Colombia / Travel Coronavirus Updates

[Ty Down]

Please only post responsible reports. Not more hyperbole. The guy in the video is misrepresenting facts. He said it was a peer reviewed study when it has actually not been accepted for peer review yet.

I like that this is an inexpensive drug. I also took this drug when I went to Africa.

Dude, Chloroquine has been peer reviewed over and over as effective against the coronavirus. NEWS FLASH - "coronavirus" has been around for a long, LONG time, same virus that causes the common cold. Nothing new here.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

[Mojo Bandit]

The State Department on Thursday issued an extraordinary advisory urging Americans not to travel overseas, to return to the United States if they can, or to otherwise shelter in place.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...el-four-137227

[Mojo Bandit]

Chloroquine 100% effective against coronavirus. Probably can buy it OTC in Colombia. Pandemic is over. I still have some from my Africa days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eInV44ujWDM

Please only post responsible reports. Not more hyperbole. The guy in the video is misrepresenting facts. He said it was a peer reviewed study when it has actually not been accepted for peer review yet. It is a study that only included 20 people actually receiving the treatment the another 16 being the control group. until more studies are done on this lets not call it Panacea. The guy in the video is saying that it is "curing"the disease when in fact it is just reducing the viral load. Not the same as "killing" the virus nor eliminating it, and the patients in the study were given other drugs to treat their symptoms.

I know people that do this for a living at big pharm (they work on anti virals) and I talked to them and they said that study looks promising but it is way too small to have clear answers. A little early to be saying " Pandemic is over".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...t-needs-study/

I like that this is an inexpensive drug. I also took this drug when I went to Africa.

[JjBee62]

I don't know if this the right section to post this, interesting that this a new thread for sure, and the guys on the Medellin thread are going at it over how Gustos's sucks which is totally nuts, who could give a shit, great place for some, nothing for others.

Anyways I have been back three days now in Southern California since getting out of the Colombia last Sunday, and now I have heard that Colombia has effectively shut down all flights in and out of the Country so I guess I am very lucky to have gotten out, or maybe not.

I have spent the last three days stocking up on supplies and with the projected 18 month Pandemic prediction yesterday, and the surges in cases, I am worried. I may even be infected for all I know as my son being in his twenty's arrived last Saturday to stay in my home and may be a virus carrier with no symptoms.

I have yet to see a single roll of toilet paper in hitting 5 stores a day at multiple hours. I could not find any flour for baking until I went to the most expensive market in town. I finally got some pasta products after being the first one after waiting in line for an hour at a Trader Joe's.

I'm mostly immune from the insanity. I'm home 38 hours per week. There's not much food in the house, but the local restaurants are still open for carryout. At home there aren't many grocery options and they are experiencing shortages.

At work I have every shopping option. Visited Trader Joe's today and they were well stocked, busy, but no lines. The only thing I saw they were out of was their Lemon Ginger Echinacea fruit drink. However, their stock was low lady week, so they may just be waiting for the next delivery.

Also stopped by a Meijer store. It's a Midwest Walmart competitor. Didn't look very busy. I was just there to use the ATM, so no idea on how well stocked. If I really need something there's a Mexican supermarket that's not busy at all.

Traffic is lighter than usual, although it's not a huge dropoff. Lots of places are closed. Restaurants with drive-thrus are keeping busy.

Things are about the same in Ontario. A bit less traffic.

[JjBee62]

Has it hit China yet? Their reported death toll is 15% of the estimated deaths in the US from the flu since October 2019. Neither you nor I know what the future holds. I don't think you and Yippiekayay have any scientific data to substantiate your dire predictions. Only the future will tell us if you are right or wrong. I prefer to be optimistic instead of an alarmist.

Before someone says the coronavirus is not the flu, I am not making a medical comparison. They are both medical conditions and are spread in almost the same manner. That is the reason I am making a numerical comparison.

But you can't make a direct numerical comparison. That makes less sense than somebody bragging about paying $300 for a girl from Gusto, because in the US that girl would cost $400.

Here's a numerical comparison for you. We'll start with the flu. It kills, worldwide about 500,000 per year. Our second disease only kills, on average, 7 people per year. Using a numerical comparison it's much better to get the second disease.

There have only been 450 known cases of primary amoebic meningoencephalitis over the past 60 years, 443 have died from it, an average of 7. 38 per year.

The point is, the numerical comparison is useless. Assuming the transmission rates are similar, the important number is the mortality rate.

[YippieKayay]

FDA approved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1MyHPmSPdg

WHO has been testing this and three other drugs since Wednesday.

[Ty Down]

FDA approved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1MyHPmSPdg

[AdventureSeekr]

Chloroquine 100% effective against coronavirus. Probably can buy it OTC in Colombia. Pandemic is over. I still have some from my Africa days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eInV44ujWDM

Wow, that's hilarious. I used to party HARD in college with Greg. We didn't stay in touch after college but that guy was a fucking party animal. Fucking wild to see him here on this video.

