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  1. #560
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I think that other users would appreciate any details on such locals' joints, if they are that much cheaper. The dearth of reporting on establishments other than Mary's Spa was a significant obstacle to my exploration of more reasonably-priced options, along with the outside constraints on my schedule.

    What expectations would one have to lower at these locals' joints? Appearance, quality of service, or facilities? When I did my pre-trip research, I came across one report in which the guy described such an establishment as a dive like what one would see in a Quentin Tarantino movie.
    Yes, a dive is what I am speaking of. Unfortunately in Cancun there are no hidden gems. You either pay a steep touristy price (but usually get very hot girls) or you go to a locals dive on the outside of town get very low quality but pay an incredibly low price.

  2. #559
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    What destinations do you visit now? Are there any places in Mexico other than Tijuana that you would recommend?
    Check out some of the other central american countries. Not sure how adventurous you are but, check out El Salvador, or Guatemala. A less adventurous place is Panama. Take a read at those forums for info.

    You have a pretty good read on Mexico and you can figure any touristy destination within Mexico is going to have a big gringo tax and be expensive. Any border town is cheaper but quality lacks.

    If you are in the Mayan Riviera Cozumel is not bad. About half the price of Cancun but, you still get all of the amenities. Playa Del Carmen is also less than Cancun and about an hour south however, still by Central and South American standards expensive.

  3. #558
    Quote Originally Posted by Mfins  [View Original Post]
    One caveat to my previous post. There are still some local spots where you can go and have a great time and spend 75% less. However, you will need to lower your expectations.
    I think that other users would appreciate any details on such locals' joints, if they are that much cheaper. The dearth of reporting on establishments other than Mary's Spa was a significant obstacle to my exploration of more reasonably-priced options, along with the outside constraints on my schedule.

    What expectations would one have to lower at these locals' joints? Appearance, quality of service, or facilities? When I did my pre-trip research, I came across one report in which the guy described such an establishment as a dive like what one would see in a Quentin Tarantino movie.

  4. #557

    Good time.

    Going to Cancun in a few days looking for any brothels, strip clubs, massage parlors for a fair price with attractive women. PP is just to expensive for me. Willing to venture into downtown Cancun.

  5. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by Mfins  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report. Good writing. Cancun used to be my go to destination 12-15 years ago. Well over 50 trips. However, for the exact reasons you mentioned I no longer go there. The same quality of clubs and the same quality of girls were $80-$100 a session. The last time I was there which similar to yours was a vacation trip and not a mongering trip the price was $200-$250 and I couldn't believe it. Now the price is somewhere around $400. Just to enter the clubs is now $29 and at every turn someone is asking for a tip or trying to up sell. The last time I was there I was spending $1500-$2000 a night with food, drinks, taxi hotel etc, It just got to be too much and I have moved on to other destinations. Its a shame because Cancun is an awesome place. Great food, good people, lots to do and great tequila its a shame what has happened.
    What destinations do you visit now? Are there any places in Mexico other than Tijuana that you would recommend?

  6. #555

    Curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mfins  [View Original Post]
    One caveat to my previous post. There are still some local spots where you can go and have a great time and spend 75% less. However, you will need to lower your expectations.
    What are some good local spots?

  7. #554
    Quote Originally Posted by Mfins  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report. Good writing. Cancun used to be my go to destination 12-15 years ago. Well over 50 trips. However, for the exact reasons you mentioned I no longer go there. The same quality of clubs and the same quality of girls were $80-$100 a session. The last time I was there which similar to yours was a vacation trip and not a mongering trip the price was $200-$250 and I couldn't believe it. Now the price is somewhere around $400. Just to enter the clubs is now $29 and at every turn someone is asking for a tip or trying to up sell. The last time I was there I was spending $1500-$2000 a night with food, drinks, taxi hotel etc, It just got to be too much and I have moved on to other destinations. Its a shame because Cancun is an awesome place. Great food, good people, lots to do and great tequila its a shame what has happened.
    One caveat to my previous post. There are still some local spots where you can go and have a great time and spend 75% less. However, you will need to lower your expectations.

  8. #553
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    Introduction.

    I went to Cancun in March 2018 for non-mongering and non-tourist purposes but did some mongering on the side. I had low expectations for the mongering in Cancun due to the limited amount of reporting on the local scene and the generally unfavorable assessments of it, due in large part to high prices and limited options, but I believe that there are other factors at work. My generally positive experience significantly exceeded my expectations, albeit at a significant cost and with one exception that may have been partially due to a lapse in judgment on my part. Many mongers resist the notion that "you get what you pay for," or that there is often a correlation between price and quality, which I believe may have been true in this case and in many other cases (see my September 2017 trip report on Rio de Janeiro and the discussion that resulted from it). I found that Cancun does have some high-quality mongering options and talent, but they come at such a high price that Cancun is not a desirable destination for a mongering trip unless you are a high-roller or otherwise willing to pay prices comparable to those in the USA The casual monger who visits Cancun for a normal vacation and just wants a few quality sessions on the side may find Cancun more appealing. I do not have any strong desire to return, but I am nonetheless glad that I went there this one time and had this experience.

    By way of context, I was in Cancun for reasons other than my own desire to visit it, and I went on someone else's dime; that third party covered my flight, hotel, meals, and a few other expenses. The coverage of these basic expenses freed up more of my own funds for mongering; otherwise, I would not have spent nearly so much on mongering in Latin America, but I was glad that I did so in this case. I also accepted the notion that Cancun, or at least its Hotel Zone, is an Americanized or globalized enclave, rather than the "real" Mexico, and that prices would accordingly be higher. I was also on someone else's schedule and thus did not have time to scrounge around for diamonds in the rough.

    Brothels: Mary's Spa and the Pleasure Principle.

