Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Mursenary]

Jordan Peterson makes an interesting point in a video titled "Hitler was more evil than you think". He says wars are not always about acquiring resources. In this instance he says it may have been more about killing Jews and causing mayhem than winning a war. I am holding Jordan Peterson up as an authority. I do think he makes a interesting point.

Within an hour of reading this post, that exact video showed up on my YouTube feed. The powers that be can make it a little less obvious that they're listening.

[Maxime]

Thanks, they leave it open what to do with sauna (clubs), mongering, etc. It will be different in every region (state), in NRW they don't want any relation (anymore) with the incident rate.

Today more details about all new rules.

Official new rules (Verordnung) are there for NRW:

https://www.land.nrw/pressemitteilun...zierungen-fuer

And.

https://www.land.nrw/media/25554/download?attachment

As of tomorrow Disco's, Clubs etc have to close (Article 5). But. As you can see in Article 4, sex clubs, etc can stay open (for now) under 2 G+ rules.

"(3) Die folgenden Einrichtungen, Angebote und Tätigkeiten theürfen aufgrund der vorliegenden.

Erkenntnisse über die in § 1 Absatz 3 genannten Faktoren vorbehaltlich der nachfolgenden.

Absätze nur noch von immunisierten Personen in Anspruch genommen, besucht oder als Teilnehmenden ausgeübt werden, die zusätzlich über einen negativen Testnachweis I'm Sinne von.

§ 2 Absatz 8 a Satz 1 verfügen müssen:

1. Tanzveranstaltungen einschließlich private Feiern mit Tanz sowie Karnevalsveranstaltungen und vergleichbare Brauchtumsveranstaltungen in Innenräumen.

2. Bordelle, Prostitutionsstätten, Swingerclubs und ähnliche Einrichtungen sowie die Erbringung und Inanspruchnahme sexueller Dienstleistungen außerhalb von Einrichtungen."

[Sirioja]

That's the national policy. But each state can add its own restrictions. Seems like Hessen already place a lower 250 incidence threshold.

It seems that would rule out Sharks in Darmstadt since they currently sitting above 300 incidence.

Good news is that the release says that incidence is going down nationally over the last 3 days. I just don't like how they're still using incidence and not hospital metrics. Omicron has shown to be more transmissible but less virulent so it would be easy for numbers to go up with hospital loads not rising as much.

How can you know about Omicron strength to kill? When delta already killed too many. Who has knowledge about Omicron and vaccine efficiency?

[Mursenary]

Can someone post a link to the incidence page so each city can be looked up to see what level it is at?

https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...3b17327b2bf1d4

[Mursenary]

Come on guys. The best predictor of the future is the past. We all know that if "nightclubs" get shut down, then the FKK "sauna clubs" are going down too. Just like before. We know it. So, may as well get mentally prepared to accept it if and when it happens.

In late summer, nightclubs had to remain closed for longer than the sauna clubs and bars serving food. In Hessen for sure and I believe also in NRW. There is some distinction there. In the US, there is often a distinction for venues that serve food as a certain percentage of their revenue. Strip clubs in my city were allowed to open so long as food sales made up something like a 3rd of their sales.

[Sirioja]

Was listening to a German virologist on DW answering this question incidence vs. Occupancy. He said hospital index is considered acceptable until hospitals start transferring patients. Then if it's like Armageddon and triage kicks the patients out on the streets, the hospital index can no longer be calculated. A side issue is hospital underreporting due to a weak reporting technology, like using outdated fax transmission instead of uniform data streaming or upload etc. As the government must foresee the worst, they are switching to the incidence before occupancy index becomes too problematic.

Some German hospitals had to delay other operations, full under covid.

[BobNSuzy]

I actually think Germany could have invaded Britain with the right tactics and enough submarines to pave the way. But they wanted too much money on useless battleships etc, and didn't focus their efforts well enough.

Jordan Peterson makes an interesting point in a video titled "Hitler was more evil than you think". He says wars are not always about acquiring resources. In this instance he says it may have been more about killing Jews and causing mayhem than winning a war. I am holding Jordan Peterson up as an authority. I do think he makes a interesting point.