[AdventureSeekr]

"Expect the best, plan for the worst, and prepare to be surprised".

Couldn't have said it better. I'm done posting on this. I've spent hours on this forum posting studies, published medical journal articles, CDC and WHO data. Some people don't want to hear it. It is what it is. Each person can make up their own mind.

In line with the statement above, you have nothing to lose to be prepared and limit social interaction, the worst downside is mild inconvenience. The downside to ignoring the entire international medical community is you could die, or you could infect other people who could die. It baffles me that this is even a debate.

[Ty Down]

Chloroquine 100% effective against coronavirus. Probably can buy it OTC in Colombia. Pandemic is over. I still have some from my Africa days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eInV44ujWDM

[Nounce]

Has it hit China yet? Their reported death toll is 15% of the estimated deaths in the US from the flu since October 2019. Neither you nor I know what the future holds. I don't think you and Yippiekayay have any scientific data to substantiate your dire predictions. Only the future will tell us if you are right or wrong. I prefer to be optimistic instead of an alarmist.

Before someone says the coronavirus is not the flu, I am not making a medical comparison. They are both medical conditions and are spread in almost the same manner. That is the reason I am making a numerical comparison.

Are you comparing total number of deaths or death rate? Most deaths in China are in one region.

I prefer to be optimistic instead of an alarmist.

I think not many people will disagree with you. I also think may will agree with this more: "Expect the best, plan for the worst, and prepare to be surprised".

[Surfer500]

I don't know if this the right section to post this, interesting that this a new thread for sure, and the guys on the Medellin thread are going at it over how Gustos's sucks which is totally nuts, who could give a shit, great place for some, nothing for others.

Anyways I have been back three days now in Southern California since getting out of the Colombia last Sunday, and now I have heard that Colombia has effectively shut down all flights in and out of the Country so I guess I am very lucky to have gotten out, or maybe not.

I have spent the last three days stocking up on supplies and with the projected 18 month Pandemic prediction yesterday, and the surges in cases, I am worried. I may even be infected for all I know as my son being in his twenty's arrived last Saturday to stay in my home and may be a virus carrier with no symptoms.

I have yet to see a single roll of toilet paper in hitting 5 stores a day at multiple hours. I could not find any flour for baking until I went to the most expensive market in town. I finally got some pasta products after being the first one after waiting in line for an hour at a Trader Joe's.

Fresh products are very scarce, you have to either know the delivery schedules or just be in the right place at the right time to find stuff.

It amazes me what people are buying in the markets. Lots of people are just buying fresh stuff. The smart ones are buying dry and canned products for the long haul.

And literally nobody is wearing a mask, and when I do people stay clear of me thinking I'm sick. If I was in Asian City not wearing a mask, they would think I am sick for sure.

The news is worse and worse everyday, and with all the isolation orders and shut downs I wonder how long it's going to be when the people working in the markets and pharmacies are going to quit coming to work, let alone have money to pay the rent and utilities.

I went to Home Depot yesterday, interesting in that they had a two limit per item quota like all the stores in town on cleaning products like bleach containing products and I lucked out as none of the other supermarkets had them.

I also, after noticing a very scarce amount of fruits and vegetables in the Supermarkets, bought several live plants and seeds in the nursery. I have a sizable backyard so will be growing all kinds of stuff.

Maybe I sound crazy, and perhaps have a green thumb.

I am curious as to what others are experiencing in the USA and in Colombia in regards to the virus.

[Fun Luvr]

Maybe what Fun Luvr fails to understand is that it has yet to actually hit the USA yet, its like there is a flooding torrential rainstorm in Italy and houses are underwater, the storm is moving in our direction. There is no stopping this storm from reaching us. But so far it is only sprinkling rain and Fun Luvr sees the sprinkling and does not understand why we are stacking up sandbags and digging trenches and building dams etc -.

Has it hit China yet? Their reported death toll is 15% of the estimated deaths in the US from the flu since October 2019. Neither you nor I know what the future holds. I don't think you and Yippiekayay have any scientific data to substantiate your dire predictions. Only the future will tell us if you are right or wrong. I prefer to be optimistic instead of an alarmist.

Before someone says the coronavirus is not the flu, I am not making a medical comparison. They are both medical conditions and are spread in almost the same manner. That is the reason I am making a numerical comparison.

[YippieKayay]

Please. Have a read.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true

Right. Everyone is wrong except you. It's not that serious.

Carry on.

[Goatscrot]

Nope:

What you don't understand is the death rate in Italy as of today is over 8%. They are at almost 500 a day now. This isn't the flu. Stop saying and I quote you again: "there has been an over-reaction" THERE HASN'T.

Please. Have a read.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true