Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Mr Ho]

If letting half French population getting infected, when nobody is sure about immunity after, some were infected twice, then French doctors plan for about 400000 deaths, when we have around 40000 which is already too many, when Sweden and Stockholm have one of the highest rate, when they kill many old people, when 85% of our dead in France are over 70 yo, when NL prefer to confine now for this second wave when they didn t for first. So, confine in Bavaria, again in France and they should extend to at least 6 weeks for us. Job was more complicated about safety since mid March and will be more and more complicated. Wish can ski for Christmas, when climbed for 5 months and wish for last one tomorrow.

Well if people stopped doing whatever they want during summer holiday travelling to places visiting brothels and mountains and this and that, you could have prevented innocent people from dying by minimize the spread of the virus!

[ExpatLover]

A big part of this rise was so easy to achieve by switching the productions facilities to China mostly, by doing that the US created very strong competitors, Samsung, Huawei, Xiaomi. Were all suppliers for Apple at the beginning, same for the wind industry, for the telecom, for the batteries. Like for other subjects now it is too late for the US probably they will become number 2 very fast if not already done. China have hugely invested in infrastructures (airports, highways, trains) over the last 20 years, in the US the infrastructures like highways, high speed trains. Are terrible, also the school system is a disaster, without speaking about the healthcare, on top of that the new President will be a old guy probably not able to change the things to seriously come back in the race against China.

[Mursenary]

But over time, one can see where people stand, their views on life, how they think -- at least somewhat superficially. I am 100% positive Mursenary and Phallus are not the same; if that means you will accuse me of being a clone of one of them, that is fine too but it is very obvious to anyone reading their comments and interests and other views they are very different.

Thanks. Seems obvious to anyone who approaches with objectivity. Leave it to a conspiracy theorist to only cling to catch words and rely on partial understanding rather than complete comprehension. They lack mental discipline and perhaps even ability to integrate details.

If they can't put up with their mullah and allah ribbed a little, they should have stayed in their homeland ghettos. The weird thing is that at least a majority of the Muslims in France must be aghast at these atrocities committed by their Islamic brothers, but as usual, they always keep quiet but raise their heads only when their beloved prophet is insulted. France should round these barbarians up and ship them back to their homeland. That is one action I would be fully supportive of

Dude, those are pretty Hitler / Trumpish words. Barbarians? Round up? Jewish-Germans and Japanese-Americans were also round up. Never heard such hate speech from you before. Pretty disappointing.

[ExpatLover]

For once, I agree with you 100%. France needs to be tougher. All these Muslims went to France because they wanted to, France did not abduct them from the ghettos they lived in their home countries. If they can't put up with their mullah and allah ribbed a little, they should have stayed in their homeland ghettos. The weird thing is that at least a majority of the Muslims in France must be aghast at these atrocities committed by their Islamic brothers, but as usual, they always keep quiet but raise their heads only when their beloved prophet is insulted. France should round these barbarians up and ship them back to their homeland. That is one action I would be fully supportive of.

I thought god is someone that is supposed to take care of you when you are in trouble, but these idiot barbarians get themselves into trouble trying to protect their god and the dignity of god. What a twisted world they live in.

They went to France to benefit from the number 1 social system in the World. They don't need to work to live in a decent apartment. If France will cut all the social benefits very few migrants will come to France. Same happen in Belgium. There is also the past colonial history of France, for example most of Moroccan have bi nationality. Since 1970 the families have the right to live together that leads to 390000 legal migrants in 2019 + probably illegal migrants around 200000 and all this for decades. Today you must have 10 millions Muslim in France (65 M) the highest ratio in Europe, with less on less integration. But we don t need to worry about all this, it is too late the numbers and the demography are simply making the difference. Most of the French people are extremely concerned about their future in France and 200000 (the richest) are leaving every year. We import poor migrants and export the rich how do you want this to work. With the covid the things are getting worse and worse and when the ECB will start to reduce the quantitative easing (will happen sooner or late) France, Italy, Spain. Will bankrupt, end of the Europe.

[Paulie97]

Whatever, bud. As far as I am concerned, you are just another foreigner wannabe American. Perhaps you should go to Mexico, pay some warlord all your money and sneak into the US in one of those trucks. Then you get to talk. When you get here, pay some taxes, then your views on US politics are worth paying attention to. Till then stick to whatever third world nation that you are currently located in.

At least he's got the lingo down, "libtards," etc. So once he jumps the border he can hit the ground running. Plus he can pick up a Maga hat off Ebay for a dollar or two if he doesn't manage to catch one at a rally.

[Mursenary]

So that is my rant. I wish American would quit complaining about the USA.

I pretty much agree with most of your points.

