the vibe, went for a kiss. Nice engagement back. Game on.

We go to a bar but they were closing shortly. Grabbed a quick drink and we discuss arrangement. Then, we go to next bar, couple more drinks. Now, the hands are intertwining. Seated same side. Feel her thigh. All heating up.

We grab a bottle of wine, snacks and go to my room. On the way, my hands around her waist. Now, I let it slightly wander to the under of her breast and soon, found her nipples while in elevator.

We get in to the room. As soon as we got in, she was all over me. Within minutes, we both were down to bare minimum. And gosh. She was already soaking wet. I was surprised and she goes "I got wet the moment you plucked my nipples".

Can't wait. Slid the junior in. We went at it in multiple positions. More than an hour. She begged for me to CIP. I could feel her IUD while inside and made a split second decision to do it (worried a bit next AM but not much).

We cuddle for a while and later we go to shower. Things got frisky in shower again and we had another round right there.

Then, we slept like logs.

Next AM another 45 min session before she had to go to work.

Home run in US! It finally worked.

[GoingDumb]

First. Congrats. I knew you could find the gems. Now as to your questions.

A lot of your ability to finish prob has to do with the condom. Ribbed won't help. That's for the girl not for you. What are you using now? Of US brands I recommend Skyn as thinnest and most responsive. But the Japanese ones are even better if they fit you. The Okamoto 01 and 02 are amazing. But unfortunately even the large are tight if you are a thick guy. If you aren't as thick then high recommend. Worth every penny.

Even with good condoms it can be a struggle to finish that way. Definitely let her finish you with a BBBJ. It may take a while. Like after fucking a long time go to BBBJ to finish. She may have to put in 15 minutes or more. Make sure she does plenty of BLS as this is key to getting there. As a worst case scenario put her on BLS and get your shaft super sloppy. Her on BLS and you on hand work is pretty much a guarantee. (At least for me. I can still cum after a ten girl week w this method).

Finally on STD if you are not doing bareback fucking I wouldn't sweat it. You are not going to catch anything of consequence with a condom on and your unlikely to catch anything thru BBBJ. Many of us have been BBBJ for 20 years and nada. It's not impossible but if you are not trolling the bottom (and SA you are def not) then you have little to worry about. Get a home STD test and check every few months just to be sure. Least that's my opinion.

I used skyn regular ones. I've used okamoto 004 before but I had one break last year with an sa girl. I'll go back to trying those.

Thanks for the tip. That's basically what I did with the first diva girl I saw in London.

I'm not that worried about STDs, more concerned / guilty about seeing wgs and civvy / sa girls back to back. Especially since I'm starting to date again at home. How do you guys handle dating regular and sa?

[Steve 9696]

I should've had more faith. Both my sa dates last week in Spain were grand slams. Unfortunately I couldn't finish with either, might need some advice on that part.

The first one was a day date where we went out and then had lunch. Back at the hotel and ended up having close to 3 hours of sex. Lots of DFK and in all kinds of positions. The highlight was when she said she liked anal and I had one finger up to the knuckle in her ass and two more in her pussy with her in doggy. I'the never done anal stuff before so was a little iffy but what an experience. Jr wasn't fully cooperating when we tried to do anal sex but it was basically 3 hours non stop. Her pussy was pretty wet the whole time and she may have come a few times. I've had issues finishing before when girls use lube and wondering if ribbed condoms would help.

The second was even better because we had a better connection. Her english was better and she caught me a little off guard with her curiosity and just vibe overall. I wasn't sure what to expect because she has dyed hair and more of an alt look and I wasn't sure if I'the be into it. But when she showed up she was super cute and I was game. After dinner we went to the rooftop bar at the hotel and had a drink and chatted. Some good flirting and physical contact sitting next to each other and I was already having a good time. Back in the room she was an excellent kisser and lots of DFK as well. She really liked doing p2 p slides but wouldn't go bb. She really liked being on top and kept biting my neck which I like. The best part was letting her do some light dom on me. She also said she was into kinks and I told her I wished I lived in Spain so I could experiment with her. I think we were at it for over 2 hours but again I couldn't finish. Before she left I fingered her to finish so at least one of us came.