    I checked out Mary's Spa, which seemed to be the most popular option in Cancun, based on the amount of reporting on it and probably due to its reasonable prices. This brief visit turned out to be a waste of time, given the length of the cab ride downtown and then back to the Hotel Zone. There were only a few girls available at the time, and none of them struck me as appealing enough to pull the trigger. This assessment comes with the caveat that the casa business model has often yielded below-average results for me, so I am a bit more hesitant than usual when potentially selecting a chica from a casa line-up.

    My visit to the Pleasure Principle was much more successful and convenient. I am glad that I overcame my resistance to visiting this establishment, as there has been relatively little reporting on it, but the small amount of reporting that I found was highly and consistently positive. I used the chat feature on its website to arrange my free ride to and from its Hotel Zone location to view their line-up. A male manager explained their pricing system, which was not clear from previous reporting. All sessions are for 60 minutes and include the same service but different rooms with different features: the cheapest room is $300, a fancier room is $350, and the fanciest room is $400. I saw no reason to pay more for a fancier room, and the cheapest room was adequate for an hour-long session, with a shower and a sink.

    The line-up at the Pleasure Principle was much more impressive and extensive than that of Mary's Spa; the two establishments are in totally different leagues. They also timed the presentation to give me more time to inspect the merchandise thoroughly and to chat with the chicas. By the end of the line-up, I had a few candidates in mind, but the clear winner was Pamela from Argentina. I had read a positive review of her elsewhere and thus had her in mind even before seeing her in person, but I probably would have selected her anyway. She was just a bit hotter than the other chicas, in my opinion, but what sold me was the sensuality that she exuded. I have attached a few photos of Pamela to this report.

    Pamela turned out to be an excellent choice and significantly exceeded my expectations, providing a session that easily earned a spot in my Top 20 mongering experiences of all time and perhaps in the Top 10 as well. The session was nearly flawless, with CBJ as the only shortcoming that I can identify; it is evidently a house rule, which was one of the reasons for my initial reluctance to come here. CBJ would normally be a showstopper for me, but in this case it turned out to be a moot point and I hardly noticed the difference; in fact, I might have been better off that way because I might have otherwise busted my nuts prematurely she was that good with both her mouth and her pussy.

    Speaking of loads, Pamela managed to extract a remarkable three leches from me in one hour. MSOG appears to be the norm at this establishment, in contrast to the "one and done" mentality of many chicas, for whom one hour means "whenever you leche for the first time" and leave as the last drops of leche are still spurting out of your cock. More remarkably, it was actually Pamela that initiated the third round, and I almost managed to finish all three leches in the condom from fucking, rather than blowjobs, which would have been unprecedented for me. I was getting close to finishing the third leche from fucking, but she had already exhausted me and thus finished me off with her mouth instead.

    I believe that Pamela is one of those rare gems that chose this line of work because they like to fuck a lot, rather than out of financial hardship. She never made such a statement explicitly, about which I would have been skeptical, but she demonstrated it with her actions and may have revealed it inadvertently. She said that she disliked Asian clients because they only fuck for a few minutes, bust one nut, and leave. Some girls, especially in Southeast Asian destinations that North Asian mongers frequent, prefer such clients for precisely that reason ("3 minutes, 3 inches, and 3000 baht" so that they can get away with half-assed service, but Pamela's motivations appeared to be quite the opposite.

    Pamela is Argentinian but darker and less Caucasian in appearance than most Argentinians. I went to Buenos Aires last year, and I wish I had found more local chicas there with her combination of appearance and performance (I usually ended up with foreign chicas there). I did not encounter any other Argentinian chicas in Cancun (the largest numbers of foreign chicas there were from Venezuela and Colombia), and I cannot recall encountering or even hearing about Argentinian chicas working in other Latin American countries, so I am curious as to how and why she came to Cancun.

    Pamela is in excellent physical condition, with an athletic, well-toned body and a high level of cardiovascular fitness. To be honest, she did most of the work, vigorously riding my cock in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, at which she excelled, but which did not appear to tire her in any way that I could perceive. In fact, the amount of stimulation that she provided probably drained me more than her physical exertion might have tired her, if it tired her at all. Her ass was quite firm, but with just enough softness to grab pleasantly. Her fake tits were a bit firmer than I would have preferred, but still of good quality. She had one of the warmest pussies that I have felt in a long time. It may have helped to set the tone that I had begun the foreplay with some light digital stimulation of her clit, to which she was highly responsive, as well as some deeper digital penetration later on. Her blowjob style was quite intense as well, with quite a bit of head bobbing, tongue manipulation, and BLS. I have normally not been a fan of BLS, but Pamela may have converted me; she must have a tongue like that of an anteater. Pamela also does anal, for those of you that like that (I do not).

    The Pleasure Principle drove me back to my hotel after the session. The driver saw the look on my face, noticed that I was walking as if I were drunk, and asked whom I had fucked. When I told him that I had been with Pamela, his non-verbal reaction seemed to suggest "oh, that explains it," as if she had a reputation for unusually vigorous and intense service. She works on weeknights and not on weekends.

    Dassan Golden Palace.

    As much as I enjoyed my session at the Pleasure Principle, I wanted to try other options. Cancun's strip clubs struck me as the next most logical choice, as strip clubs tend to hire girls that fit my personal tastes more closely, and they afford more opportunity for the "meet & greet" rapport building and chemistry assessment that is usually not possible with quick casa line-ups. Dassan Golden Palace was my first choice because it received the most positive feedback in the variety of sources that I consulted and had the added advantage of being within walking distance of my hotel.

