Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Sirioja]

Sure, why don't you say who those 4 French TV channels are, after all they hold universal truth for you. One could say that you are "drinking the TV" or "drinking radio." Those 4 French TV channels, they have an internet presence too. They say the same thing on TV and in their internet articles. Is the same information true if somebody reads it in front of a TV camera but false if it is on a website of the same TV channel? The link that you dismissed as "drinking the internet" was from the official German Federal Office of Statistics. If their information is printed on paper, is it more reliable than the same information on their website?

I totally agree that there is plenty of BS on the internet, after all you are a very prolific internet BS producer. Dismissing official or trusted sources of information because unemployed dog portrait painters post BS on facebook is just stupid.

TF1, France TV, BFM TV, LCI, RMC, Europe 1, France inter, for information, daily. I m fully sure much more reliable than internet, at least about EU, covid. Other channels for sports like Eurosport or Canal +, or music like Oui FM. When you don't sleep much, you have more time than others, more than 20 hours per day. There are controls on TV or radio when no control on internet. We got a French I think ex baker, telling HIV don't exist, if you have a arm cut, no problem a new one will grow, having 500000 followers, making money from his bullshits, I can't compete for followers even I already have too many. I don't hear Germany is fine about covid like they seem to hear in US when they read from beginning of the year. I wonder why they cancelled big money Munich Christmas market and maybe not so far from Winter lockdown, like 1 year ago, when SA Omicron just arrived, not spreading yet.

[Mursenary]

No control on internet: many fakes and bullshits, information not accurate on the day. Just for your information, things are getting worst and worst in Germany, even before Omicron impact, when Olaf Scholtz will be soon after Angela, big work to come for him from NRW?

Except for when I post internet data from sources like the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control.

You are speaking in generalities out of stubbornness.

You already mentioned that you select your television sources, same for internet sources. Do you trust all television sources?

OK. Boomer.

[Mursenary]

Conflict of interest of some authors was not disclosed. It's a valid point.

In general, the lab leak theory was for a long time dismissed as xenophobic and so on.

I was drinking the internet here: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...id-19s-origins.

For sure, the xenophobia narrative was unnecessary. I guess the anti-conspiracy theory point was my take home message.

Concerns of conflicts of interest is fair so I'll step back and agree that the Lancet statement contributed to shushing further probing into a very valid concern that the origin was due to a lab leak in Wuhan. But the fact that long-term covid 19 antibodies (IgG) were already found in donated blood without case incidence in the United States back in December 2019 gives me pause regarding the lab leak theory. Long term antibodies in Dec 2019 means that exposure to a spike protein began in the western hemisphere way before the Wuhan outbreak. Seems to me that there was a less virulent or non virulent strain floating around the human population prior to the outbreak.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article.../e1004/6012472

But to the original point of the Lancet being discredited, I will redirect to the difference between their role in publishing research versus publishing editorials and public statements. I think your original statement alluded to the difference between referencing random internet articles versus referencing published peer reviewed sources.

[DrPoon]

You guys are not thinking. The US would never have dropped a nuclear bomb on Germany / Europe. The result would have been communist Russia being dominant in the region with Communism taking over the whole of Western Europe in addition to Eastern Europe. The US hates Communists more than Nazis.

If they never dropped it on Japan then Japan would have caused China never to be a world power and we would never have had Communist China as a problem and never would have had coronavirus created either.

[Turgid]

Can only be happy and thanks US he lost when crazy. Germans are so shameful about him. Our Napoleon who dreamed about Europe before Hitler, also lost in Russia where worst enemy is cold in Winter. Not many are able to be strong in cold.

The military creates empires. The greatest military men in history were Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Pompei and Genghis Khan with special mention of Attila the Hun and Napoleon Bonaparte. The greatest military men with the exception of Hannibal made their countries control the greatest empires of their time. Hannibal fought arguably the greatest empire of all time (the Romans). Napoleon made the mistake of fighting wars on many fronts instead of conquering then consolidating.

Every European country had their moments of greatness. Greece and Rome in ancient times. With the 'discovery' of the New World Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and Britain saw their periods of greatness. France's time came with the ascendency of Napoleon who blew his chances of becoming emperor of the world.

Germany's moment of greatness began at the dawn of the 20th century. They were the most powerful country in the world then. They lost the first world war through bad tactics and sheer force of numbers. Hitler's oratory rallied the German people into the second world war. However the extreme racists, namely Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler were motivated by emotion. BTW, none of those racists were military men. Hitler was little more than a private in World War I. Had they been killed somehow during the war but before the invasion of Russia and had the much decorated Hermann Goering taken over, Germany would have had a better chance at overcoming Europe.

