Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

I've started a tradition the last few years that is a win win win. I ask my top five girls what charity they want me to donate to for them and then donate 50-100 each depending on how aligned we are. It's a real win all around. The girls love it. Makes me feel good. And the charity wins too. High recommend — even if you start small with one or two girls and lower amounts. Everyone wins.

[HumbleHal]

I would guess:

- phone number: most probable.

- credit card: not likely, as families can share credit cards (you and your brother for example). And you sign up for an account before you even add a credit card.

- address: not likely, for the same reason as above.

- name plus above: not likely that sophisticated.

- IP address: not likely because if you're using SA at work (a bad idea), your IP address would be the same as anyone else at work.

So get a free TextFree burner phone number and try making a new account with that and a new email address together.

Yes, I am bad. I even got banned from Match.com and they own alot of other dating websites, so I am banned from all of theirs.

[HumbleHal]

I would guess:

- phone number: most probable.

- credit card: not likely, as families can share credit cards (you and your brother for example). And you sign up for an account before you even add a credit card.

- address: not likely, for the same reason as above.

- name plus above: not likely that sophisticated.

- IP address: not likely because if you're using SA at work (a bad idea), your IP address would be the same as anyone else at work.

So get a free TextFree burner phone number and try making a new account with that and a new email address together.

Apparently IP address does not matter. I put a different address number but same street, city and zip code for the credit card info and the charge went thru. Used a credit card that was different and put in a different first name on their pay page. Set up a Google Voice with a new, different phone number. And set up a new Google Email address. Worked this time with these changes. Thank you gentlemen!

[Steve 9696]

Even tho I am pretty good at this game I am AMAZED at where Shayla and I have gotten to. Admittedly She's a horny beast more so than any girl I've ever met. But including our little Miami trip I saw her 6 out of 7 days. And we had mad sex 5 of those six. WTF? I'm getting fucking worn out! I feel like I've been lifting in the gym. My hips and shoulders are sore!

To be fair I've been really lighting her up. I get my one or two orgasms but she's doing 5 or 6. I Am absolutely rocking her world (advantage of being old!) and so I think she's up for it so much as a result. Last couple times have been massage / lotioning her back and legs and butt and that Butt. Oh my. It's something. So I start massaging and I'm getting horny and slip a cheeky finger under to her clit and do a few circles and it's on. Slide the panties to the left. Some intense gspot fingering. Leads to BJ. Leads to unreal sex.

Going to take a bit of a breather for a few days because we've been so full on. In related news, I Even let my Seeking membership lapse. Wtf? Coming up on our year anniversary and its still epic. Never had a gf like her.

[Elvis 2008]

While I was in Asuncin a long time ago, the few hot, single women seemed to be all be already paired up with the older, affluent men. It doesn't take much for a man to be affluent in Paraguay. Some of my Paraguayan business colleagues had hotties on the side. They really didn't make a huge amount of money.

Perhaps a visitor can crack the sugar baby market, but you're always at a disadvantage to the local men if you are just looking for a one or two night stand. I think it's better to go with the numbers of hotties in larger South American cities.

You are probably right, Wyatt. I just was not doing the SB thing when I was there and wished I had given it a go. FWIW, the best Paraguayans I had were not in Paraguay.

Note: I believe Brazil and Argentina together invaded Paraguay and occupied Asuncin in the mid-1800's. Apparently, neither had any interest in annexing it. LOL.

Nah, Paraguay has unreal potential. Their politics are just fucked up. Electricity costs nothing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electr...or_in_Paraguay.

Even though it is land locked, it has a good river system for export: https://www.trade.gov/country-commer...aterway-system.

And they have more fresh water than all the great lakes combined: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarani_Aquifer.

As an American, I have wondered why we are so rich and South America so poor, and I think it is our culture and ability to think long term and reward it.

Someone, maybe it was you Wyatt, made the comment that the sugar babies who always seem to get the most money are the ones who ask for money the least and care the most about the longer term relationship.

With their soil, free water, and virtually free electricity, Paraguayans should be loaded not dirt poor.

[Gfefan]

Have never been to Curitiba but the girls are great.

I had a great chemistry with one I met in Spain. She is from Curitiba.

Sad I moved and had to let her go purely because of logistics.

I can 100% vouch for what you say about women from Curitiba. One of the most gorgeous girls I ever met in Brazil was from there. I actually met her at Scandallo, and she told me of how her family came to Brazil from Germany a couple of generations ago. She looked like she had just stepped off of the immigrant steamship herself all blonde and blue in her sexy dress. It was a memorable session that I wrote about many moons ago. It always cracks me up when guys who like white chicks balk at going to Brazil because they don't think there are enough of them there. Works for me haha!

Anyway, because of that encounter with her, I started to do some research on Curitiba. Besides, my favorite MMA fighter of all time Anderson Silva is from there LOL! I came away believing that although Curitiba appears to be a great place to live in Brazil, the mongering scene doesn't seem to be that strong compared to other Brazilian cities I have been to (Rio, Sampa, and Porto Alegre). Well, I guess you can't always have it all! Another nice city that I learned about is Vitoria. But again, I don't think the mongering action there is that strong.