    According to a sign at the entrance, the cover charge for non-locals is $20 USD, which includes one drink and for which you receive an admission bracelet. A bouncer does a security pat-down upon entry, after which staffers blow a whistle to signal to the girls to stand up and present themselves for inspection as one takes one's seat. A sign on the cash register warns girls that the club will fine them if they approach a guy before he receives his first drink. In my experience, the girls respected this rule and only approached me immediately after I had received my first drink. I abstain from alcohol while mongering and only drank cans of soda, which were $3 USD each after the first covered drink.

    The main area of the club was fairly upscale, comparable to what one might find at a typical strip club in New York or Las Vegas, albeit a bit smaller. More impressive were the size and the visual appeal of the talent pool, which significantly exceeded that of the Pleasure Principle in both numbers and attractiveness (in my opinion). The talent pool and the quality of my first two sessions there were enough to motivate me to return twice after my first visit. I would rate the average of the talent pool as 8, with some 9's and maybe a handful of 10's. This assessment comes with the caveats that the usual stripper types may be a a closer fit for my tastes than the tastes of other mongers, and that their more revealing outfits may have skewed my observations. This establishment also had a higher proportion of the thicker tits & ass types of girls (also my preference) than most gringo-oriented venues elsewhere in Latin America, where the selection of girls often reflects the taste of many gringos for slimmer bodies.

    My receipt of my drink launched the initial barrage of unsolicited approaches by chicas, sometimes working in pairs. I fended them off with minimal difficulty, having learned from experience that chicas who approach guys right away, before guys have had time to survey the talent pool, are usually best avoided. After scanning the room, I settled on the Venezuelan chica in the attached photos, whose name I have unfortunately forgotten (after our session, I could hardly remember my own name). She caught my eye with her combination of a slim waist with large tits (probably fake) & ass (probably real) and her tendency to avoid making the first move with newly seated guys. I gestured for her to join me.

    Overpriced lady drinks ("la copa") cost $29 USD, which I would normally consider outrageous, but in this case it was less egregious because it provided so many opportunities for grinding and groping that I was practically getting some lap dance-like service along with it. Lap dances are available in a separate area, but I saw no need to inquire about those prices and services because I was already getting an experience comparable to a lap dance along with the drink anyway. I do not think that this behavior was a house rule, but was rather part of the girls' non-verbal sales pitch which, in the case of this Venezolana, was extremely persuasive. I had a hard time understanding her heavy Venezuelan accent, although the difficulty of verbal communication turned out to be a moot point. We were practically making out right there on the floor of the club in front of everyone, and she was grinding on my cock so vigorously that I wondered if I was going to bust a leche right then and there. She was clearly a candidate for the full-service VIP room and agreed to what I wanted (e. G. BBBJ, MSOG, etc.).

    Both the chicas and the male staffers consistently said that the total cost of a 1-hour VIP room session was $400 USD - $300 for the chica, which must be in cash, and $100 for the house and the room, which one can charge to a credit card if need be (I paid all in cash). I asked other gringos, and they said that girls and male staffers had also quoted them the same price, but I presume that locals (of which there were quite a few) receive lower prices (they do not pay a cover charge). I got the impression that this rate was a fixed house rule. I did not see any recent reporting on rates at this establishment and thus did not have any other data points to which to compare it. The rooms were modest but adequate for the purposes of the session; they had sinks but no showers. MSOG seemed to be the norm.

    Given the hefty price tag, I had high expectations for the quality of the service, and this Venezolana exceeded them with a performance comparable to that of Pamela, albeit with different strengths. This chica could twerk her enormous booty on my cock faster than any girl I have ever fucked before, to the point that the speed of the motion almost blurred her enormous booty as it was jiggling. She displayed strong BBBJ skills, devouring my cock with ostensible eagerness and taking all of my shaft so balls-deep into her mouth that there was hardly anything left to suck. To top it all off, she somehow managed to facefuck my cock with it that deep in her mouth. This chica also managed to extract three leches from me in an hour the first one from fucking, the second one from a mix of fucking and BBBJ, and the third just from BBBJ. The room attendant knocked on the door to inform us that time was up, but she told the attendant to wait, as she was determined to suck that third and final leche out of me. She also did CIM, which, in my experience, is often hard to find in Latin America outside of Brazil.

    I returned to Dassan Golden Palace the following night, given the high quality of this first session, the size and visual appeal of the talent pool, and the opportunity to "meet & greet" chicas. The chica that caught my eye this time bore a slight resemblance to the British porn star Sophie Dee, albeit with even bigger tits (fake but of high quality) & ass (real). Her name was Nati, a tall, thick, white, and blonde paisa from Medellin, Colombia (photos of her are available upon request via PM and not for further distribution). She was a 10 in my book for appearance, but might be an 8 or a 9 for those of you that want a shorter and thinner woman. Nati also provided a very good session, albeit a notch or two below the first two and with "only" two leches. Smashing that enormous booty was quite an experience, and she could use it to smash back quite forcefully too. Her mouth felt like silk and velvet during her BBBJ, and I shot my second leche by fucking her well-made bolt-ONS and jizzed all over them.

    I came back for a third night, as there were still some more girls that I wanted to fuck or at least to interview. I may have erred in the timing of this third visit, as it was late (1 am) on a Saturday night; my previous visits had been earlier (9 pm or so) on weeknights, when it was just busy enough to be stimulating and provide a good selection, but not too crowded and with a very favorable female: male ratio. The atmosphere had changed considerably; it was now crowded and rowdy and felt like a zoo, with large (r) numbers of drunk gringo frat boys and locals. More importantly, the girls' attitudes and approaches had changed dramatically, as they became abrupt and business-like and less amenable to rapport building and chemistry assessment interviews; they wanted to know right off the bat what if any services I wanted and lost interest if I did not immediately agree to whatever they suggested.

