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12-19-22 01:20 #4202
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by TedFerguson [View Original Post]
And it lasts until mid-March so I agree with Nounce you should hang there. Issue with Medellin IMO was not the looks but the character of the women, a lot of gold diggers. But as you saw, there are women who come to Medellin from other places that do not have that attitude. I met a physical therapy student there who was wife material, and yeah, the food was rarely exceptional.
You will paying much more for a sugar baby in CDMX and the rainy season in Medellin and CDMX overlap. It is a tad warmer in Medellin than CDMX but the temps in both are pretty much the same year around. What varies is the rain and cloud cover which are much higher in the fall in both.
Bogota and Sao Paulo are both great cities for women, and I still think as good as SP is for women, it is a shit hole. Rio is nicer but I never thought of it as safe. Time and again, people who had been to Brazil told me about Curtiba. There are a lot of German immigrants in Brazil, which means a lot of blondes, and they raved about the city. Unlike the mess of SP and semi-mess in Rio, it is well organized and I was told the trains run on time. I am just not sure if the mongering scene / hot women in Curtiba is big enough there but it could be. Thing is the better times to visit these Brazilian cities is when the weather in Medellin gets worse.
I thought Cartagena would be sunny year around, and I was wrong. In the fall, it rains so badly in the fall that the flooding locked my gal in for two days. And now the weather is like I always pictured it, hot and dry.
With the great cities for women, in Bogota, the issues are the altitude, pollution, and weather. Sao Paulo is the traffic, pollution, and IMO lack of things to do. Asuncion has a better climate (though it can be very hot), but the main knock on it is it boring, and it is a pain in the ass to get to. The good thing about being hard to get to though is there is not as much competition.
With Paraguay, I wish I had been more forward. It is a poor country and the women were working for peanuts. I should have been more aggressive about just talking to lay women about being a sugar baby, but I was there before I knew what one was.
You know those beer promotions and you have like a few Bud Light gals or something like that. In Paraguay, the women were so cheap to hire there would be like thirty women hawking stuff. I did not approach said women and like I said, I wish I would have.
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12-19-22 00:37 #4201
Posts: 462Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
I too do the same and to be honest it is so ingrained as habit. I know words to use, how much detail to give without creating problems for later. I have multiple profiels on my travel plans and share 'openly' details.
One technique I always, always use is to invite my life partner on every trip. So if I am planning a SB escape to a city, I will put the dates on the calendar and invite my life partner and kids in parallel to creating the itinerary with the SB. In the 20 years of doing this I've never had anyone take up the offer. The few times where I have had people join me on legitimate business trips I've made sure it wasn't that much fun.
Another habit I have is not keeping condoms after an adventure. I always toss everything and rarely will bring home hotel paraphernalia.
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12-18-22 20:34 #4200
Posts: 2672Good Points
Originally Posted by Ucgdx [View Original Post]
Haha yeah doubt we were both on cloud nine after helicopter and fucking hit capped the experience. It was def top tier. 😋.
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12-18-22 20:07 #4199
Posts: 101Plan
True. But having a plan is better than no plan.
And the Chinese saying "No war is won by the plan or without a plan".
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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12-18-22 19:41 #4198
Posts: 27Originally Posted by Luminous [View Original Post]
1) Ask what happened.
2) If no response, tell her I'm assuming she moved out, so I'm scheduling a locksmith to come change the locks.
3) If no response, come over with the locksmith.
4) Terminate the lease with a fee only after she's moved out. I don't want to get the landlord involved in the mess.
Hope I can stick to it if I get punched in the face, financially. It's not a big deal, under 2 k a month, I just don't want to be taken advantage of.
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12-18-22 16:48 #4197
Posts: 2891Originally Posted by TedFerguson [View Original Post]
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12-18-22 15:58 #4196
Posts: 6400Tyson
Originally Posted by Luminous [View Original Post]
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12-18-22 15:21 #4195
Posts: 101Breakup Fees
An option is if she stops paying, terminate the lease and pay the termination fees. Money is temporary and assuming you live in US, basic money is not hard to make.
