Seeking Arrangements

[DramaFree11]

Jesus could you guys just leave it be? There is some core disagreement here. Not everyone needs to be right.

Anyone actually fuck a hottie recently?

Been struggling w SA of late to score a hottie in a large central US city. Chat chat chat. Can u send me $50 for books? Can u send me $75 for a flat tire? Fucking exhausting. Gonna keep at it till I score one!!

Yep, I am in CDMX having a great time and also being productive at work. I have 3-4 meetings today and the same tomorrow. I love SA.

Traveling back Texas 5 am Wednesday go directly to work. Work through the weekend then back to MTY.

Life is very good!!

[The Cane]

Been struggling w SA of late to score a hottie in a large central US city. Chat chat chat. Can u send me $50 for books? Can u send me $75 for a flat tire? Fucking exhausting. Gonna keep at it till I score one!!

I don't miss that BS at all! Can't wait for my next trip. Different set of questions. Like how much? OK, sounds good let's go! LOLOLOLOLOL!

[Steve 9696]

Jesus could you guys just leave it be? There is some core disagreement here. Not everyone needs to be right.

Anyone actually fuck a hottie recently? 😜.

Been struggling w SA of late to score a hottie in a large central US city. Chat chat chat. Can u send me $50 for books? Can u send me $75 for a flat tire? Fucking exhausting. Gonna keep at it till I score one!!

[The Cane]

Why do you assume the OP has no hook on his line (ie not attractive -- is that what you meant to imply)? I respect the hard work of the time equals money crowd, but some guys here have a different reality. Some already make more than enough money via passive investment income.

Do you? Why do you assume that I was trying to imply something? Because I wasn't trying to imply anything. As I said, I had an old friend (God rest his soul) who used to do that. That's what made me think about that. For him, actually catching a fish wasn't important. It was the calm solitude in deep thought that mattered most. Oh, and I'm about to become one of those guys who makes more than enough money from my passive investments that I'll no longer need to spend my time chasing dollars either. That's about to become my reality too after spending years (time) making and investing money for my clients, my firm, and myself. Hallelujah!

[NoBuglyFitches]

Sit there all day long without even a hook on the line!

Why do you assume the OP has no hook on his line (ie not attractive -- is that what you meant to imply)? He may well be successful. Besides, game and p4 p are not mutually exclusive.

I was never interested in being with average looking women and I do not think a lot of guys on here are.

OP asked about "regular girls. " I assume he meant girls who are not on Seeking and who don't do it for money. So I tried to answer the OP's question as best I could, and using my particular limited experience. DIDN'T SAY A THING TO THROW SHADE ON SUGAR OR P4 P. Kinda surprised how many folks jumped on this topic, that is properly outside the scope of this forum and their own interests.

On the other hand if your primary focus is looks, then a few top EU agencies, especially their off-the-books talent, is imo a more efficient albeit pricey way to that end.

Maybe you do have a little experience on seeking.

Yes, of course.

It takes game to close the deal with a lot of the women off the site.

I answered this already: "Even if you believe you needed or used game on your sugar date, you have no way of knowing if your game was any good. " If the OP wants to learn about game for regular girls, it makes sense to start by talking to guys who focus on that.

Yeah, you can get some lookers that way but it is just another form of payment.

Maybe his goal isn't to save money. It's to meet "regular girls," who don't sell it for money. And perhaps to have the ego boost of a hookup that didn't involve money. (And let's pretend you didn't say the bit about the pills.).

that's exactly why some people have lots of money and others don't

I don't think you have job

I respect the hard work of the time equals money crowd, but some guys here have a different reality.

Some already make more than enough money via passive investment income. Time really isn't money then -- on the contrary, the challenge is to fill all of their free time. At the opposite end of the spectrum, other guys can't realistically hope to work their way to being rich in the foreseeable future.

Why pay for eating at a 5-star restaurant? It just isn't game. Game is how you travel to different parts of the world and collect all the ingredients so you can cook for yourself.

All of your comparisons assume, incorrectly imo, that the OP's goal was to save money on sex. Stretching it, one make the analogy that game is hunting your own meat -- actually called "game"! -- instead of going to restaurants or supermarkets. To try and follow this analogy, the OP asked about hunting and many posters are out to prove that their steak house is better.

[Greyhat]

Sorry, I have been crazy busy at work. I will add a a few things to my previous reports and Elvis summary. MTY is cool, but most of the girls I am still in contact I met during Covid. After Covid MTY got a lot harder and way more expensive. The girls prices are still reasonable, but everything else is way more expensive. For a short trip, I will definitely stick with CDMX or Tijuana.