    I was close to giving up when I encountered Camilla, a young (she said that she was 20), baby-faced, petite, and voluptuous paisa from Medellin who seemed more amenable to my style and approach. She seemed like a good fit during the interview but was somewhat of a dud in the VIP room; I am uncertain if her relatively weak performance was due to fatigue (it was nearly 3 am) or a youthful lack of adequate experience or was simply half-assed. Still, I enjoyed fucking such a young and relatively tight pussy with a big booty to grab nearby, and I fucked her natural big tits for my second leche.

    Conclusions and Further Discussion.

    I went to Cancun on someone else's dime for someone else's reasons and had to decide what to do with my free time and extra cash. I had three choices: a) pay USA -style prices at high-quality and conveniently located establishments; b) make the long trip to Mary's Spa to pay more reasonable prices to fuck girls that I did not find that appealing; or c) stay alone in my hotel room, jerk off, and save my money for a more cost-effective mongering destination. I chose a), and I am glad that I did so.

    Cancun may have a weak reputation as a mongering destination, but I found that the weakness of its reputation in that regard is definitely not due to any lack of high-quality talent. Indeed, I found that the quality of the talent was just as good as that of popular mongering destinations, if not better in some ways. The quality of the service was also comparable to what I have had in popular mongering destinations, if not better, with the exceptions of: Camilla, which may have been an error on my part; and the CBJ house rule at the Pleasure Principle, which appears to be typical of this part of Mexico.

    Cancun's weak reputation among mongers and the dearth of reporting on its mongering scene is probably due to the USA -style pricing. For those that monger in Latin America or elsewhere overseas mostly or entirely because domestic mongering is prohibitively expensive, the price of quality talent and service in Cancun must be a huge deterrent. My reasons for mongering in Latin America or elsewhere overseas are quite different, although I am nonetheless cost-conscious and seek good value for my money. My reasons for overseas mongering include my physical and cultural taste for Latinas and the opportunity to "meet & greet" the girls in an informal social setting, or at least view them in a line-up, rather than relying on photos and reviews on the Internet and scheduling appointments.

    The same factors that make Cancun unappealing to mongers may make it more appealing to some of the quality talent there. For those girls that choose to leave their native countries or regions in Latin America to work abroad, Cancun must seem like a prestigious or glamorous place to work, comparable to what Las Vegas or Miami must seem like to many North American girls, and that prestige or perceived glamour may be a factor in attracting quality talent there. The high prices must also be quite competitive in comparison to other foreign destinations for those girls that can earn higher rates. For example, Nati explained to me that she refused to work in Medellin because the local rates were so low, and she chose Cancun over other foreign destinations where many paisa girls go to work because of the higher rates and its general reputation. She nonetheless acknowledged that Medellin must be great for mongers, but felt that Cancun was more advantageous for a girl who can compete there.

    Many mongers refuse to accept the notion that sometimes "you get what you pay for," or that there is often a correlation between price and quality. In this case, I believe that this factor explains the discrepancy in price and quality between Mary's Spa on one hand and the establishments that I patronized on the other. If a girl can earn up to three times as much at the Pleasure Principle or Dassan Golden Palace, why would she even consider working for peanuts (in relative terms) at Mary's Spa, unless those higher-end establishments refused to hire her because she could not compete there? This factor might explain why the handful of girls at Mary's Spa struck me as rather unimpressive.

    Cancun's weak reputation for mongering may also stem in part from its primary status as a leading destination for mainstream mass tourism, which, as I have learned, often does not coexist well with mongering. The unawareness of mainstream North American tourists of typical chica pricing in Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America must be a significant factor in encouraging these establishments to charge USA -style prices, beyond the generally high prices of the Hotel Zone, local real estate costs, etc.

    Equally important, if not more so, may be the general character and behavior of many of the mainstream tourists that Cancun attracts in this case, drunk gringo college kids, who may have been present in even larger numbers than usual for Spring Break. Their sheer numbers and the atmosphere that they created may have contributed to the only weak session that I had late that Saturday night and my greater difficulty finding a chica for a session in the first place. My previous and much more satisfying sessions occurred before the frat boys were present in such large numbers, both earlier at night and earlier in the week, when it felt more like any other strip club in Latin America and not like a North American-style strip club full of drunk frat boys who do not speak a word of Spanish (what are they teaching kids in high school and college nowadays?) These drunk kids seemed to have no knowledge of or interest in Latino culture or any idea of how to cultivate rapport and chemistry with the girls in support of a quality GFE; they seemed to think that English and dollar bills were enough.

    Despite the above, I had a great time overall that significantly exceeded my modest expectations. This trip was my second mongering experience in Mexico; my first experience was in Cozumel, where I also went primarily for another purpose (scuba diving) and did some mongering on the side. The mongering in Cozumel also exceeded my low expectations, but not nearly as much as in Cancun. I have fared well in the Yucatan region thus far and have accordingly developed an interest in further exploration of Mexico, both for mongering and other reasons. Tijuana would be the first and most obvious choice, but the security and law enforcement issues there give me doubts, and I am uncertain as to what if anything there would be for me to do during the day. Playa Del Carmen may be a possibility for a cenote diving trip, with some mongering on the side. Are there any places in Mexico that you would recommend for a good combination of mongering and non-mongering activities?
    Excellent report. Good writing. Cancun used to be my go to destination 12-15 years ago. Well over 50 trips. However, for the exact reasons you mentioned I no longer go there. The same quality of clubs and the same quality of girls were $80-$100 a session. The last time I was there which similar to yours was a vacation trip and not a mongering trip the price was $200-$250 and I couldn't believe it. Now the price is somewhere around $400. Just to enter the clubs is now $29 and at every turn someone is asking for a tip or trying to up sell. The last time I was there I was spending $1500-$2000 a night with food, drinks, taxi hotel etc, It just got to be too much and I have moved on to other destinations. Its a shame because Cancun is an awesome place. Great food, good people, lots to do and great tequila its a shame what has happened.