My rule is try to not get into long term commitments, but if you do, assume the worst case scenario and don't be pissed when it happens.
A boxer doesn't get into a fight assuming he will never get punched, in fact he goes in with a plan of how to handle the punches so he is never surprised. I have been caught without a plan and paid the emotional price and dollars for it.
Originally Posted by Ucgdx [View Original Post]
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12-18-22 07:58 #4194
Posts: 272 topics: apartments and sexual response
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
The fact that you own a separate apartment where she stays for free, that's amazing! What will happen in the future when you two break up -- will you have to evict her?
I did a dumb thing with a former SB / GF this year; I signed a lease for an apartment, and we agreed that if we broke up, she would pay. But it's my name on the lease, so post-breakup now I pay and send her a bill, and then she pays me back within a week. She's been good about it so far, but I'm afraid it would get ugly if she stops paying.
On a separate note, I love that your SB was so straightforward about not getting hints and straight up telling you that she's always down for sex if you ask directly. And then I also noticed that she was super in the mood and initiated things after a few expensive and thrilling adventures. I've experienced the same -- after a really emotional experience, the girl is horny and ready.
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12-18-22 02:15 #4193
Posts: 43Making Medellin Work
Just finished my first week in Medellin and I'm comfortable to say Colombia can work for sugar dating. I did some things differently from the previous trip:
- Staying in Laureles, closer to the girls, which does indeed improve their punctuality. Laureles is more walkable and fewer of the (often shitty) American tourists who come here, although the buildings are not as well constructed than Poblado (bring earplugs).
- Focusing on quality over quantity. College girls with gym bodies, as opposed to the inexpensive, marginally employed country girls which make up much of the SA (and FB) scene here.
- Doing video calls to weed out the ones which are unsuitable for a longer-term relationship, flaky, boring, or purely interested in money. (Lots of the latter.).
In the first week this yielded a 20 year old 8. 5, part-time model with a great body, solid communication and ambition / intelligence. Brazilian asses spoil you, as I remember from my time in Argentina looking down at girls' asses and thinking "this doesn't look right". Not a problem in Colombia. Everything looks right from the back (albeit faces could improve). I could easily see this girl 3 x / week and live here in the sunshine, eating cheap but excellent food, going to bed early and not feeling an ounce of stress. *.
I find it amazing how easy it is to be happy here living on so little money. If I ever lost my job and lacked sufficient wealth, Medellin would be the top of my list. Start every day with eating out for breakfast, 90 minutes at the gym for both weights and cardio, relaxing a bit before lunch with a SB, back to my place for two rounds, and ending the day reading or video games after she leaves. I can't think of a way to improve on that right now, but open to suggestions.
I don't think I'll make it to CDMX. I'm having a hard time finding the optics I like there, even girls with acceptable bodies have me going hmm at their faces. Although the escorts from LaBoutique meet that criteria, probably an uphill battle converting those to SBs. The timezone also isn't great for giving me enough time to work out in the morning. I suspect the food will be better, weather sunnier, and perhaps more importantly, the variety of people and overall higher human development of a big city will grow me as a person more than a place like Medellin.
Now the real dilemma. Should I alternate 1 month in Brazil and 1 in Colombia throughout the year, with SBs in both locations, or should I commit to Brazil? Brazilian women have superb optics and better compatibility with my personality. The challenge is not staying more than 6 months there, which I've realized I could do by flying to Asuncion, Paraguay every other week for the work week. While a crap ton of flying (4 x2 h flights / month), this means I can spend every weekend in Brazil for 10 months a year (without overstaying visa or running into tax issues). Plus 1 month of travel for work, and 1 month of travel outside Brazil for vacation and that's a whole year. So there's the dilemma, commit to Brazilian booty (with a taste of Paraguayan) or make some time for Colombians and their sexual intensity?