MTY is all about the long game and multiple trips, but it is just not that great anymore, hot new girls are hard to come by now. As Elvis said there is a lot of big local money in MTY now. Also, many girls parents are super strict and controlling, so many can only meet during the days and early evening, sounds crazy, but many families in MTY are old school Catholics. Both cities are very safe for foreigners.

There are some super hot girls in San Pedro, but many of those girls are not available to foreigners, for a variety of reasons. Also, lodging is up 40-60 percent now, so if you are careful in CDMX and do not blow a bunch or money at the restaurant / bars CDMX is cheaper. CDMX has so many opportunities for hot chicks, plus the city is great for walking, and food is way better in CDMX.

For me long term stick with CDMX, for a short trip go to Tijuana. Tijuana is so much for a weekend, they also have great food..

I am going to CDMX in two weeks and have been chatting with some girls on SA. What would you recommend the $$$ to pay? Do I pay in Pesos or USD?

[Toni36]

You can't always buy services of a particular woman or place, but you can always buy sex elsewhere.
I didn't say it was transactional; it just isn't game. Game is how you have sex with a woman for the first time without giving her money (and with a woman who doesn't have sex for money).

Why pay for a taxi? It just isn't game. Game is how you ride a camel for the first time without spending money.

Why pay for eating at a 5-star restaurant? It just isn't game. Game is how you travel to different parts of the world and collect all the ingredients so you can cook for yourself.

Why pay for watching the best movies in the cinemas? It just isn't game. Game is how you download movies illegally and watch them on your laptop without spending money.

Why pay for buying nice clothes? It just isn't game. Game is how you kill sheep to make wool and tailor your own clothes without spending money.

Why pay for buying a phone? It just isn't game. Game is how you use pigeons to send and receive messages without spending money.

[NoBuglyFitches]

I've been turned down in a *****house three times. ...

You can't always buy services of a particular woman or place, but you can always buy sex elsewhere.

I've had sbs bring up marriage and cry when we've broken up. The dynamic is anything but transactional if you do it right.

I didn't say it was transactional; it just isn't game. Game is how you have sex with a woman for the first time without giving her money (and with a woman who doesn't have sex for money).

Glad you were entertained. My posts may come off as arrogant, so I don't post much.

[NoBuglyFitches]

Nobodt. You are a clown, I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by arguing with everyone. .

In this case, I don't argue -- I educate. Some fragile egos with thousands of posts take don't take it well; I hope they add me to their ignore list.

How many women have you been with (with no money involved, obviously)? Is it more than 50 -- is it even more than 5? How many of those involved pickup and game: met a girl you didn't know in a public place, created attraction based on saying and doing the right things at the right time, and closed the deal preferably the same day? I suspect the answer is zero for you and many others who replied. You are not a PUA (pickup artist) and never were and that's ok.

You and others don't need to feel embarrassed about paying for it and cover it up by saying that everybody pays for it, or that it's better to pay, or that the girl would have dated you for free etc. We all purchase sex; that's what this forum is for.

Just got to understand that if you also have game, you can meet many more women, have many more options and have many different experiences. I wanted to tell the OP that time spent on learning "game / pickup" is time well spent and enjoyable, especially for a younger man, but this is obviously the wrong forum for it. I said that no one here, including me, had any relevant and current experience, and your replies proved me right.

[Elvis 2008]

There is no 'game' if we are paying LOL! PU is a lot of work. You got to go where the girls are, max out your looks and profile, be on the top of your game, and still contend with a lot of failed approaches and "I-like-you-but" dates with girls who are quite average by sugar standards. If you got a big dick, there are specialized apps for women / couples looking for that, but it's a buyer's market even there and same story -- girls are not the hottest (but they ARE horny for you).

I take it back. Maybe you do have a little experience on seeking. Thing is you are going for average to ugly women with a very low yield on time spent. I was never interested in being with average looking women and I do not think a lot of guys on here are.

Not the same "game" -- he was asking about picking up regular girls, with no money involved.

If I meet a woman at a club (or beach, or bookstore, or tinder, or feeld or whatever), we meet, fuck and never see each other again, how did I pay "indirectly"?

If you are at a club, you are buying them drinks or they are likely drunk right? That is the other part of the story about guys who do not pay for it. They do not mention the pills or powder in their pockets that they give to the women. Yeah, you can get some lookers that way but it is just another form of payment.

