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  1. #8090

    World War 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Turgid seems to have the most comprehension regarding WW2 here. Has anyone seen Man in the High Castle by the way? Or is it worth a watch?
    Dude, I know everything there is to know about WW2 backwards and forwards. It's my "favorite war". Err, so to speak (shrugs).

  2. #8089
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Turgid seems to have the most comprehension regarding WW2 here. Has anyone seen Man in the High Castle by the way? Or is it worth a watch?
    That's rather good but just so you know, it's an adaptation from a Philip K Dick book, it's not reality!

  3. #8088
    Turgid seems to have the most comprehension regarding WW2 here. Has anyone seen Man in the High Castle by the way? Or is it worth a watch?

    But the nuclear question still has to considered, and Germany messed up on that account. Germany could have easily beaten USA to developing the bomb. But the fools in Germany attacked Norway, so its karma:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...mb-heavy-water

  4. #8087

    In the Navy

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Germany was way superior to Britain militarily; even with the invasion by Germany of the Soviet Union Germany would have been able to defeat Britain. An expert's view:

    "Six months before Pearl Harbor, Germany had launched an invasion of the Soviet Union, its erstwhile ally. By December 5, two days before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, German armies had advanced to within 5 miles of Moscow.

    Hitler had decided to postpone a cross-channel invasion of Britain itself until his armies were able to defeat the Soviet Union, but Germany was still fighting Britain through aerial and missile bombing, and was engaged against Britain on the seas, as well as elsewhere in the British Empire, as in North Africa. In South Asia, Britain was also defending its colonies and commonwealth against Japan. On the face of it, especially in the long term and even with Lend-Lease aid from the United States, it is difficult to see how Britain could have continued the war without the entry of the United States into the conflict on its side. Presumably, Winston Churchill would have had to sue for peace, or endure a German invasion of the British Isles once the Nazis had consolidated their military strength in Europe. ".

    Hitler's decision to fight a 2 front war was the main reason for its defeat in World War 2.
    There was one critical way in which Germany was not superior to Britain, and that would be in naval might. To defeat Britain, the Nazis would have had to invade across the English Channel. That's when the Royal Navy would have showed up and wiped them out. So much for that noise!

  5. #8086
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Agree with the quote you provided 100 percent. Common sense says that a two-front war is less preferable. But I do not see anywhere where this expert says Hitler should have delayed his invasion of USSR or pushed it to the summer of 1942 to focus on knocking Britain out of the war.

    My main point is that Hitler did not have the luxury to postpone the invasion of USSR. And the second paragraph of this expert's quote details exactly why: Germany and Japan lacked the production capacity and population to beat USA and USSR in a long war. Essentially, Germany and Japan's only chance was to land a sucker punch and force a surrender early, before their economically and numerically superior foes had a chance to ramp up for war. The German blitzkrieg into USSR was so fast, that on the first day of Operation Barbosa, they were able to obliterate 40 percent of the Red Army's bomber aircraft on the ground before they were even able to take off. Japan tried to follow a similar blueprint with the Pearl Harbor attack. Their objective was to destroy the Pacific fleet but they missed their targets.

    Attached image shows how many tanks USSR and USA produced, once they committed to the effort in 1941. The Allies easily out-produced the Axis. The Axis powers' "sneak attacks" were to incapacitate the enemy, then quickly achieve victory before the enemy could replace their fleet or bomber force.

    Moving 3 million troops and tanks to the Eastern Front is doable. Moving that force across the English Channel to launch an offensive? Suicide.

    Moreover, Stalin was sitting back watching the Western powers destroy themselves, before entering the fray. He likely would have invaded Germany if not in 1942 then probably 1943-1944.
    Germany was way superior to Britain militarily; even with the invasion by Germany of the Soviet Union Germany would have been able to defeat Britain. An expert's view:

    "Six months before Pearl Harbor, Germany had launched an invasion of the Soviet Union, its erstwhile ally. By December 5, two days before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, German armies had advanced to within 5 miles of Moscow.

    Hitler had decided to postpone a cross-channel invasion of Britain itself until his armies were able to defeat the Soviet Union, but Germany was still fighting Britain through aerial and missile bombing, and was engaged against Britain on the seas, as well as elsewhere in the British Empire, as in North Africa. In South Asia, Britain was also defending its colonies and commonwealth against Japan. On the face of it, especially in the long term and even with Lend-Lease aid from the United States, it is difficult to see how Britain could have continued the war without the entry of the United States into the conflict on its side. Presumably, Winston Churchill would have had to sue for peace, or endure a German invasion of the British Isles once the Nazis had consolidated their military strength in Europe. ".