I didn't mind not finishing because I enjoyed spending time with both girls. The most frustrating part for me is I've had 3 excellent experiences in spain but haven't found anything like it here. Maybe I'll have to find a way to move there LOL.

I haven't usually had performance issues but the day before my dates I saw wg and finished there. Usually once a day isn't an issue though. Last weekend I saw Noleta at Diva who Steve has recommended in London and she immediately said too much wanking LOL when I couldn't finish. She was right on the money too. The times I was able to finish the girl wanked me or I wanked myself before she sucked the last bit. I just didn't expect the sa dates to be home runs so I didn't want to save it in case they were busts. I know I wanked too much the week before the trip but I thought a few days would be enough to recover. Has anyone else had this death grip issue and has it gone away? I've never had it this bad before. When I went earlier this year but hadn't wanked in a week or more I finished with 4/6 girls in 3 days.

My other question for everyone is do any of you feel bad seeing wgs and sa girls back to back? I'm not doing bb like some of you but still don't feel great about it. One of the pleasures of seeking is the girl feels like a GF vs an escort, and especially when I like them I worry about spreading something.

First. Congrats. I knew you could find the gems. Now as to your questions.

A lot of your ability to finish prob has to do with the condom. Ribbed won't help. That's for the girl not for you. What are you using now? Of US brands I recommend Skyn as thinnest and most responsive. But the Japanese ones are even better if they fit you. The Okamoto 01 and 02 are amazing. But unfortunately even the large are tight if you are a thick guy. If you aren't as thick then high recommend. Worth every penny.

Even with good condoms it can be a struggle to finish that way. Definitely let her finish you with a BBBJ. It may take a while. Like after fucking a long time go to BBBJ to finish. She may have to put in 15 minutes or more. Make sure she does plenty of BLS as this is key to getting there. As a worst case scenario put her on BLS and get your shaft super sloppy. Her on BLS and you on hand work is pretty much a guarantee. (At least for me. I can still cum after a ten girl week w this method).

Finally on STD if you are not doing bareback fucking I wouldn't sweat it. You are not going to catch anything of consequence with a condom on and your unlikely to catch anything thru BBBJ. Many of us have been BBBJ for 20 years and nada. It's not impossible but if you are not trolling the bottom (and SA you are def not) then you have little to worry about. Get a home STD test and check every few months just to be sure. Least that's my opinion.

[AmericanPi]

On your performance issue I got nothing. Last time I was able to come the first time but the second time I just could not. And I don't go for 2 hours. I go for like 10 minutes so it's a bummer when that happens. Tho other times I can go 4 firms in a date, twice at night and twice in the morning. So who knows.

On the spreading. Yeah. I think about that. I always use a condom. But they are not fool proof and really not not for HSV and HPV. Truth is I spend the week after an SA binge looking at my dick for anything.

I should've had more faith. Both my sa dates last week in Spain were grand slams. Unfortunately I couldn't finish with either, might need some advice on that part.

The first one was a day date where we went out and then had lunch. Back at the hotel and ended up having close to 3 hours of sex. Lots of DFK and in all kinds of positions. The highlight was when she said she liked anal and I had one finger up to the knuckle in her ass and two more in her pussy with her in doggy. I'the never done anal stuff before so was a little iffy but what an experience. Jr wasn't fully cooperating when we tried to do anal sex but it was basically 3 hours non stop. Her pussy was pretty wet the whole time and she may have come a few times. I've had issues finishing before when girls use lube and wondering if ribbed condoms would help.