  9. #552

    Cancun Trip Report, March 2018

    Introduction.

    I went to Cancun in March 2018 for non-mongering and non-tourist purposes but did some mongering on the side. I had low expectations for the mongering in Cancun due to the limited amount of reporting on the local scene and the generally unfavorable assessments of it, due in large part to high prices and limited options, but I believe that there are other factors at work. My generally positive experience significantly exceeded my expectations, albeit at a significant cost and with one exception that may have been partially due to a lapse in judgment on my part. Many mongers resist the notion that "you get what you pay for," or that there is often a correlation between price and quality, which I believe may have been true in this case and in many other cases (see my September 2017 trip report on Rio de Janeiro and the discussion that resulted from it). I found that Cancun does have some high-quality mongering options and talent, but they come at such a high price that Cancun is not a desirable destination for a mongering trip unless you are a high-roller or otherwise willing to pay prices comparable to those in the USA The casual monger who visits Cancun for a normal vacation and just wants a few quality sessions on the side may find Cancun more appealing. I do not have any strong desire to return, but I am nonetheless glad that I went there this one time and had this experience.

    By way of context, I was in Cancun for reasons other than my own desire to visit it, and I went on someone else's dime; that third party covered my flight, hotel, meals, and a few other expenses. The coverage of these basic expenses freed up more of my own funds for mongering; otherwise, I would not have spent nearly so much on mongering in Latin America, but I was glad that I did so in this case. I also accepted the notion that Cancun, or at least its Hotel Zone, is an Americanized or globalized enclave, rather than the "real" Mexico, and that prices would accordingly be higher. I was also on someone else's schedule and thus did not have time to scrounge around for diamonds in the rough.

    Brothels: Mary's Spa and the Pleasure Principle.

    I checked out Mary's Spa, which seemed to be the most popular option in Cancun, based on the amount of reporting on it and probably due to its reasonable prices. This brief visit turned out to be a waste of time, given the length of the cab ride downtown and then back to the Hotel Zone. There were only a few girls available at the time, and none of them struck me as appealing enough to pull the trigger. This assessment comes with the caveat that the casa business model has often yielded below-average results for me, so I am a bit more hesitant than usual when potentially selecting a chica from a casa line-up.

    My visit to the Pleasure Principle was much more successful and convenient. I am glad that I overcame my resistance to visiting this establishment, as there has been relatively little reporting on it, but the small amount of reporting that I found was highly and consistently positive. I used the chat feature on its website to arrange my free ride to and from its Hotel Zone location to view their line-up. A male manager explained their pricing system, which was not clear from previous reporting. All sessions are for 60 minutes and include the same service but different rooms with different features: the cheapest room is $300, a fancier room is $350, and the fanciest room is $400. I saw no reason to pay more for a fancier room, and the cheapest room was adequate for an hour-long session, with a shower and a sink.

    The line-up at the Pleasure Principle was much more impressive and extensive than that of Mary's Spa; the two establishments are in totally different leagues. They also timed the presentation to give me more time to inspect the merchandise thoroughly and to chat with the chicas. By the end of the line-up, I had a few candidates in mind, but the clear winner was Pamela from Argentina. I had read a positive review of her elsewhere and thus had her in mind even before seeing her in person, but I probably would have selected her anyway. She was just a bit hotter than the other chicas, in my opinion, but what sold me was the sensuality that she exuded. I have attached a few photos of Pamela to this report.

    Pamela turned out to be an excellent choice and significantly exceeded my expectations, providing a session that easily earned a spot in my Top 20 mongering experiences of all time and perhaps in the Top 10 as well. The session was nearly flawless, with CBJ as the only shortcoming that I can identify; it is evidently a house rule, which was one of the reasons for my initial reluctance to come here. CBJ would normally be a showstopper for me, but in this case it turned out to be a moot point and I hardly noticed the difference; in fact, I might have been better off that way because I might have otherwise busted my nuts prematurely she was that good with both her mouth and her pussy.

    Speaking of loads, Pamela managed to extract a remarkable three leches from me in one hour. MSOG appears to be the norm at this establishment, in contrast to the "one and done" mentality of many chicas, for whom one hour means "whenever you leche for the first time" and leave as the last drops of leche are still spurting out of your cock. More remarkably, it was actually Pamela that initiated the third round, and I almost managed to finish all three leches in the condom from fucking, rather than blowjobs, which would have been unprecedented for me. I was getting close to finishing the third leche from fucking, but she had already exhausted me and thus finished me off with her mouth instead.

    I believe that Pamela is one of those rare gems that chose this line of work because they like to fuck a lot, rather than out of financial hardship. She never made such a statement explicitly, about which I would have been skeptical, but she demonstrated it with her actions and may have revealed it inadvertently. She said that she disliked Asian clients because they only fuck for a few minutes, bust one nut, and leave. Some girls, especially in Southeast Asian destinations that North Asian mongers frequent, prefer such clients for precisely that reason ("3 minutes, 3 inches, and 3000 baht" so that they can get away with half-assed service, but Pamela's motivations appeared to be quite the opposite.

    Pamela is Argentinian but darker and less Caucasian in appearance than most Argentinians. I went to Buenos Aires last year, and I wish I had found more local chicas there with her combination of appearance and performance (I usually ended up with foreign chicas there). I did not encounter any other Argentinian chicas in Cancun (the largest numbers of foreign chicas there were from Venezuela and Colombia), and I cannot recall encountering or even hearing about Argentinian chicas working in other Latin American countries, so I am curious as to how and why she came to Cancun.