    Hitler's decision to fight a 2 front war was the main reason for its defeat in World War 2.

  6. #8085
    Quote Originally Posted by McGrath  [View Original Post]
    I found this. Hessen already made some rule changes which will be in effect on Sunday. Masks will be back even with 2 G and a indoor place with over 250 guests need a permit from health authorities.

    https://www.hessen.de/Presse/Hessisc...hutzverordnung
    At least the mask requirement and the rapid test prior to entry will be useful. However the rest of the 2 G (recovery and vaccine) will not stop the Omicron which has shown to infect double vaxed people already. In fact the cases in the USA all occurred among double vaccinated people.

  7. #8084
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, they leave it open what to do with sauna (clubs), mongering, etc. It will be different in every region (state), in NRW they don't want any relation (anymore) with the incident rate.

    Today more details about all new rules.
    I'm glad I made my trip to Sharks last Friday as I can see further a closure.

    Although fairly busy it wasn't the usual Friday probably due to the 5€ tests but with the additional mask wearing next week I can see a continued decline on attendance.

    With the new variant & high rates in Germany a temporary closure during December / January when many girls leave won't be the worse decision. The only issue would be whether the authorities drag their feet to allow a reopening when things improve which I hope they won't, unless the variant has a surprise in store.

    Regards last Friday there were plenty of girls looking for business as they too are aware of a potential closure. Their biggest moan was the many groups of men who rarely or never took a room but in general it was the usual atmosphere.

  8. #8083
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    How long did it take for your temperature to return to normal?

    I think the Johnson vaccine will require a messenger RNA booster in 6 months so this will probably happen again for the second shot. Or the reports are that Moderna is working on a Omicron booster which everyone will have to take instead ASAP.
    Temperature only from morning to evening, on next day I was at Sharks with PCR made while temperature. In France, we have to have 1 more dose before 7 months to keep our pass. I don t want other dose, I want to keep my blood clean, when I cured my belly infection on my own on my bicycle.

  9. #8082
    Quote Originally Posted by McGrath  [View Original Post]
    I found this. Hessen already made some rule changes which will be in effect on Sunday. Masks will be back even with 2 G and a indoor place with over 250 guests need a permit from health authorities.

    https://www.hessen.de/Presse/Hessisc...hutzverordnung
    Thanks, they leave it open what to do with sauna (clubs), mongering, etc. It will be different in every region (state), in NRW they don't want any relation (anymore) with the incident rate.

    Today more details about all new rules.

  10. #8081
    Food for thought:
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  11. #8080
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Motti tactics don't work so well in the open steppe.
    Clothing!

    But you are the biggest retard I have ever written to, so you are excused for not knowing.

  12. #8079
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    The link I posted talks how restrictions first imposed earlier were extended on 8 November for 30 days. So these restrictions had plenty of time to reduce the number of cases.
    You are so brainwashed you don't even know it yourself. A total lost and hopeless brainless case! You are dumbgounded on so many accounts here and get forleden by fake data imposed to show another set of fake data: efficiency of lockdowns. You make zero connections made to the entire lockdown scheme we live in. Which is a result of global resources as modelled by World2, World3 and other newer data simulations.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World3

  13. #8078
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    Indeed, I was, thanks for clarifyning.

    You will know tomorrow (Thursday) around noon, then will be clear when they will close.
    You have to think that it will be for sure this weekend. Still, they seem to be dragging their feet. Perhaps they are wanting to give the 2 G rules some time to see if those are enough to curb the numbers. No one wants to sacrifice another Christmas season. The economic numbers for a second holiday season lost will be tragic. Money talks but covid numbers are reaching the tipping point of acceptable casualties.

  14. #8077
    I found this. Hessen already made some rule changes which will be in effect on Sunday. Masks will be back even with 2 G and a indoor place with over 250 guests need a permit from health authorities.

    https://www.hessen.de/Presse/Hessisc...hutzverordnung

  15. #8076
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Another expert's take on the war on two fronts:

    "A two-front war scenario, almost identical to the first World War would eventually aggregate in the European theatre during World War II, when Nazi Germany confronted allied France, Great Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands and later the United States in the west and the Soviet Union to the east.