The second was even better because we had a better connection. Her english was better and she caught me a little off guard with her curiosity and just vibe overall. I wasn't sure what to expect because she has dyed hair and more of an alt look and I wasn't sure if I'the be into it. But when she showed up she was super cute and I was game. After dinner we went to the rooftop bar at the hotel and had a drink and chatted. Some good flirting and physical contact sitting next to each other and I was already having a good time. Back in the room she was an excellent kisser and lots of DFK as well. She really liked doing p2 p slides but wouldn't go bb. She really liked being on top and kept biting my neck which I like. The best part was letting her do some light dom on me. She also said she was into kinks and I told her I wished I lived in Spain so I could experiment with her. I think we were at it for over 2 hours but again I couldn't finish. Before she left I fingered her to finish so at least one of us came.

I didn't mind not finishing because I enjoyed spending time with both girls. The most frustrating part for me is I've had 3 excellent experiences in spain but haven't found anything like it here. Maybe I'll have to find a way to move there LOL.

I haven't usually had performance issues but the day before my dates I saw wg and finished there. Usually once a day isn't an issue though. Last weekend I saw Noleta at Diva who Steve has recommended in London and she immediately said too much wanking LOL when I couldn't finish. She was right on the money too. The times I was able to finish the girl wanked me or I wanked myself before she sucked the last bit. I just didn't expect the sa dates to be home runs so I didn't want to save it in case they were busts. I know I wanked too much the week before the trip but I thought a few days would be enough to recover. Has anyone else had this death grip issue and has it gone away? I've never had it this bad before. When I went earlier this year but hadn't wanked in a week or more I finished with 4/6 girls in 3 days.

My other question for everyone is do any of you feel bad seeing wgs and sa girls back to back? I'm not doing bb like some of you but still don't feel great about it. One of the pleasures of seeking is the girl feels like a GF vs an escort, and especially when I like them I worry about spreading something.

[GoingDumb]

Spain is full of SA hotties. Just keep at it. You will crack the nut. Smoke show wanted 1000 but settled for 400. And now she's going to travel w me (fingers crossed) so just keep at it. If you are ok with a full bodied girl I can point to one in Madrid who is a nice girl and a ton of fun in the bedroom.

Ps if u dont wanna use gift, allowance is a bit nicer word than ppm. Tho in Spain it prob doesnt matter.

I should've had more faith. Both my sa dates last week in Spain were grand slams. Unfortunately I couldn't finish with either, might need some advice on that part.

The first one was a day date where we went out and then had lunch. Back at the hotel and ended up having close to 3 hours of sex. Lots of DFK and in all kinds of positions. The highlight was when she said she liked anal and I had one finger up to the knuckle in her ass and two more in her pussy with her in doggy. I'the never done anal stuff before so was a little iffy but what an experience. Jr wasn't fully cooperating when we tried to do anal sex but it was basically 3 hours non stop. Her pussy was pretty wet the whole time and she may have come a few times. I've had issues finishing before when girls use lube and wondering if ribbed condoms would help.

The second was even better because we had a better connection. Her english was better and she caught me a little off guard with her curiosity and just vibe overall. I wasn't sure what to expect because she has dyed hair and more of an alt look and I wasn't sure if I'the be into it. But when she showed up she was super cute and I was game. After dinner we went to the rooftop bar at the hotel and had a drink and chatted. Some good flirting and physical contact sitting next to each other and I was already having a good time. Back in the room she was an excellent kisser and lots of DFK as well. She really liked doing p2 p slides but wouldn't go bb. She really liked being on top and kept biting my neck which I like. The best part was letting her do some light dom on me. She also said she was into kinks and I told her I wished I lived in Spain so I could experiment with her. I think we were at it for over 2 hours but again I couldn't finish. Before she left I fingered her to finish so at least one of us came.

I didn't mind not finishing because I enjoyed spending time with both girls. The most frustrating part for me is I've had 3 excellent experiences in spain but haven't found anything like it here. Maybe I'll have to find a way to move there LOL.