    Pamela is in excellent physical condition, with an athletic, well-toned body and a high level of cardiovascular fitness. To be honest, she did most of the work, vigorously riding my cock in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, at which she excelled, but which did not appear to tire her in any way that I could perceive. In fact, the amount of stimulation that she provided probably drained me more than her physical exertion might have tired her, if it tired her at all. Her ass was quite firm, but with just enough softness to grab pleasantly. Her fake tits were a bit firmer than I would have preferred, but still of good quality. She had one of the warmest pussies that I have felt in a long time. It may have helped to set the tone that I had begun the foreplay with some light digital stimulation of her clit, to which she was highly responsive, as well as some deeper digital penetration later on. Her blowjob style was quite intense as well, with quite a bit of head bobbing, tongue manipulation, and BLS. I have normally not been a fan of BLS, but Pamela may have converted me; she must have a tongue like that of an anteater. Pamela also does anal, for those of you that like that (I do not).

    The Pleasure Principle drove me back to my hotel after the session. The driver saw the look on my face, noticed that I was walking as if I were drunk, and asked whom I had fucked. When I told him that I had been with Pamela, his non-verbal reaction seemed to suggest "oh, that explains it," as if she had a reputation for unusually vigorous and intense service. She works on weeknights and not on weekends.

    Dassan Golden Palace.

    As much as I enjoyed my session at the Pleasure Principle, I wanted to try other options. Cancun's strip clubs struck me as the next most logical choice, as strip clubs tend to hire girls that fit my personal tastes more closely, and they afford more opportunity for the "meet & greet" rapport building and chemistry assessment that is usually not possible with quick casa line-ups. Dassan Golden Palace was my first choice because it received the most positive feedback in the variety of sources that I consulted and had the added advantage of being within walking distance of my hotel.

    According to a sign at the entrance, the cover charge for non-locals is $20 USD, which includes one drink and for which you receive an admission bracelet. A bouncer does a security pat-down upon entry, after which staffers blow a whistle to signal to the girls to stand up and present themselves for inspection as one takes one's seat. A sign on the cash register warns girls that the club will fine them if they approach a guy before he receives his first drink. In my experience, the girls respected this rule and only approached me immediately after I had received my first drink. I abstain from alcohol while mongering and only drank cans of soda, which were $3 USD each after the first covered drink.

    The main area of the club was fairly upscale, comparable to what one might find at a typical strip club in New York or Las Vegas, albeit a bit smaller. More impressive were the size and the visual appeal of the talent pool, which significantly exceeded that of the Pleasure Principle in both numbers and attractiveness (in my opinion). The talent pool and the quality of my first two sessions there were enough to motivate me to return twice after my first visit. I would rate the average of the talent pool as 8, with some 9's and maybe a handful of 10's. This assessment comes with the caveats that the usual stripper types may be a a closer fit for my tastes than the tastes of other mongers, and that their more revealing outfits may have skewed my observations. This establishment also had a higher proportion of the thicker tits & ass types of girls (also my preference) than most gringo-oriented venues elsewhere in Latin America, where the selection of girls often reflects the taste of many gringos for slimmer bodies.

    My receipt of my drink launched the initial barrage of unsolicited approaches by chicas, sometimes working in pairs. I fended them off with minimal difficulty, having learned from experience that chicas who approach guys right away, before guys have had time to survey the talent pool, are usually best avoided. After scanning the room, I settled on the Venezuelan chica in the attached photos, whose name I have unfortunately forgotten (after our session, I could hardly remember my own name). She caught my eye with her combination of a slim waist with large tits (probably fake) & ass (probably real) and her tendency to avoid making the first move with newly seated guys. I gestured for her to join me.

    Overpriced lady drinks ("la copa") cost $29 USD, which I would normally consider outrageous, but in this case it was less egregious because it provided so many opportunities for grinding and groping that I was practically getting some lap dance-like service along with it. Lap dances are available in a separate area, but I saw no need to inquire about those prices and services because I was already getting an experience comparable to a lap dance along with the drink anyway. I do not think that this behavior was a house rule, but was rather part of the girls' non-verbal sales pitch which, in the case of this Venezolana, was extremely persuasive. I had a hard time understanding her heavy Venezuelan accent, although the difficulty of verbal communication turned out to be a moot point. We were practically making out right there on the floor of the club in front of everyone, and she was grinding on my cock so vigorously that I wondered if I was going to bust a leche right then and there. She was clearly a candidate for the full-service VIP room and agreed to what I wanted (e. G. BBBJ, MSOG, etc.).

    Both the chicas and the male staffers consistently said that the total cost of a 1-hour VIP room session was $400 USD - $300 for the chica, which must be in cash, and $100 for the house and the room, which one can charge to a credit card if need be (I paid all in cash). I asked other gringos, and they said that girls and male staffers had also quoted them the same price, but I presume that locals (of which there were quite a few) receive lower prices (they do not pay a cover charge). I got the impression that this rate was a fixed house rule. I did not see any recent reporting on rates at this establishment and thus did not have any other data points to which to compare it. The rooms were modest but adequate for the purposes of the session; they had sinks but no showers. MSOG seemed to be the norm.

    Given the hefty price tag, I had high expectations for the quality of the service, and this Venezolana exceeded them with a performance comparable to that of Pamela, albeit with different strengths. This chica could twerk her enormous booty on my cock faster than any girl I have ever fucked before, to the point that the speed of the motion almost blurred her enormous booty as it was jiggling. She displayed strong BBBJ skills, devouring my cock with ostensible eagerness and taking all of my shaft so balls-deep into her mouth that there was hardly anything left to suck. To top it all off, she somehow managed to facefuck my cock with it that deep in her mouth. This chica also managed to extract three leches from me in an hour the first one from fucking, the second one from a mix of fucking and BBBJ, and the third just from BBBJ. The room attendant knocked on the door to inform us that time was up, but she told the attendant to wait, as she was determined to suck that third and final leche out of me. She also did CIM, which, in my experience, is often hard to find in Latin America outside of Brazil.