It's funny how you think Sao Paulo is a "shithole" and that Rio is "nice". In my view, almost all of Rio is a shithole with only Ipa, LeBlon, and Barra being parts of it that I think are truly nice enough for me to want to live. Like a Brazilian friend told me once, Rio is crowded, stinky, and dirty. Well, I guess I would consider Botafogo, but I don't consider that neighborhood to be particularly "nice". Very middle of the road. To me most of Sampa is just a giant concrete jungle without much unique character. But not necessarily a dump either. Well everyone has their own tastes right? Let's not go there again!

[WyattEarp]

I wouldn't go back to Asuncion even for the women. So damn boring! And I'm not attracted to most of the women there who have a strong indigenous look. I did fuck a blanca there though. If one is interested in women in Paraguay one be better off in Buenos Aires. A much more dynamic city than Asuncion and full of chicas from Paraguay (I fucked a pretty, indigenous one in BA).

While I was in Asunción a long time ago, the few hot, single women seemed to be all be already paired up with the older, affluent men. It doesn't take much for a man to be affluent in Paraguay. Some of my Paraguayan business colleagues had hotties on the side. They really didn't make a huge amount of money.

Perhaps a visitor can crack the sugar baby market, but you're always at a disadvantage to the local men if you are just looking for a one or two night stand. I think it's better to go with the numbers of hotties in larger South American cities.

Note: I believe Brazil and Argentina together invaded Paraguay and occupied Asunción in the mid-1800's. Apparently, neither had any interest in annexing it. LOL.

[AsianPursuits]

Just wondering what others have done to get around their blocking. Have tried using a different email account, no work. Wondering if they keep the block on my phone number? Or my IP address? Or my credit card address, name etc. How would I get back on?

Here is something I wrote previously.

Have you been previously suspended? They have their own database of emails, names and addresses which they check against before sending to your credit card for processing. The times I have hit this wall the card operator is not seeing any traffic. So, I think you have a black mark in their database. Here is what I would do:

A) get a different email address (free gmail).

B) get a different card number.

C) Use a different street address but same Town & Postcode as your card.

Last time I had problems signing up I tried changing each of the above individually and was unsuccessful until I had all three changed. You will get very good at signing up gmail accounts.

[Ucgdx]

Just wondering what others have done to get around their blocking. Have tried using a different email account, no work. Wondering if they keep the block on my phone number? Or my IP address? Or my credit card address, name etc. How would I get back on?

I would guess:

- phone number: most probable.

- credit card: not likely, as families can share credit cards (you and your brother for example). And you sign up for an account before you even add a credit card.

- address: not likely, for the same reason as above.

- name plus above: not likely that sophisticated.

- IP address: not likely because if you're using SA at work (a bad idea), your IP address would be the same as anyone else at work.

So get a free TextFree burner phone number and try making a new account with that and a new email address together.

[The Cane]

Cane, I guess what I am trying to say is what cities would you go back to or stay in if you were not going to monger. Sao Paulo, Asuncion, and Bogota (which I may have gone to one other time after my initial visit) are cities I never would go back to except for the women.

I wouldn't go back to Asuncion even for the women. So damn boring! And I'm not attracted to most of the women there who have a strong indigenous look. I did fuck a blanca there though. If one is interested in women in Paraguay one be better off in Buenos Aires. A much more dynamic city than Asuncion and full of chicas from Paraguay (I fucked a pretty, indigenous one in BA).

[LshRoomer]

I work very hard to ensure all details are covered. If I say I am going out to dinner I make sure that place is open. I know the menu and "what I had". It's all made up. But she asks sometimes. Likewise I recently went in a trip and didn't actually go where she thinks I did. I took Shayla to Miami instead. But I had itinerary and hotel reservations for my pseudo location. Texted take off and landing at appropriate time zone adjusted times etc. It was a fuck load of work and very dicey at times! But totally worth the meticulous planning.

Good words Steve! This to me seems to be the only way to maneuver. Any other way, you either don't care, or are simply waiting for problems.

If you have chosen to explore many girls for the experience (like me), then meticulous is word of the day, and of the night, and of anytime that you are on the road and want to keep your path private.

I always think of a smooth flow. Everything should match to support your narrative. This comes down to flights, delays, hotels, travel times, checkin texts (time zone specific), take off and layovers checkins, and of course city specific souvenirs (important for when you are in be and are supposed to be in A) and even travel email approvals. It really comes down to the simple thought that if you are going to do it, do it right and don't complicate your life by being sloppy.

Use an encrypted disk image for everything! She found a pic of you banging your Colombian SB. WTF is wrong with you? It's Impossible! She would have needed 22nd century tech to break your encryption (you get the point). Just make sure the door is always closed. 2nd and last entry point is the cell. If you don't have a 2nd cell (situation dependent), then know that with an audible exhale I'm sitting here writing with a silent nod of disapproval. LOL.