Supply and demand is definitely the major difference in WG pricing. Europe has a much higher supply of WGs, as well as South America and SE Asia. The similarities of pricing in German WGs as compared to the American scene is noted, with the remaining price difference able to be attributed to German girls being limited by the supply of Eastern Europeans, and probably also the legal status.

With regards to comparisons and critique of the US, I know that, economically, the US has provided for a comparatively pretty easy journey. However, I must point out that when non-Trumpy Americans self criticize, we usually make comparisons to similar social-economic countries. Yes there is a net preference for immigration to the US but how much of that is from poor South and Central American populations. I believe the "city upon a hill" image of the US has eroded in the minds of many of our peers in Western and central Europe. I've even heard from the Romanian WGs numerous times, "before I want to go to America, but not anymore."

For those of us on this forum, we have been lucky to have made our lives while the US had been on the rise. What many fear and is the point of criticism and concern, which seems to become more evident every day, is that our nation is on the decline. Entry level earnings versus cost of living today just do not compute. Young Americans have to balance higher cost of living to comparatively lower income ratios in the past with the fact that Americans have to provide for a higher proportion their own healthcare and retirement without the safety net that many of our western European peers enjoy. Add in student loans for white collar and professional occupations and we have a recipe for current and future stagnation. In the past, we have benefited greatly from the immigration of foreign professionals and white collar workers but our current declining standard of living with increasing cost will stifle that. What remains is the blue collar jobs cash grab by immigrants from poor countries. We still have the best university system in the world to attract the best and brightest, but I fear that with the current declining situation, a higher proportion of talent will just complete their training and move right back to their own nations.

[Paulie97]

The only ones I can think of as being clones are these Hammer / Shoe / Sobe / other assorted types. Not that I am accusing them of being actual clone accounts but the only thing they post is alt right drivel and that could come from the same bot.

No probably not the same, but there's common denominators in IQs in the lower to mid 70's range and cheerleading for Agent Orange from some far away land.

[ShooBree]

Whatever, bud. As far as I am concerned, you are just another foreigner wannabe American. Perhaps you should go to Mexico, pay some warlord all your money and sneak into the US in one of those trucks. Then you get to talk. When you get here, pay some taxes, then your views on US politics are worth paying attention to. Till then stick to whatever third world nation that you are currently located in..

Wow, I'm so sorry. I hope that you get the help that you need. It pains me to see that some people still suffer from serious mental health problems.

[Mursenary]

Here you are yet again with more excuses. You sure are determined to prove me right. NJ, NY, Massachusetts and Connecticut are still the top 4 with most deaths per capita. Embarrassing for the Democratic Party.

They have it under worse control than Sweden, Sweden, a country whose approach was so heavily criticized and ridiculed! I'm dying of laughter, not only do they have a higher number of deaths per capita, it's also increasing faster!

The moving seven day average of yesterday: Sweden 4 deaths, NY 15, NJ 11, Massachusetts 21 and Connecticut 5.

Speaking of basic statistics. Why confound total seven day average deaths with per capita deaths.

In any case, care to list the current 7 day average of Texas, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, North Carolina for comparison? Oh right, it doesn't fit your narrative.

[Pessimist]

If the immigrant is unhappy in France, why not just move to where he is happy? Or go back to his origin country where his religion is not mocked by others? You can't move to a new country and expect them to change their own culture or religion to your liking. France was way too tolerant with immigrants for too long, and this is exactly what happens when you lose control of your own country for too long. Cutting other people's head off is brutal terrorism and should never be condoned. Never. Never ever. Period.

For once, I agree with you 100%. France needs to be tougher. All these Muslims went to France because they wanted to, France did not abduct them from the ghettos they lived in their home countries. If they can't put up with their mullah and allah ribbed a little, they should have stayed in their homeland ghettos. The weird thing is that at least a majority of the Muslims in France must be aghast at these atrocities committed by their Islamic brothers, but as usual, they always keep quiet but raise their heads only when their beloved prophet is insulted. France should round these barbarians up and ship them back to their homeland. That is one action I would be fully supportive of.

I thought god is someone that is supposed to take care of you when you are in trouble, but these idiot barbarians get themselves into trouble trying to protect their god and the dignity of god. What a twisted world they live in.

[Mursenary]

Here you are yet again with more excuses. You sure are determined to prove me right. NJ, NY, Massachusetts and Connecticut are still the top 4 with most deaths per capita. Embarrassing for the Democratic Party.

They have it under worse control than Sweden, Sweden, a country whose approach was so heavily criticized and ridiculed! I'm dying of laughter, not only do they have a higher number of deaths per capita, it's also increasing faster!

The moving seven day average of yesterday: Sweden 4 deaths, NY 15, NJ 11, Massachusetts 21 and Connecticut 5.

Speaking of basic statistics. Why confound total seven day average deaths with per capita deaths.