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12-17-22 20:51 #4192
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
After spending the money necessary to take care of the family, I spent money on my sugar babies, but I was shocked to learn that half the money I spent on them was considered stealing from my family. In Texas, they call it fraud against the community. That my wife was sitting on her ass and not working was not considered fraud. Amazingly, she got a job the day she filed for divorce though. I know guys will not do this, but it would have been better to have divorced before seeing other women. For all the belly aching and bitching about cheating though, there is a formula that most judges at least in Texas follow. The formula is 6% goes to the lawyers, and the man and woman split things 50-50 after the lawyers get their cut. If the man is cheating, the split goes 55 to the woman and 45 to the man.
If you are the bread winner, the lawyers try to hoist both lawyer's fees on you. Nope, she pays her lawyer out of her stash not yours, and this is probably the most important fact here for guys to know. After the ex was getting a $1000 bill every time she cried to her lawyer, she was begging to negotiate.
Like everything legal, it is best if you completely take emotions and "justice" out of the equation and just focus on the financial like lawyers do, but that is easier said than done. The court is literally determining your worth as a father and person.
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12-17-22 17:20 #4191
Posts: 2672Good but Work
Originally Posted by DigLicker [View Original Post]
1 Viet mix. College girl. Unbelievably naive and she loved every minute of it. She's never had real DATY before! It was Amazing. A true crush.
2 Chinese with long blond hair. Super nice time. Dinner drinks and sex. Quality.
3 35 year old first timer. Did not work out. But would have now that I am a experienced. But I was a newbie.
4 Peruvian. Straight up pro. Pretty meh experience.
Honestly going 2. 5 for 4 in my early days was pretty good. And the Viet college girl was a life experience I'the never trade. She was just so smitten with the whole idea of a sugar date and a nice restaurant and wow I still think about her.
So I would think you could find some gems. But lots and lots of work. Good luck!
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12-17-22 04:07 #4190
Posts: 31Nyc
Hows NYC for SA? It seems like competition isn't as high for women as prostitution is illegal so men are willing to pay more, plus people also make a retarded amount of money here in NYC. Also hot profiles but not as hot as other European cities I am glancing at.
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12-17-22 02:59 #4189
Posts: 1202Don't do the crime if you can't do the time
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Many years ago, I had a friend who was mongering all the time. He was happily married and loved his kids. And so I asked him, "What if your wife finds out?" he then just asked me, "What if YOUR wife finds out?" I simply said that I was prepared for that to happen, and that we cannot do the crime unless we can do the time. " he just looked at me in shock and disbelief. He said he could NEVER lose his family, and so his wife finding out would never be a possibility. But he didn't even hide his mongering that well. He was so open about it. Anyway, he got caught. It was a huge scandal because he was always viewed as the perfect loving and caring husband and father. He also somehow lost his job too. I know someone else that lost his job after he got caught. I'm not sure why these guys lost their jobs, but I do know that they were unprepared for getting caught, and that probably played some role.
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12-17-22 02:00 #4188
Posts: 2672An Epic Trip
Been trying to decide whether to write this up or not because it probably just sounds like gloating and in some ways it is. But I love YOUR stories and live vicariously through them. I read Medellin and So Paulo and a few other forums just because I love this shit. I love reading a good field report. And who else am I going to spill my guts to besides you guys! So here goes.
To put this in context, you guys know I have coin but I got a ridiculous bonus year end so even the frugal side of me was just stomped out of existence which made it twice as fun. Plus some of these activities aren't as unaffordable as you might think. I've included prices. Of course Shayla was just in girlfriend mode so no costs there.
Of course for those just catching up Shayla is my SB from January whos become more like my girlfriend. She lives in an apt I own and the rest is just BFGF. Despite our 35 year age difference we get on like a house on fire. Just adore each other and try to spend as much time together as we can.
We flew into Miami and took an Uber to our beachside hotel because the cars we wanted don't hold luggage. LOL. So our first night we were car free. We got in around noon and had some sushi by the beach. Super good and so nice to be with my girl with no time limits! We did this once before with a mountains vacation and this even topped that.