    Adolf Hitler initially attempted to avoid a two-front war as he engaged and crushed his opponents successively. In 1940, however, he failed to beat Great Britain in the air battle and in 1941 attacked the Soviet Union. Great Britain in relative safety on its island remained unbeaten and managed to maintain the western front. Hitler also failed to neutralize Great Britain and avoid a two-front war.

    Germany, that lacked the resources for a long war, failed to achieve a quick victory in the east and eventually collapsed under the pressure of a war of attrition on two fronts, accelerated by a surge of resistance and partisan groups in virtually all occupied countries. Reduced production output and dwindling replacements of casualties as a consequence of massive material warfare and Allied strategic bombing and shortages in fuel and raw materials increasingly prevented the continuation of German offensive. And Blitzkrieg tactics. In contrast, steadily improving Allied cooperative warfare, based on an exponentially growing war industry brought about the inevitable total military defeat for Germany".
    Agree with the quote you provided 100 percent. Common sense says that a two-front war is less preferable. But I do not see anywhere where this expert says Hitler should have delayed his invasion of USSR or pushed it to the summer of 1942 to focus on knocking Britain out of the war.

    My main point is that Hitler did not have the luxury to postpone the invasion of USSR. And the second paragraph of this expert's quote details exactly why: Germany and Japan lacked the production capacity and population to beat USA and USSR in a long war. Essentially, Germany and Japan's only chance was to land a sucker punch and force a surrender early, before their economically and numerically superior foes had a chance to ramp up for war. The German blitzkrieg into USSR was so fast, that on the first day of Operation Barbosa, they were able to obliterate 40 percent of the Red Army's bomber aircraft on the ground before they were even able to take off. Japan tried to follow a similar blueprint with the Pearl Harbor attack. Their objective was to destroy the Pacific fleet but they missed their targets.

    Attached image shows how many tanks USSR and USA produced, once they committed to the effort in 1941. The Allies easily out-produced the Axis. The Axis powers' "sneak attacks" were to incapacitate the enemy, then quickly achieve victory before the enemy could replace their fleet or bomber force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    For the campaign against the Soviet Union, the Germans allotted almost 150 divisions containing a total of about 3,000,000 men. Among these were 19 panzer divisions, and in total the 'Barbarossa' force had about 3,000 tanks, 7,000 artillery pieces and 2,500 aircraft. Such a force would have easily taken full control of the entirety of Europe including Britain, plus North Africa. Imagine the mind boggling addition of resources that would have brought to the German war effort against Russia!
    Moving 3 million troops and tanks to the Eastern Front is doable. Moving that force across the English Channel to launch an offensive? Suicide.

    Most historians agree Sea Lion would have failed regardless because of the weakness of the German Kriegsmarine compared to the Royal Navy.

    Reichsmarschall Hermann Gring, Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, believed the invasion could not succeed and doubted whether the German air force would be able to win unchallenged control of the skies; nevertheless he hoped that an early victory in the Battle of Britain would force the UK government to negotiate, without any need for an invasion. Adolf Galland, commander of Luftwaffe fighters at the time, claimed invasion plans were not serious and that there was a palpable sense of relief in the Wehrmacht when it was finally called off. Generalfeldmarschall Gerd von Rundstedt also took this view and thought that Hitler never seriously intended to invade Britain; he was convinced that the whole thing was a bluff to put pressure on the British government to come to terms following the Fall of France. He observed that Napoleon had failed to invade and the difficulties that confounded him did not appear to have been solved by the Sea Lion planners. In fact, in November 1939, the German naval staff produced a study on the possibility of an invasion of Britain and concluded that it required two preconditions, air and naval superiority, neither of which Germany ever had. Grand Admiral Karl Dnitz believed air superiority was not enough and admitted, "We possessed neither control of the air or the sea; nor were we in any position to gain it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea_Lion..
    Moreover, Stalin was sitting back watching the Western powers destroy themselves, before entering the fray. He likely would have invaded Germany if not in 1942 then probably 1943-1944.

    Stalin always planned to exploit military conflict between the capitalist countries to his advantage. He said as early as 1925 that "Struggles, conflicts and wars among our enemies are...our great ally...and the greatest supporter of our government and our revolution" and "If a war does break out, we will not sit with folded arms we will have to take the field, but we will be last to do so. And we shall do so in order to throw the decisive load on the scale"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy.
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