In any case, care to list the 7 day average of Texas, Georgia, Florida for comparison?

[Pessimist]

You're a typical Democrat, a ignorant and arrogant know-it-all that knows nothing. Why do you libtards hate free speech so much? Here you are, in the German part of an international forum telling others what they are allowed to write about. If you want me to take you somewhat seriously you should have written your nonsense in usasexguide and stayed away from ISG.

I've lived in Colorado and Silicon Valley, but sure I know nothing about USA. My family and I have contributed more to the American economy than you ever will.

"The ugly American", I've never liked that expression but damn son, you're pretty much the definition of that expression.

I could call you a idiot or a moron, but I'm sure that you've already heard that a thousand times before so I will take the high road.

Whatever, bud. As far as I am concerned, you are just another foreigner wannabe American. Perhaps you should go to Mexico, pay some warlord all your money and sneak into the US in one of those trucks. Then you get to talk. When you get here, pay some taxes, then your views on US politics are worth paying attention to. Till then stick to whatever third world nation that you are currently located in.

[Mongerer88]

Compelling data graphic. On initial inspection, there seems to be strong correlation. But upon closer inspection, the data was graphed on a base 10 logarithmic scale making it appear as if countries like Romania and Switzerland shared a similar income range as compared to say Laos and Cambodia where Romania should be. Same goes for the vertical axis where countries like Germany and the USA share a similar region in per capita infection. The graph is thus a bit misleading. But it's fair to say that some degree of correlation exist between extremely poor or rich countries and covid spread. What it fails to show is useful correlation when comparing the middle 80%. Why are similar GDP per capita countries such as Japan and the UK so different in infection rates? Why are Poland and so Brazil so different?

I was under the impression that he was arguing against the political system and cultural issues. Where did cost of living come from? Singapore, Qatar, and Norway have some of the highest median incomes in the world but do you want to live under the socially oppressive Singapore government? The culture of Qatar? Or live next to the social weirdos that come out of Norway? Living in the dark half the year makes for poor social development.

The second part of what I wrote was my continued bewilderment at what Phallus writes.

He started off long ago by proposing that the United States adopt an FKK system.

He has argued that public ownership of brothels would be beneficial.

And that sex workers themselves represent unskilled labor and that there prices in the USA Are artificially high.

And he argues that the political system in the United States is idiotic and a failure in virtually all regards, including with respect to Covid-19, in comparison to the systems of other countries. I believe he has argued also that the economic system in the USA Is a failure and only benefits the Elites.

So I just keep getting more and more confused, although I do believe he has some points with respect to the idiotic political system.

If the political system is idiotic, why involve it in the commercial sex trade at all? It can be argued that the current USA Environment with respect to commercial sex is one of the best examples of a free market ever. A person can contact the seller of sex directly through thousands of independent escort websites, twitter feeds, and Seeking Arrangement ads. The prices are indeed very high, but there are fewer middlemen. I don't know how one argues price distortion in that circumstance. She is selling it and the customer is buying it.

One of the primary reasons that sex is much, much less expensive in Germany, and to a lesser extent in Spain and Portugal, is the influx of Romanian imports into Germany, and from South America into Iberia. The Iberian ladies price match with their South American sisters and live in harmony. The German ladies are less inclined to do so, and when American independent escorts are compared in prices to the German independent escorts, the price difference is not as pronounced.

So the price differences between this horrible United States and Europe is heavily weighted toward importation of low-priced labor and the willingness of the government to allow large facilities where the imported labor, which he considers unskilled, to fuck a lot of guys in a relatively short period of time. When you view it in those terms, the political system in the USA Is less idiotic than he lets on. Germany is unique in its system, and I think the worldwide trend is away from its system of allowing imported sex labor to be performed at fixed location facilities.

I am not trying to disrespect it, so I simply asked him the question. If Germany, Austria and Switzerland is Nirvana, why not move there?

I was confused, and still am, as to why public investment in facilities where this supposedly unskilled labor performs its services would be beneficial. I am also confused as to why the labor is even considered unskilled. We all spend a lot of time discussing and reviewing women who provide commercial sex, so I simply don't view them as unskilled. I truly don't give a shit who picked the tomato on my sandwich, but the last lady who performed oral sex on me is truly meaningful to me. She charged a lot, but I was okay with paying the price she asked.

Personally, I think most political and economic systems work pretty damn well, and represent what the majority of the populace wants. So I don't feel the need to diss the United States in post after post. I accept things. The USA has high commercial sex prices if done in a manner that minimizes the risk of arrest. It also has a relatively high Covid-19 rate, but there is plenty of freedom and that has a price. As to it not having a lot of hospital beds, does it really owe me that?

No, neither the country nor its politicians owe me a damn thing, and neither do the women there owe me inexpensive sex. The market determines this stuff.

