Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

Howdy all. I'm a longtime Seeker. Usually in Latin America. Got a trip coming up to Eastern Europe. But I'm flexible on where in Eastern Europe. I'the love to go where seeking is bangin. But all of the cities I poke around in have very limited options. Like when I look at Estonian or Romanian cities, girls 18-24, there are only a small handful, which means maybe a few are actually active and available. I know from a lot of experience that the best cities are the ones where there are tons of options and you can pick and choose.

Anyone know which Eastern European cities are hopping for this activity?

[MiamiBoy1]

I also have a friend who I introduced to SA and even set him up with a hottie I thought he would like. Thing is he focuses totally one one girl. I do not think he gets that for every keeper I have found I had to go on so many crummy dates like the one I described. On average, how many dates do you guys have to go on before you find a woman you want to repeat with?

I was thinking it is like for every keeper, there are 2 dates but now that I think about, it is more like 5 or even 10.

So if the goal is to find a keeper, which was always my goal, you fuck them as soon as you can because if they are lousy in the sack, you can move on from them.

I have been using SA for 3 years now, and have found 5 keepers / GF material, 1 in CDMX, 1 in Rio, 2 in MDE and 1 in Bogota. Basically, about 2 keepers per year. I never counted how many dates I have been on, but what I learned is that weeding them out prior to meeting is key. I don't want to be spending my time on the girls that are not up to my standards or the girls I don't have connection with. I try to minimize the risk by interviewing them prior (via WhatsApp), requesting photos, social media, etc. Of course, if I just want a quick fuck, or I understand she is a pro, no extensive interview is necessary, good photos / videos and a quick chat would suffice. But when searching for some short term or longer term arrangement, chemistry is crucial. Unfortunately, my stable of keepers doesn't last long, because all the good girls are snatched up quickly, I can't be physically present in all of those cities year round, and this is something that is out of my control.

[JonnySutton]

Yeah London is pricey. Like you I've seen the quality go down recently and I've stopped looking in London. My experience was that girls were mostly asking 400-600 GBP per meet but they'd normally accept 400 when I came back with my offer. In fact one girl didn't ask for anything and she was the best looking girl I've met there (a solid 9/10,28 yo). Sadly she ghosted after a few meets and I haven't found anyone as good since. I just got lucky I suppose. I think what they ask for will depend partly on whether or not they like you, for some it's not a job but rather 'dating up' as the site itself talks of. So if they find you attractive and if you're not too old then their requirements on the financial front come down a bit. But Europe offers better value I think, though there're a lot less options. You can add up all the Seeking girls in France, Spain, Italy and Germany and London would still give more options!

Long time lurker so thought I'd make an account and write a mini-report of the SA scene in London.

It seems that price has gone up lately and quality down compared to what I've been reading in this thread. Most girls I seek are asking for 500 ppm+ and not willing to budge. If I try to negotiate down, most of them simply block you. Here are some of my latest scores:

24, English, IG gym girl type 8/10. Great pair of naturals. She works an office job in a small town outside of London. Likes money and sex and she's a great girl to be around, very down to earth. She is very submissive and likes to please. She told me she likes to suck cock and she is very good at it. She gets wet very fast and it only took me a few pumps for her to reach orgasm. She likes being chocked and called a good girl. In fact, she was always asking me to call her a good girl. She is now my regular. I give her 500 per meet.

22, English rose, University student 8/10. Petite, blonde blue eyed girl. Very pretty face, little PAWG thing going on as well. Quite innocent but been in the game for a while. She's a nice girl to be around. The best moment is when her mascara runs down her face while sucking cock. She takes it deep and is very determined. Beautiful and pink pussy and it tastes great when doing RO. She is my semi regular now. I give her 500 per meet.

22, French University student 9/10. Petite, brunette and very pretty face. Great pair of naturals and tight body. She is fun to be around, we have lots in common and she likes to dress up for me. Sex is great and passionate. I gave her 500 per meet. She's now back to France for the summer break.

22, English University girl. Quite plain looking girl, your average English girl 7/10 but good body. She makes up for it in bed though. Absolute anal * and just wants to please you and likes taking cock in all of her holes. I gave her 350 per meet. Not seeing her at the moment.

This is my first year on Seeking and I'm still trying to learn how to do better at it. London has a great scene, but it's pricy compared to other countries. I don't mind paying as long as I meet an 8/10 and above. Life is short and I don't want mediocre sex with average looking women, as bad as that sounds. I have harvested over 30 phone numbers and I'm going to go through the best of them this summer.

[Midwestern]

And GD, you reminded me of a gal I flew into San Antonio. She was a medical student and personal trainer. She was tall, thin, smart, ambitious, and had a sexy CEO type voice. She was going to cure cancer and obesity because one was not enough. She was such a smart energetic person I was thinking maybe she could. So we are walking around the riverwalk, and there are sparks of love in the air. For real.

It is time to go to the hotel, and she wanted a lot at the time for our day but I thought it was worth it. Well, that changed.