[The Cane]

I actually think Germany could have invaded Britain with the right tactics and enough submarines to pave the way. But they wanted too much money on useless battleships etc, and didn't focus their efforts well enough.

Goring assured Hitler that he could bomb Britain into surrender. Well, he was wrong, and Germany ultimately lost the air Battle of Britain. The only way to a German victory was to invade as Britain was already on its knees. But, Hitler chose to put off Operation Sea Lion (invasion of the United Kingdom) in favor of Operation Barbarossa (invasion of the Soviet Union). Fool.

We shall never surrender!

Winston Churchill.

[Mursenary]

Yes I'm never clear what category FKK clubs come under as they aren't nightclubs. I'm also not sure if they would look at incidence rate in Hesse or in say Darmstadt in the case of Sharks.

It seems that's the national policy. States may impose restrictions at a lower incidence, but all agreed to at least the 350 incidence.

[ShooBree]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.20062133v1

Findings Our model for Sweden shows that, under conservative epidemiological parameter estimates, the current Swedish public-health strategy will result in a peak intensive-care load in May that exceeds pre-pandemic capacity by over 40-fold, with a median mortality of 96,000 (95% CI 52,000 to 183,000). The most stringent public-health measures examined are predicted to reduce mortality by approximately three-fold. Intensive-care load at the peak could be reduced by over two-fold with a shorter period at peak pandemic capacity.

[The Cane]

Yes I'm never clear what category FKK clubs come under as they aren't nightclubs. I'm also not sure if they would look at incidence rate in Hesse or in say Darmstadt in the case of Sharks.

Come on guys. The best predictor of the future is the past. We all know that if "nightclubs" get shut down, then the FKK "sauna clubs" are going down too. Just like before. We know it. So, may as well get mentally prepared to accept it if and when it happens.

[Mursenary]

That's the national policy. But each state can add its own restrictions. Seems like Hessen already place a lower 250 incidence threshold.

Never mind, I suck at reading. That's 250 person venue capacity.

https://www.hessen.de/Presse/Hessisc...hutzverordnung

[Sirioja]

Yes I'm never clear what category FKK clubs come under as they aren't nightclubs. I'm also not sure if they would look at incidence rate in Hesse or in say Darmstadt in the case of Sharks.

At the moment, 2 G+ at Sharks with test on the day, not even PCR from previous day, maybe they want to sell 5€ test when I made so many at Sharks on this Summer. At the moment, nobody tell about closing risk, when casting is not so good than on July.

[Saturn11]

Also previous post just assuming they're classifying clubs as "nightclubs. " It says nothing about bars or if they even make that distinction.

https://www.dw.com/en/german-leaders...ted/a-59994235

Yes I'm never clear what category FKK clubs come under as they aren't nightclubs. I'm also not sure if they would look at incidence rate in Hesse or in say Darmstadt in the case of Sharks.

[DrPoon]

I actually think Germany could have invaded Britain with the right tactics and enough submarines to pave the way. But they wanted too much money on useless battleships etc, and didn't focus their efforts well enough.

The Fuhrer made numerous mistakes starting with invading Russia. There was no excuse to violate the initial agreement with Russia.

Also in England, he should have started by sending rifles and ammo and getting the Irish and IRA in Ireland to start a ground war with England wherein the Fuhrer would provide air support coordinating with IRA ground rebels. Then avoid London completely and use incendiary bombs in East England to destroy all their crops to case them to starve. Then drop leaflets to encourage the English subjects to demand their government agree to a truce.

But prior to all of this the Furher should have first rounded up all the Jewish Physicists in Germany. These same Physicists were the ones who escaped to the USA and designed nuclear bomgs for the USA. Then after torturing the Jewish Physicists in Germany and getting on their information, then execute them prior to them being able to escape to the USA. That way the Axis powers would have developed the nuclear bomg and the USA would not have and then the Axis powers could threaten to nuke Washington to extort the USA from entering the war.

Then of course work out some agreement with France to give back their country peacefully in exchange for defending the coastline to prevent the-Day from occurring. Then just be satisfied with 1/2 of Poland and leave the other 1/2 to Russia and that would have been the Axis powers path to victory in WWII.