I haven't usually had performance issues but the day before my dates I saw wg and finished there. Usually once a day isn't an issue though. Last weekend I saw Noleta at Diva who Steve has recommended in London and she immediately said too much wanking LOL when I couldn't finish. She was right on the money too. The times I was able to finish the girl wanked me or I wanked myself before she sucked the last bit. I just didn't expect the sa dates to be home runs so I didn't want to save it in case they were busts. I know I wanked too much the week before the trip but I thought a few days would be enough to recover. Has anyone else had this death grip issue and has it gone away? I've never had it this bad before. When I went earlier this year but hadn't wanked in a week or more I finished with 4/6 girls in 3 days.

My other question for everyone is do any of you feel bad seeing wgs and sa girls back to back? I'm not doing bb like some of you but still don't feel great about it. One of the pleasures of seeking is the girl feels like a GF vs an escort, and especially when I like them I worry about spreading something.

[Alex7J]

I do not needs 9's or 10's. 7/8's work.

I have the money, but very little time now, plus I love fucking different girls.

Life is great, killing at work and socially.

This is the PERFECT QUOTE and summary of seeking.

Cheers Mate.

Keep going.

[Steve 9696]

I recommend SA renames itself as Seeking Investors in the US.

The amount of crypto "investors" and startup "owners" among girls. Sounds like most of them come to SA than going to VFs.

I am in SFO this week. After chatting about 30,texting 2, I have none to meet and greet. Let alone take to bed.

Platinum pussies.

You know, now that I think about it even tho I've had some great successful SAs this year they have been international. Amazing scores in London, Rio, Cdmx, and Spain. My last US triumph was Shayla which is now 18 months ago. I've just been repeating with old flames in the US. So I dont really have a good read on the state of affairs and will def take your word!

[DramaFree11]

I recommend SA renames itself as Seeking Investors in the US.

The amount of crypto "investors" and startup "owners" among girls. Sounds like most of them come to SA than going to VFs.

I am in SFO this week. After chatting about 30,texting 2, I have none to meet and greet. Let alone take to bed.

Platinum pussies.

SA is not that bad. If you require Video Chats, 90% of the scams will go away.

[Gfefan]

I recommend SA renames itself as Seeking Investors in the US.

The amount of crypto "investors" and startup "owners" among girls. Sounds like most of them come to SA than going to VFs.

I am in SFO this week. After chatting about 30,texting 2, I have none to meet and greet. Let alone take to bed.

Platinum pussies.

[DramaFree11]

Hello everyone.

I have been working girl mongering and Sugar baby mongering for the last 10 years or so and I think I could tell some experiences and help someone with their questions and doubts in 3 places that I have lot of experience: Mexico (Cdmx, Guadalajara, Cancun mayan riviera, Cabos, etc), Spain (barcelona and madrid) and London. Those are the places that I usually get Sugar Babies and Escorts. Also Cuba and Panama, but I only get Escorts there in panama city, not sugar babies. (locals are not pretty for my taste).

Its great to hear your reviews of places like Sao Paulo and Medellin which for some reason I haven't visited yet. , but definitely will in the near future. Thank you for the advice.

Anyway, ill start with one story here in Cdmx:

I read in a guy in a recent post that Cdmx girls are usuallly 4's and he is right. Local cdmx girls are not pretty at all, its a shame.

The nice ones youll find there are either foreign (venezuelan colombian etc) or from other towns of Mexico (the north specially).

The best places to find pretty mexican girls are Guadalajara, Sinaloa and Monterrey. At least 7, 8 and 9's you can find there, unlike Cdmx girls who are in the ugly ranking in Mexico (the south of Mexico girls are ugly, the north ones are pretty).

Also in SA, some of the cute Cdmx girls are fake profiles who want you to deposit some money upfront before meeting, so beware of scamming.