When I went to kiss her, she was like, "No, I don't do that. " Then she put two condoms on me (safer that way) and gave me a BJ where I could hardly feel anything and when we went to the main event, she went into trainer mode. I am fucking her from behind and she is like, "Yes, you can do it, 1,2,3,4, keep going. " I have had worse sex, but I do not think I have been more disappointed with the sex ever in my life.

If she was as good in bed as she was outside of it, I may have married her.

Great story, I LOLed, but sorry for the bad experience.

On average, how many dates do you guys have to go on before you find a woman you want to repeat with?

I was thinking it is like for every keeper, there are 2 dates but now that I think about, it is more like 5 or even 10.

This sounds about right. When I was very active on SA for about 20 months, I probably met at least 100 gals in person, had relations with two dozen of them, and repeated with most of those that I had relations with.

[Elvis 2008]

This is why I believe people must definitely engage in pre-marital sex before tying the knot. You need to be sure that you're sexually compatible as well as compatible in other important ways as well. Forget about all of the morality bullshit and keep it practical and for real! You already have only a 50/50 chance of the marriage succeeding. Don't make the odds worse by not being sure you're sexually compatible before you say, "I do". So, here's to pre-marital sex! Ha!

Yeah, I had a friend who caught the Christian bug about no premarital sex after fucking everything that walked. His woman had slept around too but they decided for some reason not to have sex before marriage. So they are married and go at it, and I ask him how it was, and he said, "Well, we are still trying to get to know each other. " So of course that meant it was horrible. Needless to say, that marriage fell apart.

I also have a friend who I introduced to SA and even set him up with a hottie I thought he would like. Thing is he focuses totally one one girl. I do not think he gets that for every keeper I have found I had to go on so many crummy dates like the one I described. On average, how many dates do you guys have to go on before you find a woman you want to repeat with?

I was thinking it is like for every keeper, there are 2 dates but now that I think about, it is more like 5 or even 10.

So if the goal is to find a keeper, which was always my goal, you fuck them as soon as you can because if they are lousy in the sack, you can move on from them.

[GoingDumb]

SA has a feature to check history. Last logged in from country.

If a girl location says BCN but she has logged in from France or Italy, I am ok.

But, if she has logged in from US, I usually scratch and move on.

Unless I have good reasons to believe she is traveling.

Her location is listed as CA but says she's in spain. Log in shows Spain as well. We were discussing meeting in another city in spain.

[GoingDumb]

Awesome. Definitely try escalating with someone like the Paris girl and try a girl #2/#3. If Paris girl is great a second time / overnight /24 hrs after girls #2/#3, definitely try the travel. Also, it doesn't have to be the whole trip. Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

F.

Unfortunately she hasn't kept in touch on what's app and deleted her sa. The girl from bcn last time has also gone silent. The paris one was an interesting experience. She told me she was a sw when we met but it was more of a seeking vibe than a pro vibe.

[Foolish]

I also had a good experience in Paris where the girl came to meet me in Paris and then stayed over. My travel plans are unfortunately already set with hotels but it would be easy to add a flight.

Awesome. Definitely try escalating with someone like the Paris girl and try a girl #2/#3. If Paris girl is great a second time / overnight /24 hrs after girls #2/#3, definitely try the travel. Also, it doesn't have to be the whole trip. Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

F.

[Gfefan]

SA has a feature to check history. Last logged in from country.

If a girl location says BCN but she has logged in from France or Italy, I am ok.

But, if she has logged in from US, I usually scratch and move on.

Unless I have good reasons to believe she is traveling.

Hahah that's a real bummer but a great story. Seems like the consensus is too risky and hard to pull off. Another redish flag is her profile lists her location in the US, but profile text says she's in a European city. Profile doesn't seem like a scam and I'd have to imagine there's easier scams than going after guys who want to meet in Europe. I think it's more likely the meet is like Elvis' though, expensive and not worth it. I guess there's always an angle on seeking.

[GoingDumb]

Agree with other posters. Have a few thoughts: did you end up trying to do the sb thing in bcn earlier this year?

If not, I would try to go practice the methodology of the messaging / transfer over to text-whatsapp / video / first date chemistry+bedroom (IE the filter process). Have your backup p4 p options ready.

Do Steve's best-3 recruits / dates set up and you never know. My travel experience comes also with civvie girls or escorts off the book. You need to just have your instincts sharp and escalate as you go, rather than trying to go straight for extensive travel with someone you've never met.

If anything, book travel on the fly after you meet a few of them (or book somewhere less $ intensive / easy to book last minute). Having booked for 2 adults in hotels (as a default) it's easy usually to add another flight / train / etc to the mix if you have already booked everything.

Hope this makes sense, the short of it is, don't give up on the idea of SBs+travel, just get your horse before your cart. You never know, the first SB encounter may go really well and you can figure out a destination together!

F.

P.S. Elvis, that is a nightmare scenario of meeting an amazing women outside the bedroom and having a super subpar experience in the bedroom. Always a risk, regardless.