Honestly tho our first day was def not the best of the lot. We had a fun time kicking around and walking on the beach but spent a fair amount of time figuring where we were going to get weed since it's illegal in Florida. Managed to score some finally. And had a lovely steak dinner at a high end steak house. Wagyu filet and cap ribeye. Wow. And wow on the bill too - $350. Worth it? Yea but just barely.
Oddly despite a couple advances sex never happened. This was a bit disconcerting but part of things being a bit more BFGF and not just someone I'm paying to suck my dick. But we fixed this totally the next day and beyond. Crashed like big dogs and slept in.
Got the car delivered to the hotel at 11 AM. A BMW I8 with suicide doors and all in metallic bright blue. Total head turner and great fun. Had it two days. $560 including delivery to our doorstep. Felt pretty badass. Had a nice lunch but had to keep it brief as we decided to book Parasailing at 1.
If you haven't parasailed you need to. Wow. That is something. We were up 400 feet in a tandem rig and drove right along the beach. It's pretty nerve wracking but amazing st the same time. High recommend. $300. Followed this up with Thai couples massage at 4 PM. Also high recommend on Thai massage. They really work and stretch you. Fixed a couple joint / back problems Shayla had. She was over the moon.
Can't recall exactly when but I brought up the fact that we didn't have sex day one and it was disappointing and I'the tried to initiate twice. Again now we are in BFGF land. She was really nice about it and said she didn't know I was trying to initiate and she is such a nerd she doesn't know how to handle these things but rest assured she always wants to have sex with me and just let her know and it's on.
So I made it a lot more clear when I was initiating after massage and before dinner and wow did we have some great sex. Not as good as nights two and three (stay tuned) but amazing nonetheless. Amazing dinner at an Asian fusion place by the water. $250. And a night in of smoking drinking and cuddling.
Third day we discovered the sixth floor dining and pool area. Duh why didn't we find this before! We ate breakfast at the restaurant there and it was mostly comped because she's a diamond member which was sweet. But the pool area overlooking a panoramic beach was priceless. Went to the beach first and had a glorious time. She loves the beach. Got super sandy but had fun. Then spent the remainder of the day in a poolside cabana now THAT is my style. Def king of the world.
Helicopter ride at 3:30. This was absolutely one of the best experiences of my life. Never done it before. It was epic. Just indescribable. And with my girl. Highlight of the trip. $700. Save your pennies and put this on your bucket list!
Had some amazing sex after the helicopter and I mean best so far particularly for her. She musta cum at leave five times maybe more. She literally couldn't walk after. Just a great time. Went for barbecue and the Casino after that where we lost a tidy pile of cash but she had fun. Not my fave. Great fun driving the I8 tho. Crashed hard again not even late really.
Last day was mostly poolside. Just lounging together and her in that bikini. Fuck she looks good. She pretty much initiated sex at some point when we were back in the room. Musta been morning because we checked out at 1. She straddled me on the chair and started kissing me and of course it was on after that. She dominated me a little bit from on top and I rather liked it. We got those skinny jeans off and I fingered her while we made out. Then Asian cowgirl in the chair. Wowza! After a while we moved to the bed — I literally carried her with dick in pussy and legs wrapped around like a movie or something and it totally worked! Started in mish from there obviously then Steve 2. Steve. Mish. Doggie. Cowgirl. BJ. And a couple rounds of that. Finally finished CIM in Steve 2. Once again she had multiple Os some that were mind bending. She was an absolute floppy wet dishrag after we finished. Just done for. But a smile size of Texas. And then more pool time. LOL.
So it was a packed 3. 5 days but we made it count. Epic car. Parasailing. Helicopter ride. Just a dream really. As I say I wasn't counting pennies this trip but as you see above some of these things are affordable if you save up and only do them once. I would def do both parasailing and heli again in a heartbeat. And oh have epic sex also. 😋. Thanks for tolerating my rambling. Hope some of u enjoyed it!