    I returned to Dassan Golden Palace the following night, given the high quality of this first session, the size and visual appeal of the talent pool, and the opportunity to "meet & greet" chicas. The chica that caught my eye this time bore a slight resemblance to the British porn star Sophie Dee, albeit with even bigger tits (fake but of high quality) & ass (real). Her name was Nati, a tall, thick, white, and blonde paisa from Medellin, Colombia (photos of her are available upon request via PM and not for further distribution). She was a 10 in my book for appearance, but might be an 8 or a 9 for those of you that want a shorter and thinner woman. Nati also provided a very good session, albeit a notch or two below the first two and with "only" two leches. Smashing that enormous booty was quite an experience, and she could use it to smash back quite forcefully too. Her mouth felt like silk and velvet during her BBBJ, and I shot my second leche by fucking her well-made bolt-ONS and jizzed all over them.

    I came back for a third night, as there were still some more girls that I wanted to fuck or at least to interview. I may have erred in the timing of this third visit, as it was late (1 am) on a Saturday night; my previous visits had been earlier (9 pm or so) on weeknights, when it was just busy enough to be stimulating and provide a good selection, but not too crowded and with a very favorable female: male ratio. The atmosphere had changed considerably; it was now crowded and rowdy and felt like a zoo, with large (r) numbers of drunk gringo frat boys and locals. More importantly, the girls' attitudes and approaches had changed dramatically, as they became abrupt and business-like and less amenable to rapport building and chemistry assessment interviews; they wanted to know right off the bat what if any services I wanted and lost interest if I did not immediately agree to whatever they suggested.

    I was close to giving up when I encountered Camilla, a young (she said that she was 20), baby-faced, petite, and voluptuous paisa from Medellin who seemed more amenable to my style and approach. She seemed like a good fit during the interview but was somewhat of a dud in the VIP room; I am uncertain if her relatively weak performance was due to fatigue (it was nearly 3 am) or a youthful lack of adequate experience or was simply half-assed. Still, I enjoyed fucking such a young and relatively tight pussy with a big booty to grab nearby, and I fucked her natural big tits for my second leche.

    Conclusions and Further Discussion.

    I went to Cancun on someone else's dime for someone else's reasons and had to decide what to do with my free time and extra cash. I had three choices: a) pay USA -style prices at high-quality and conveniently located establishments; b) make the long trip to Mary's Spa to pay more reasonable prices to fuck girls that I did not find that appealing; or c) stay alone in my hotel room, jerk off, and save my money for a more cost-effective mongering destination. I chose a), and I am glad that I did so.

    Cancun may have a weak reputation as a mongering destination, but I found that the weakness of its reputation in that regard is definitely not due to any lack of high-quality talent. Indeed, I found that the quality of the talent was just as good as that of popular mongering destinations, if not better in some ways. The quality of the service was also comparable to what I have had in popular mongering destinations, if not better, with the exceptions of: Camilla, which may have been an error on my part; and the CBJ house rule at the Pleasure Principle, which appears to be typical of this part of Mexico.

    Cancun's weak reputation among mongers and the dearth of reporting on its mongering scene is probably due to the USA -style pricing. For those that monger in Latin America or elsewhere overseas mostly or entirely because domestic mongering is prohibitively expensive, the price of quality talent and service in Cancun must be a huge deterrent. My reasons for mongering in Latin America or elsewhere overseas are quite different, although I am nonetheless cost-conscious and seek good value for my money. My reasons for overseas mongering include my physical and cultural taste for Latinas and the opportunity to "meet & greet" the girls in an informal social setting, or at least view them in a line-up, rather than relying on photos and reviews on the Internet and scheduling appointments.

    The same factors that make Cancun unappealing to mongers may make it more appealing to some of the quality talent there. For those girls that choose to leave their native countries or regions in Latin America to work abroad, Cancun must seem like a prestigious or glamorous place to work, comparable to what Las Vegas or Miami must seem like to many North American girls, and that prestige or perceived glamour may be a factor in attracting quality talent there. The high prices must also be quite competitive in comparison to other foreign destinations for those girls that can earn higher rates. For example, Nati explained to me that she refused to work in Medellin because the local rates were so low, and she chose Cancun over other foreign destinations where many paisa girls go to work because of the higher rates and its general reputation. She nonetheless acknowledged that Medellin must be great for mongers, but felt that Cancun was more advantageous for a girl who can compete there.

    Many mongers refuse to accept the notion that sometimes "you get what you pay for," or that there is often a correlation between price and quality. In this case, I believe that this factor explains the discrepancy in price and quality between Mary's Spa on one hand and the establishments that I patronized on the other. If a girl can earn up to three times as much at the Pleasure Principle or Dassan Golden Palace, why would she even consider working for peanuts (in relative terms) at Mary's Spa, unless those higher-end establishments refused to hire her because she could not compete there? This factor might explain why the handful of girls at Mary's Spa struck me as rather unimpressive.

    Cancun's weak reputation for mongering may also stem in part from its primary status as a leading destination for mainstream mass tourism, which, as I have learned, often does not coexist well with mongering. The unawareness of mainstream North American tourists of typical chica pricing in Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America must be a significant factor in encouraging these establishments to charge USA -style prices, beyond the generally high prices of the Hotel Zone, local real estate costs, etc.