I did try seeking in bcn. I had one flake but one good one as well. I also had a good experience in Paris where the girl came to meet me in Paris and then stayed over. My travel plans are unfortunately already set with hotels but it would be easy to add a flight.

[The Cane]

Elvis, that is a nightmare scenario of meeting an amazing women outside the bedroom and having a super subpar experience in the bedroom. Always a risk, regardless.

This is why I believe people must definitely engage in pre-marital sex before tying the knot. You need to be sure that you're sexually compatible as well as compatible in other important ways as well. Forget about all of the morality bullshit and keep it practical and for real! You already have only a 50/50 chance of the marriage succeeding. Don't make the odds worse by not being sure you're sexually compatible before you say, "I do". So, here's to pre-marital sex! Ha!

[Foolish]

Does anyone have experience or advice for traveling with a sb?

Agree with other posters. Have a few thoughts: did you end up trying to do the sb thing in bcn earlier this year?

If not, I would try to go practice the methodology of the messaging / transfer over to text-whatsapp / video / first date chemistry+bedroom (IE the filter process). Have your backup p4 p options ready.

Do Steve's best-3 recruits / dates set up and you never know. My travel experience comes also with civvie girls or escorts off the book. You need to just have your instincts sharp and escalate as you go, rather than trying to go straight for extensive travel with someone you've never met.

If anything, book travel on the fly after you meet a few of them (or book somewhere less $ intensive / easy to book last minute). Having booked for 2 adults in hotels (as a default) it's easy usually to add another flight / train / etc to the mix if you have already booked everything.

Hope this makes sense, the short of it is, don't give up on the idea of SBs+travel, just get your horse before your cart. You never know, the first SB encounter may go really well and you can figure out a destination together!

F.

P.S. Elvis, that is a nightmare scenario of meeting an amazing women outside the bedroom and having a super subpar experience in the bedroom. Always a risk, regardless.

[FastMdSter]

Hahah that's a real bummer but a great story. Seems like the consensus is too risky and hard to pull off. Another redish flag is her profile lists her location in the US, but profile text says she's in a European city. Profile doesn't seem like a scam and I'd have to imagine there's easier scams than going after guys who want to meet in Europe. I think it's more likely the meet is like Elvis' though, expensive and not worth it. I guess there's always an angle on seeking.

There is no way I would take her on a trip or fly her to me if we have not spent time together in person. I would need to have spent both time outside of sex in a public setting / restaurants / shopping / tourist to observe her demeanor. If she checked the girlfriend / sex boxes then I would do that. Otherwise, are you sure you want to commit the money, time, and possibly worse outcome?

[GoingDumb]

And GD, you reminded me of a gal I flew into San Antonio. She was a medical student and personal trainer. She was tall, thin, smart, ambitious, and had a sexy CEO type voice. She was going to cure cancer and obesity because one was not enough. She was such a smart energetic person I was thinking maybe she could. So we are walking around the riverwalk, and there are sparks of love in the air. For real.

It is time to go to the hotel, and she wanted a lot at the time for our day but I thought it was worth it. Well, that changed.

When I went to kiss her, she was like, "No, I don't do that. " Then she put two condoms on me (safer that way) and gave me a BJ where I could hardly feel anything and when we went to the main event, she went into trainer mode. I am fucking her from behind and she is like, "Yes, you can do it, 1,2,3,4, keep going. " I have had worse sex, but I do not think I have been more disappointed with the sex ever in my life.

If she was as good in bed as she was outside of it, I may have married her.

Hahah that's a real bummer but a great story. Seems like the consensus is too risky and hard to pull off. Another redish flag is her profile lists her location in the US, but profile text says she's in a European city. Profile doesn't seem like a scam and I'd have to imagine there's easier scams than going after guys who want to meet in Europe. I think it's more likely the meet is like Elvis' though, expensive and not worth it. I guess there's always an angle on seeking.

[Elvis 2008]

Haven't met before. Was thinking video call to gauge it. This is my issue with seeking. I'll be in a place with good options so no need for seeking but I'm still looking LOL even though there's more risk.

And GD, you reminded me of a gal I flew into San Antonio. She was a medical student and personal trainer. She was tall, thin, smart, ambitious, and had a sexy CEO type voice. She was going to cure cancer and obesity because one was not enough. She was such a smart energetic person I was thinking maybe she could. So we are walking around the riverwalk, and there are sparks of love in the air. For real.

It is time to go to the hotel, and she wanted a lot at the time for our day but I thought it was worth it. Well, that changed.

When I went to kiss her, she was like, "No, I don't do that. " Then she put two condoms on me (safer that way) and gave me a BJ where I could hardly feel anything and when we went to the main event, she went into trainer mode. I am fucking her from behind and she is like, "Yes, you can do it, 1,2,3,4, keep going. " I have had worse sex, but I do not think I have been more disappointed with the sex ever in my life.

If she was as good in bed as she was outside of it, I may have married her.