My first review is this one:

Elena 28 yo, short, brunette, paid 200 usd, I saw her in SA, contacted her and agreed to meet at my hotel Barcelo Reforma, she is a gym regular so her body was fit, shy at first but after a while she is more relaxed and a nice overall GF experience. She told me that she and some of her friends use SA to meet guys but they are also escorts on the side (a whatsapp group with a catalogue and everything, I have the phone number if your interested). Some of the girls speak english, a little at least. Most of them are from venezuela and Colombia an Brazil, but there are also mexicans and a couple of eastern europeans.

Ill buy a membership tomorrow in order to attach pictures and have open Dms. See you later fellas.

Sorry guys, I have no problem finding hot women in CDMX and no the girls from Colombia.

Or Venz. , are not better looking, unless you are into fat asses, extremely lazy girls.

Extremely jealous or you are into fake tits. Most of the locals just laugh at Colombian / Venz. Girls and there surgical enhanced bodies.

As far as hot girls in MTY and GDL, a lot the hot ones are not accessible to foreign guys for a variety of reasons. As far the Sin. , they remind way too much of Col. / Venz. Chicks and they are usually super lazy, which reminds me too much Col. / Venz. Chicks.

CDMX is the best if you have some game, decent budget and willing to work.

I do not needs 9's or 10's. 7/8's work great. If that was my focus in life I am sure I could find 10's, but that takes a lot of time and money. I have the money, but very little time now, plus I love fucking different girls.

Life is great, killing at work and socially.

[Gfefan]

I have a trip coming up to Europe. Belgium, NL, Germany.

Have a couple girls lined up. Top choice is in Antwerp. Any suggestions on something fun to do with her?

I have a feeling one of those two will end up in my bed. Good vibes.

If that fails, of course, my regular SB in NL is not far away. She literally told me she is just waiting for my dick. And, of course, FKKs will be packed in the trip.

Sadly though, will be in SFO next week and none lined up. There was one who jived well on chat and moved to text but she went quiet in last few days. So, looks like a dry trip upcoming but excited for Europe later.

[MexicanCuban]

Hello everyone.

I have been working girl mongering and Sugar baby mongering for the last 10 years or so and I think I could tell some experiences and help someone with their questions and doubts in 3 places that I have lot of experience: Mexico (Cdmx, Guadalajara, Cancun mayan riviera, Cabos, etc), Spain (barcelona and madrid) and London. Those are the places that I usually get Sugar Babies and Escorts. Also Cuba and Panama, but I only get Escorts there in panama city, not sugar babies. (locals are not pretty for my taste).

Its great to hear your reviews of places like Sao Paulo and Medellin which for some reason I haven't visited yet. , but definitely will in the near future. Thank you for the advice.

Anyway, ill start with one story here in Cdmx:

I read in a guy in a recent post that Cdmx girls are usuallly 4's and he is right. Local cdmx girls are not pretty at all, its a shame.

The nice ones youll find there are either foreign (venezuelan colombian etc) or from other towns of Mexico (the north specially).

The best places to find pretty mexican girls are Guadalajara, Sinaloa and Monterrey. At least 7, 8 and 9's you can find there, unlike Cdmx girls who are in the ugly ranking in Mexico (the south of Mexico girls are ugly, the north ones are pretty).

Also in SA, some of the cute Cdmx girls are fake profiles who want you to deposit some money upfront before meeting, so beware of scamming.

My first review is this one:

Elena 28 yo, short, brunette, paid 200 usd, I saw her in SA, contacted her and agreed to meet at my hotel Barcelo Reforma, she is a gym regular so her body was fit, shy at first but after a while she is more relaxed and a nice overall GF experience. She told me that she and some of her friends use SA to meet guys but they are also escorts on the side (a whatsapp group with a catalogue and everything, I have the phone number if your interested). Some of the girls speak english, a little at least. Most of them are from venezuela and Colombia an Brazil, but there are also mexicans and a couple of eastern europeans.

Ill buy a membership tomorrow in order to attach pictures and have open Dms. See you later fellas.