    Equally important, if not more so, may be the general character and behavior of many of the mainstream tourists that Cancun attracts in this case, drunk gringo college kids, who may have been present in even larger numbers than usual for Spring Break. Their sheer numbers and the atmosphere that they created may have contributed to the only weak session that I had late that Saturday night and my greater difficulty finding a chica for a session in the first place. My previous and much more satisfying sessions occurred before the frat boys were present in such large numbers, both earlier at night and earlier in the week, when it felt more like any other strip club in Latin America and not like a North American-style strip club full of drunk frat boys who do not speak a word of Spanish (what are they teaching kids in high school and college nowadays?) These drunk kids seemed to have no knowledge of or interest in Latino culture or any idea of how to cultivate rapport and chemistry with the girls in support of a quality GFE; they seemed to think that English and dollar bills were enough.

    Despite the above, I had a great time overall that significantly exceeded my modest expectations. This trip was my second mongering experience in Mexico; my first experience was in Cozumel, where I also went primarily for another purpose (scuba diving) and did some mongering on the side. The mongering in Cozumel also exceeded my low expectations, but not nearly as much as in Cancun. I have fared well in the Yucatan region thus far and have accordingly developed an interest in further exploration of Mexico, both for mongering and other reasons. Tijuana would be the first and most obvious choice, but the security and law enforcement issues there give me doubts, and I am uncertain as to what if anything there would be for me to do during the day. Playa Del Carmen may be a possibility for a cenote diving trip, with some mongering on the side. Are there any places in Mexico that you would recommend for a good combination of mongering and non-mongering activities?
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  10. #551

    Progreso

    I'm curious if anyone has tried the one woman (Mariela) who advertises as being local to Progreso. There are no photos and her self descriptions are vague - 35 years old (probably means 40+) not fat, not skinny (size 7. I'd like to hear before dropping 1000 pesos for 90 minutes but if I don't hear, I'm sure I'll take one for the forum. I can always hope for a diamond in the rough but I'm betting this one will just be rough.

    Woody.

  11. #550
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    In reality, there isn't such a thing as "real Mexican food" . Just like there's really no such thing as "real American food". Each state in Mexico offers fare that is different from other states.

    For example, in Sinaloa (Mazatlan) they serve a lot of "steak Tampequea" that you don't find anywhere else (at least not made as well. In the north, there's a lot of spit-roasted goat that you won't find somewhere else. Tamales in Oaxaca are wrapped in banana leaves while in Jalisco (and other places) they're wrapped in corn husks. In Cancun, there's lots of fish / pork / chicken pibil with is unique to the Yucatan peninsula.

    Just like in the US. You may get pulled pork BBQ in Montana but it sure won't be as good as the same dish in NC or SC. Just sayin'.
    I think we're quibbling over semantics. There is no singular Mexican food. As you noted, each area has its own style of cooking and in many cases unique ingredients. But to say there is no true Mexican food simply isn't correct. Salbutes or panuchos are typical Yucatecan dishes. They're real Mexican food, as are pac chuk or cochinita pebil. There's lots of real Mexican food. Now back to women and sexual services. <g .

  12. #549
    Quote Originally Posted by WoodPacker500  [View Original Post]
    {snip} Cancun really isn't very good for real Mexican food. {snip}
    In reality, there isn't such a thing as "real Mexican food" . Just like there's really no such thing as "real American food". Each state in Mexico offers fare that is different from other states.

    For example, in Sinaloa (Mazatlan) they serve a lot of "steak Tampequeña" that you don't find anywhere else (at least not made as well. In the north, there's a lot of spit-roasted goat that you won't find somewhere else. Tamales in Oaxaca are wrapped in banana leaves while in Jalisco (and other places) they're wrapped in corn husks. In Cancun, there's lots of fish / pork / chicken pibil with is unique to the Yucatan peninsula.

    Just like in the US. You may get pulled pork BBQ in Montana but it sure won't be as good as the same dish in NC or SC. Just sayin'.

  13. #548
    Quote Originally Posted by Gagoo  [View Original Post]
    You are the kind of guy that is going to be paying a lot more than needed. You seem like you haven't even been in Cancun before. A taxi in Cancun isn't going to drive you around place to place for $2-$3 USD. Except for a very few places, the prices in Cancun and Playa Del Carmen are too damn expensive. If you really want to go somewhere in Mexico to bang girls go to somewhere like Guadalajara where the prices are much lower. Or if you are in California cross over to Tijuana. If you have more time to travel go somewhere like Medellin Colombia or Sosua in the Dominican Republic. Cancun or Playa Del Carmen is a terrible choice to go to for just banging girls. You go there for the beach and to party in the nightclubs at night or eat lots of Mexican food. It is a terrible choice to bang women. Unless you really don't have a problem with how much money you can spend. Also, those taxis bring you somewhere where they will get a commission. Trust me, YOU will pay this commission if you take a girl. If you want to go somewhere like that take an Uber and don't discuss your business. Unless you don't mind the extra cost. A taxi will definitely make a commission. If you take a taxi you ask them to take you somewhere a couple blocks away from where you want to go. Then you walk the rest.
    I'd agree almost 100% with this post. The only disagreement is Cancun really isn't very good for real Mexican food. There are much better choices for that like Guadalajara, Mexico City, Oaxaca, or even Merida. The cabbies make a commission on EVERYTHING. Food, booze, beach entry fees, and yes, pussy. Cancun, Playa del Carmen, and Cozumel are way over-prices and I've not been impressed with the quality.

  14. #547
    Quote Originally Posted by Islander65  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Playa Del Carmen at the end of February. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to visit? Are the massage parlors worth visiting? Any good clubs?
    I know it adds to the trip but I'd take the ferry across to Cozumel. Much cheaper and more options.

  15. #546

    Playa Del Carmen.

    Heading to Playa Del Carmen at the end of February. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to visit? Are the massage parlors worth visiting? Any good clubs?

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