[Turgid]

I predict the USA would have used nuclear weapons in Europe which is a very terrible alternative historical timeline.

You guys are not thinking. The US would never have dropped a nuclear bomb on Germany / Europe. The result would have been communist Russia being dominant in the region with Communism taking over the whole of Western Europe in addition to Eastern Europe. The US hates Communists more than Nazis.

[Sirioja]

You do realize that saying "The internet" is like saying "the books," or "the radio," or "the TV" right? Many sources on a medium.

Boomer moment I suppose.

No control on internet: many fakes and bullshits, information not accurate on the day. Just for your information, things are getting worst and worst in Germany, even before Omicron impact, when Olaf Scholtz will be soon after Angela, big work to come for him from NRW?

[PaulInZurich]

... By cover up, do you mean the publication of this open letter?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l.../PIIS0140-6736(20) 30418-9/ fulltext.

Conflict of interest of some authors was not disclosed. It's a valid point.

In general, the lab leak theory was for a long time dismissed as xenophobic and so on.

I was drinking the internet here: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...id-19s-origins.

[PaulInZurich]

You do realize that saying "The internet" is like saying "the books," or "the radio," or "the TV" right?..

No, he doesn't realize it. When he says he listens to 3 radio channels in his car, he is listening to only one, the other two are voices in his head.

[PaulInZurich]

I prefer to watch 4 different French TV information channels with journalists all over the world, or listen to 3 radios in car, then my mind try to think and select information, rather than fakes on internet.

Sure, why don't you say who those 4 French TV channels are, after all they hold universal truth for you. One could say that you are "drinking the TV" or "drinking radio." Those 4 French TV channels, they have an internet presence too. They say the same thing on TV and in their internet articles. Is the same information true if somebody reads it in front of a TV camera but false if it is on a website of the same TV channel? The link that you dismissed as "drinking the internet" was from the official German Federal Office of Statistics. If their information is printed on paper, is it more reliable than the same information on their website?

I totally agree that there is plenty of BS on the internet, after all you are a very prolific internet BS producer. Dismissing official or trusted sources of information because unemployed dog portrait painters post BS on facebook is just stupid.

[Mursenary]

I prefer to watch 4 different French TV information channels with journalists all over the world, or listen to 3 radios in car, then my mind try to think and select information, rather than fakes on internet. I didn't hear Angela telling all in fine in Germany, nor in Bavaria, nor in NRW. And it was before Omicron.

You do realize that saying "The internet" is like saying "the books," or "the radio," or "the TV" right? Many sources on a medium.

Boomer moment I suppose.

[Mursenary]

Week ending 31 January: 9.1 admissions / million / week.

Week ending 14 November: 6.3 admissions / million / week (down from 7.1 on 07. November).

That should have read per million per day.

[Sirioja]

And 539 tested negative but who were in contact for hours, returned home, so SA Omicron may be everywhere in Western EU, UK, probably Switzerland now. Also in Canada, Hong Kong, Israel which close country. Wait and see for strongest versus delta, maybe SA will marry Indian? For Winter wedding when cold, less vitamin the in body, vaccine only efficient for tomorrow.

Japan also closed. Bad for Asians specialist WGs.

[Sirioja]

An intelligent person would have looked at that link and could argue several things:

- the data is old.

- the data doesn't show intensive care occupancy, which is what counts.

You just dismiss everything that doesn't suit what is made up in your, let's call it brain (and I am being very generous here) as "drinking the internet" regardless of the source. There is a difference for example between a study published in the Lancet and the facebook post of an unemployed dog portrait painter.

I prefer to watch 4 different French TV information channels with journalists all over the world, or listen to 3 radios in car, then my mind try to think and select information, rather than fakes on internet. I didn't hear Angela telling all in fine in Germany, nor in Bavaria, nor in NRW. And it was before Omicron.

[Sirioja]

Had Hitler listened to his generals who were more seasoned in combat tactics than him he would not have fought a war on two fronts. He could have left Russia for another time and concentrated all his forces on Western Europe. Also had he not regarded Britain as a possible ally he could have wiped out the British forces at Dunkirk which is what some of his top military men wanted. Instead he allowed them to escape back to England. Having destroyed England's army he would then have control of all of Western Europe and then turn his sights on Russia. In such a scenario there was no possibility of America invading Germany. America would have concentrated on Japan. America would obviously have beaten Japan. With a one front war of the German controlled Western Europe against Communist Russia what would America have done?

Can only be happy and thanks US he lost when crazy. Germans are so shameful about him. Our Napoleon who dreamed about Europe before Hitler, also lost in Russia where worst enemy is cold in Winter. Not many are able to be strong in cold.