I don't spend my life complaining about things I can't control, which includes the price of local sex, the Covid-19 positivity rate, or who the other 330 million people vote for.

We can all try to emigrate / immigrate or whatever the word is if it becomes unbearable. But guess what, it has been my observation that there are more people trying to get into the USA Than get out of it. So I doubt that the grass is really greener on the other side. Most guys in the USA Enjoy the occasional trip to Europe, Canada, Asia, or Mexico / South America and the less expensive sex that comes with it, but when push comes to shove, few of them are looking to really leave.

And one of the reasons why, is that just like the American hookers, they get paid way more to do the same damn job in the USA Than they would outside of it. And there are a lot more everyday luxuries to enjoy in the USA Than outside of it.

So that is my rant. I wish American would quit complaining about the USA.

[Pessimist]

Looks like you read only part of my that post you responded to, or you read it in a hurry. You may want to read it again.

Or we are writing in different versions of English that means different to you vs me.

Thanks.

I did read the full essay but responded to the part of that comment that I cared to respond. Is that OK with you? You responded to my own comment by ignoring everything in there and accused me of not reading your entire response -- whereas you responded to not a single thing in my own comment.

And as usual, you skipped the actual questions in my text. That must have been the 100th time. Why did you not ask for rounding up all Asians in all the Western societies and ship them out if you felt any Asian inside any club was a mortal threat? How was that logical?

[Pessimist]

Well, sure sounds like Phallus Maximus is another one of Mursenary's clone accounts. Aside from that, it is too much to read. But of course it is a dangerous virus. Not to mention that 10% of the infected get long term problems it seems. But what do you know when it's a biological weapon!

I personally told a few people: 'lock the fuck down' (as I understood immediately that this was a bio weapon), and we got away with it better than the swedes. Not surprisingly in retrospect though, as anything polar opposite to the swedish model in anything is usually the best way to do things.

When I began posting here approximately 18 months ago, I was continuously hounded by 3 senior members at that time that I was a fake, sham, clone account; I was accused of being one of the numerous avatars of the same person, others being Gino, Tintin, some others I am forgetting. Gino and I pretty much never agree on anything, and it was a preposterous accusation. Two of those senior members tag-teamed in claiming that I was not even an American but was a Brit in fact because I used "punter" as opposed to "monger" in a comment. First of all, I think being a Brit is a cool thing, but I didn't realize I was in a forum swimming with such linguistic experts who could read my innermost persona and my exterior characteristics with such precision based on stray comments I wrote on a sex forum with less thought than I give to what flavored bagel I should eat for breakfast. In any case, since a verified passport is not required to post here, what fucking difference does it make to them if I was a Brit faking as an American? Thankfully, they ceased their horrendous campaign after a few months and now I don't even see them posting here any longer (except one).

So, I am sensitive to this charge of one member randomly accusing another of being a clone of some other member (s). I don't know how long Mursenary has been posting here, nor do I know the same about Phallus. I began noticing their comments only when I got into modest disagreements with both (funny how that works). But over time, one can see where people stand, their views on life, how they think -- at least somewhat superficially. I am 100% positive Mursenary and Phallus are not the same; if that means you will accuse me of being a clone of one of them, that is fine too but it is very obvious to anyone reading their comments and interests and other views they are very different. Phallus, I view him as being very libertarian. Pardon me if I characterized you wrong. He almost does not seem to have much interest in these political discussions and pandemic topics. He is almost similar to PolyAmorist, except PolyA has a biting sarcastic tongue and a sharp wit (not that Phallus doesn't but PolyA is clearly a talented writer). Mursenary and McAdonis often agree on many topics but most definitely not the same either. I myself am 100% positive I am not Gino. It would be like matter and antimatter coming together haha. I really love reading the views of Mongerer88, Tank Tank, and Bfsie is a very helpful gentleman.

The only ones I can think of as being clones are these Hammer / Shoe / Sobe / other assorted types. Not that I am accusing them of being actual clone accounts but the only thing they post is alt right drivel and that could come from the same bot. Far be it from me to say any such thing about other posters, but there is very little differentiation between any dozens of their posts -- "Covid is a nothingburger, masks are useless, you are all foolish unless you agree with every word I say, Trump is great, Sweden is great, vaccines suck, Fauci sucks, you have no guts, you are all pussies and wussies, blah blah" (I am sure the good people of Sweden are recoiling in horror at being lumped next to Trump in the same basket). I was also very positive that an infrequent poster called Apolloyon (something like that) was a clone account of one of the aforementioned 3 senior members that were always attacking me -- if I am correct in my suspicion it would be so ironic because their entire agenda was to "clean up" the site of any clone accounts while they probably used a clone account in that quest.