But seriously, for anyone that is starting their mission on the girl enthusiast route (trying hard not to steal that saying Steve) or the explorer of girls mission, don't create complication where it doesn't have to exist; cover your bases and keep it simple.

02.

[TedFerguson]

With the great cities for women, in Bogota, the issues are the altitude, pollution, and weather. Sao Paulo is the traffic, pollution, and IMO lack of things to do. Asuncion has a better climate (though it can be very hot), but the main knock on it is it boring, and it is a pain in the ass to get to. The good thing about being hard to get to though is there is not as much competition.

I've didn't have decent sex in the 3 weeks I was in Bogota. The women were sophisticated and intelligent yes, but they had no rhythm and I had to do most of the work. Even if I found one who knew how to move eventually, the weather is a nonstarter for me.

For now, I'm sticking to Medellin because it's working and the weather is decent. Even if many of the women are gold diggers, they're less expensive overall than those in Brazil, and like you pointed out, not all of them are purely money oriented. If it doesn't work out, I'll check out Paraguay.

I suspect Paraguay will be less comfortable than Colombia. There will be fewer healthy food options even if the lodging / gyms are decent. If I look around Asuncion on Instagram, I see a lot of the thinner, more European body types I found in Buenos Aires. Nice from the front, but not much posterior development. Cheaper, better attitudes probably, but not ideal for bedroom activities.

Also, besides escorts there's not much of an online game, and I'm very much an online type of guy. Maybe I haven't found the right website for Paraguay. Or maybe now that I know both Spanish and Portuguese, I need to start approaching girls outside the online world to expand the pool of options.

[WyattEarp]

To me most of Sampa is just a giant concrete jungle without much unique character. But not necessarily a dump either.

That seems to be a fair assessment. In the past, when I have had to work for several weeks in NYC and Sao Paulo. During some of my free daytime hours, I would head to Central Park in NYC and Ibirapuera Park in SP to get myself in a green space away from the urban onslaught.

I bring up NYC because its a good comparison. I believe Manhattan is actually more densely populated than the center of SP. Similar to NYC, Sao Paulo is very cosmopolitan.

Cane, you mentioned the only nice areas in Rio are along the Southern coast (accurate). There was a silly discussion on the Rio thread in the recent past about staying in Centro so one would be close to the mongering. Yikes! If you are in Rio for leisure / mongering and even business if you have a choice of lodging, you stay in the areas you mentioned as well as Copacabana Beach and Leme Beach.

[Nounce]

...Bogota and Sao Paulo are both great cities for women, and I still think as good as SP is for women, it is a shit hole. ....

Sao Paulo is probably the most diverse city I have been to. It's a world class city when you consider the infrastructure, the park, the restaurants, night life. I can write a lot about it. But I can see why some will think it is a shit hole which is only part of it. I look at individual areas and each has it's charm.

[Elvis 2008]

It's funny how you think Sao Paulo is a "shithole" and that Rio is "nice". In my view, almost all of Rio is a shithole with only Ipa, LeBlon, and Barra being parts of it that I think are truly nice enough for me to want to live. Like a Brazilian friend told me once, Rio is crowded, stinky, and dirty. Well, I guess I would consider Botafogo, but I don't consider that neighborhood to be particularly "nice". Very middle of the road. To me most of Sampa is just a giant concrete jungle without much unique character. But not necessarily a dump either. Well everyone has their own tastes right? Let's not go there again!

Cane, I guess what I am trying to say is what cities would you go back to or stay in if you were not going to monger. Sao Paulo, Asuncion, and Bogota (which I may have gone to one other time after my initial visit) are cities I never would go back to except for the women.

There are places like CDMX, NYC, the Cancun area, and the Orlando area where you could be there a year and not see and do everything. The women are just a bonus to the fun that can be had.

Then you have the ones in the middle, and I would put Medellin, Rio, Monterrey, and Cartagena in that mix. After a few months unless you get into a routine or have the excitement of new women, those cities will get boring after a few months or a year.

Dramafree told me how great Monterrey was, and I went and quickly accumulated a stable of amazing harem of women from seeking, but I could just go there and pop in and out for three or four days and screw to my heart's content and head to my favorite places to eat and drink.

Bogota was really the first foreign city where I used seeking with success but it was a place I had to stay for a while. Like always, I was wanting to expand and improve my harem, and my plans always included seeing my regulars but looking for fresh meat. You can see all the fun stuff in Bogota IMO in a day or two IMO, so outside of the women, the city got boring to me.

The issue is which one do you go for: the boring, exciting, or semi-exciting cities. With me, I guess I sought out the best values, and those are likely to be found more in the boring cities. In my case, I wound up moving my gal from a boring city to a semi-exciting one and we vacation frequently in the exciting places. That was not my plan, but it just kind of happened that way.