[Elvis 2008]

Time is not money. If it were, how much dollar value would you assign to your thousands of posts on this forum; did you donate this time-money to ISG?

Have you ever had a job? Do you work every second of it or do you have free time where you are getting paid and you can post here for fun?

The difference is that everyone can purchase sex with money, but not everyone can "purchase" sex with just their time, game, charisma etc. Put differently, you may feel that "the money I gave the woman does not count either," but there is no game here; there is nothing you can share with another guy, like OP, asking about using game to meet regular girls.

Even if you believe you needed or used game on your sugar date, you have no way of knowing if your game was any good. That's what I meant by saying there is no game when you are paying.

Yeah, I do not think you have a job or been on a seeking date. This is just the tired old game of all the seeking women are hookers. When you are saying anyone can "purchase" sex, you are under the assumption that every woman off seeking will take a buck for sex. You would know that is not true if you had been on meet and greets. It takes game to close the deal with a lot of the women off the site. DF is right. You are a pretender.

[DramaFree11]

Time is not money. If it were, how much dollar value would you assign to your thousands of posts on this forum; did you donate this time-money to ISG? It'll take me 5 minutes to write this post; I could not translate those 5 minutes into money.

Yes, I said the same thing. If you can afford to pay, and what you want is sex, purchasing it is the way to go.

I said time on texts and dates didn't count; that's what game is that was the OP's question. Didn't say anything about expenses.

Yes, I said the same thing, word for word. To repeat, the OP was asking about game for picking up regular women.

The difference is that everyone can purchase sex with money, but not everyone can "purchase" sex with just their time, game, charisma etc. Put differently, you may feel that "the money I gave the woman does not count either," but there is no game here; there is nothing you can share with another guy, like OP, asking about using game to meet regular girls.

Even if you believe you needed or used game on your sugar date, you have no way of knowing if your game was any good. That's what I meant by saying there is no game when you are paying.

Nobodt. You are a clown, I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by arguing with everyone. If you do not understand that time is equal to money, then you have a lot to learn.

[FilthyBeaver]

I've been turned down in a *****house three times. I am particularly proud of all three occasions.

BTW, does a 200 k car make up for the fact I only wear 1 k suits? This is the most fun I've had here in a while lmao.

The difference is that everyone can purchase sex with money, but not everyone can "purchase" sex with just their time, game, charisma etc. Put differently, you may feel that "the money I gave the woman does not count either," but there is no game here; there is nothing you can share with another guy, like OP, asking about using game to meet regular girls.

[The Cane]

Time is not money. If it were, how much dollar value would you assign to your thousands of posts on this forum; did you donate this time-money to ISG? It'll take me 5 minutes to write this post; I could not translate those 5 minutes into money.

And that's exactly why some people have lots of money and others don't (and never will), among other reasons. And please remember the totality of what I said. I said that although time is money, all time spent isn't meant to be focused on making money. But you can still monetize your time nevertheless. And I can assure you I've spent plenty of time making money bro. I been fucking these tutes all around the world! So go fishing. Sit there all day long without even a hook on the line! I had an old friend who used to do that that. Because even though time is money, that doesn't mean one ought to be consumed with making money all of the time.

[NoBuglyFitches]

Because anyone who knows anything about money understands that time is money.

Time is not money. If it were, how much dollar value would you assign to your thousands of posts on this forum; did you donate this time-money to ISG? It'll take me 5 minutes to write this post; I could not translate those 5 minutes into money.

No time for wading around in knee-deep bullshit!

Yes, I said the same thing. If you can afford to pay, and what you want is sex, purchasing it is the way to go.

LOL. The $2,000 suits, the $100,000 car, the $20 drinks do not count? Since when? .

I said time on texts and dates didn't count; that's what game is that was the OP's question. Didn't say anything about expenses.

the pool of women I met on seeking blew away any I met in real life... picking up "regular women" at bars is more emotionally and financially costly than having a SB. You are going to strike out a helluva lot more

Yes, I said the same thing, word for word. To repeat, the OP was asking about game for picking up regular women.

Given your accounting method and saying the hours fishing do not count, I would counter and say if I like my job and make money at it, then the money I gave the woman does not count either.

The difference is that everyone can purchase sex with money, but not everyone can "purchase" sex with just their time, game, charisma etc. Put differently, you may feel that "the money I gave the woman does not count either," but there is no game here; there is nothing you can share with another guy, like OP, asking about using game to meet regular girls.

Even if you believe you needed or used game on your sugar date, you have no way of knowing if your game was any good. That's what I meant by saying there is no game when you are paying.