Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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07-01-20 23:13 #802
Posts: 2073Based on an Italian town where they tested most of the inhabitants, they found that among the positive cases, 40 percent were asymptomatic: https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/06...ovid-19-cases/.
Asymptomatic people seem to lose their antibodies much faster:
"The results, while preliminary, suggest that survivors of SARS-CoV-2 infection may be susceptible to reinfection within weeks or months."
"These reports highlight the need to develop strong vaccines, because immunity that develops naturally during infection is suboptimal and short-lived in most people, Akiko Iwasaki, a viral immunologist at Yale University who was not involved in either study, tells The New York Times. We cannot rely on natural infection to achieve herd immunity.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/studies-report-rapid-loss-of-covid-19-antibodies-67650
We are still in the early stages, so I am not sure if death rates alone tell the full story. From a quality of life perspective, we do not know the long term outcomes for "survivors". Many people never develop symptoms. Many people experience nothing worse than a normal flu. But I believe there are reports of people who contracted the virus back in March, and while technically they "beat the virus" (meaning they are still alive), they still continue to have difficulties breathing three months later.
TBH, I will probably choose to not take an overly cautious approach, but I wouldn't criticize those that have lower risk tolerance. A few mongers who live in France, Germany, and Benelux told me they will either continue to abstain from WGs or just see WGs privately in hotels, believing the clubs to be petri dishes. Another monger friend is not concerned about health risks, but he is concerned that the LU will be at half strength and that some WGs may upsell for DFK, so he will wait for the first batch of reports to flow in before committing to a visit. If we all rush back right away, it might embolden those WGs with upselling tendencies.
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07-01-20 21:15 #801
Posts: 76Better to contract CV19 now than later in life
I have watched many interviews with epidemiologists and various experts and based on that trying to avoid CV19 is futile; it will be around for many years and may resurge in 3, 5, 10 or 100 years, like most viruses. Key points: (I) CV19 likely to be around for at least 3 years this time, (ii) mortality rate around 0. 3% and 90% of deaths are 70+ yrs, (iii) large parts of the population is not susceptible to CV19 based on possible earlier Corona virus or simply strong immune system, (iv) heard immunity likely to be at 20-30% due to p. (iii) above, (v) the older you are the more difficult symptoms, and (vi) although vaccin may come next year there may be risks of side effects (like for the 2009 vaccin). As a result it is likely better for most people to contract CV19 now than later in life.
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07-01-20 11:32 #800
Posts: 6717Originally Posted by TeaInTheSun [View Original Post]
If so, think again! We will be in this corona situation for 2-3 years. So we will just have to live with it. On and off lockdowns wherever.
I just hope they restrict air travels to a wider number of countries where they slack at monitoring and testing people. Testing should be everyone's number 1 priority. And making it globally transparent. Not like in China for example where a study recently found that 1.3 million people in Hubei province alone had been infected, and then the government keeps lying about it. And then maybe 100 other regimes around the world are following in China's footsteps.
So when we have all these fascist ego governments who likes to show the world how much greater they are at handling it than the rest, that is when we get resurgence of the pandemic. Unfortunately there are too many, and that is why we will not get rid of this ever unless something changes, and ego's goes away. But lets say in 2 years, all the fascists come to their senses.
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07-01-20 09:20 #799
Posts: 49Originally Posted by ExpatLover [View Original Post]
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06-29-20 18:31 #798
Posts: 4759Zurich Night Club
Just now 300 people who visited a night club in Zurich the 21 of June where ask to quarantine at home due to 1 positive case detected, I still believe it is not the good time to visit prostitutes or FKK, the risk is high to catch something just because their customers are probably the less careful guys not able to control their libido or they will not go.
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06-25-20 21:53 #797
Posts: 45Sweepstake?
Originally Posted by MaxSquatter [View Original Post]
Sounds like winning a 10,000,000 $ lottery.
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06-25-20 21:19 #796
Posts: 22326I really don't understand US with many southern states under virus, but no confined, and even many quite young infected. For the record for death. Worrying from Europe, where even French could be confined.
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06-25-20 21:08 #795
Posts: 2073Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]"European officials said the list would be revised every two weeks to reflect new realities around the world as nations see the virus ebb and flow."
"The E.U. cant force members to adopt it, but European officials warn that failure of any of the 27 members to stick to it could lead to the reintroduction of borders within the bloc."
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06-24-20 20:40 #794
Posts: 160That's your call of course. Just remember that 500 cases amongst a population of 83,000,000 is pretty tiny.
Originally Posted by Tp273 [View Original Post]
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06-24-20 14:07 #793
Posts: 99Originally Posted by MaxSquatter [View Original Post]
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06-24-20 02:23 #792
Posts: 1385https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/w...gtype=Homepage
OK, so there goes the FKK plan for any American sex tourist if this news is accurate.
Back in March, Trump was strutting around with his announcement that he is blocking travel from Some EU nations. This would be appropriate retribution from them now.
I was not planning on attending FKKs until there is a reliable vaccine or until the infection rates are minuscule all over the place. But for guys who keep asking when the clubs are going to open. If you are an American, you may be out of luck for a while even if the clubs open in a normal or limited capacity at some point.
FWIW, I continue to be very skeptical that the large German clubs like Oase and Sharks will open any time before September, and It is highly unlikely prior to even December in my personal view.
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06-23-20 22:36 #791
Posts: 3Maybe not best news for any man wishing to travel from USA to Germany.
https://www.france24.com/en/20200623...id-19-coliseum
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06-23-20 21:11 #790
Posts: 22326Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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06-23-20 19:51 #789
Posts: 160Hype
This whole thing is so hyped up. Daily deaths are crashing all over. In Germany deaths and even new cases have been crashing since May. So overblown.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=uk_yXpPgFKq-gge47bvoBQ&q=covid+19+germany+cases&oq=covid+19+germany+cases&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzICCAAyAggAOgQIABBHUKc9WIZKYLZNaABwAngAgAFbiAGBA5IBATWYAQCgAQGgAQKqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiTpbSIzpjqAhUqn-AKHbj2Dl0Q4dUDCAw&uact=5
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06-23-20 19:13 #788
Posts: 938Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]