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  1. #8036
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I prefer to watch 4 different French TV information channels with journalists all over the world, or listen to 3 radios in car, then my mind try to think and select information, rather than fakes on internet.
    Sure, why don't you say who those 4 French TV channels are, after all they hold universal truth for you. One could say that you are "drinking the TV" or "drinking radio." Those 4 French TV channels, they have an internet presence too. They say the same thing on TV and in their internet articles. Is the same information true if somebody reads it in front of a TV camera but false if it is on a website of the same TV channel? The link that you dismissed as "drinking the internet" was from the official German Federal Office of Statistics. If their information is printed on paper, is it more reliable than the same information on their website?

    I totally agree that there is plenty of BS on the internet, after all you are a very prolific internet BS producer. Dismissing official or trusted sources of information because unemployed dog portrait painters post BS on facebook is just stupid.

  2. #8035
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I prefer to watch 4 different French TV information channels with journalists all over the world, or listen to 3 radios in car, then my mind try to think and select information, rather than fakes on internet. I didn't hear Angela telling all in fine in Germany, nor in Bavaria, nor in NRW. And it was before Omicron.
    You do realize that saying "The internet" is like saying "the books," or "the radio," or "the TV" right? Many sources on a medium.

    Boomer moment I suppose.

  3. #8034
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Week ending 31 January: 9.1 admissions / million / week.

    Week ending 14 November: 6.3 admissions / million / week (down from 7.1 on 07. November).
    That should have read per million per day.

  4. #8033
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    And 539 tested negative but who were in contact for hours, returned home, so SA Omicron may be everywhere in Western EU, UK, probably Switzerland now. Also in Canada, Hong Kong, Israel which close country. Wait and see for strongest versus delta, maybe SA will marry Indian? For Winter wedding when cold, less vitamin the in body, vaccine only efficient for tomorrow.
    Japan also closed. Bad for Asians specialist WGs.

  5. #8032
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    An intelligent person would have looked at that link and could argue several things:

    - the data is old.

    - the data doesn't show intensive care occupancy, which is what counts.

    You just dismiss everything that doesn't suit what is made up in your, let's call it brain (and I am being very generous here) as "drinking the internet" regardless of the source. There is a difference for example between a study published in the Lancet and the facebook post of an unemployed dog portrait painter.
    I prefer to watch 4 different French TV information channels with journalists all over the world, or listen to 3 radios in car, then my mind try to think and select information, rather than fakes on internet. I didn't hear Angela telling all in fine in Germany, nor in Bavaria, nor in NRW. And it was before Omicron.

  6. #8031
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Had Hitler listened to his generals who were more seasoned in combat tactics than him he would not have fought a war on two fronts. He could have left Russia for another time and concentrated all his forces on Western Europe. Also had he not regarded Britain as a possible ally he could have wiped out the British forces at Dunkirk which is what some of his top military men wanted. Instead he allowed them to escape back to England. Having destroyed England's army he would then have control of all of Western Europe and then turn his sights on Russia. In such a scenario there was no possibility of America invading Germany. America would have concentrated on Japan. America would obviously have beaten Japan. With a one front war of the German controlled Western Europe against Communist Russia what would America have done?
    Can only be happy and thanks US he lost when crazy. Germans are so shameful about him. Our Napoleon who dreamed about Europe before Hitler, also lost in Russia where worst enemy is cold in Winter. Not many are able to be strong in cold.

  7. #8030
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    The Lancet? They have zero cred after their lab-leak cover-up. I'm not usually so strident, but when it comes to Chinese culpability, I will make an exception. There should be a world-wide economic boycott in place, but our so-called leaders in the West just sit on their asses. Or in Joe's case, collect their 10 percent.
    First, The Lancet is both a publication and a database of other journals. The two should not be confounded, and articles found in the Lancet database can be found in databases in a plethora of other institutional libraries.

    Second, at risk of being accused a CCP sympathizer, I make no claims toward China but am making a claim in support of the scientific minded people who wrote a letter published in the Lancet journal.

    By cover up, do you mean the publication of this open letter?

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l.../PIIS0140-6736(20) 30418-9/ fulltext.

    I don't see anything about the above letter that constitutes a leak cover up.

    After much pressure they released another open letter that reaffirmed their beliefs but supported keeping an open air of debate.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l.../PIIS0140-6736(21) 01419-7/ fulltext.

    Not sure, you should be blaming neutral parties for "covering up" something just because your beliefs don't align. Not saying your beliefs are wrong, but accusing the scientists of covering up something that had little evidence then and where there is still an absence of a smoking gun now is a bit unwarranted. They were doing what scientists are supposed to do, promote examination of facts not conjecture. We need that more than ever.

  8. #8029
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    I predict the USA would have used nuclear weapons in Europe which is a very terrible alternative historical timeline.
    That is a good observation. The post you are responding to is interesting also.

  9. #8028
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    They did win in the East (which lent to their arrogance that they could do it again in WW2), but they did not win in the critical West (which was more important since it was the Western powers that had the ability to hand Germany defeat). The West was a stalemate until the United States entered the conflict, which was the beginning of the end for Germany. Be that as it may, Germany (and Japan) proved that they have what it takes to come back after such devastating defeats and be major winners in peaceful economic competition. And it is China that has surpassed both of them, currently nipping at the heels of the United States. Will there be war? I hope not for the sake of all mankind. Legalize prostitution and make love (well at least fuck), not war!
    Hitler had brokered a pact with Stalin in 1939, so that he could focus on the Western allies first. By June of 1940, after only six weeks, France, Belgium, and Holland fell, leaving only Britain to defend Western Europe.

    This victory over the French convinced Hitler he could achieve the same quick and decisive outcome in Russia. So in June 1941, Hitler betrayed the Nazi-Soviet pact, and launched the largest invasion in history. Three quarters of the German army fought on the eastern front. And as much 80 percent of the Wehrmacht's casualties occurred there as well.

    The decision to invade Russia was made prior to the USA officially joining the conflict in December 1941. Had USA not entered the conflict, it is conceivable that the Nazis could have achieved victory in both Britain and Russia. Especially if Japan had attacked Russian forces in Siberia like Hitler had hoped for. Instead the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

    https://www.historyextra.com/period/...atest-mistake/

  10. #8027
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your extremely irrelevant and weird post.
    Your thank you note is also weird and irrelevant so that makes us even.

  11. #8026
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Had Hitler listened to his generals who were more seasoned in combat tactics than him he would not have fought a war on two fronts. He could have left Russia for another time and concentrated all his forces on Western Europe. Also had he not regarded Britain as a possible ally he could have wiped out the British forces at Dunkirk which is what some of his top military men wanted. Instead he allowed them to escape back to England. Having destroyed England's army he would then have control of all of Western Europe and then turn his sights on Russia. In such a scenario there was no possibility of America invading Germany. America would have concentrated on Japan. America would obviously have beaten Japan. With a one front war of the German controlled Western Europe against Communist Russia what would America have done?
    Drop a nuclear bomb on Berlin?

  12. #8025
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Had Hitler listened to his generals who were more seasoned in combat tactics than him he would not have fought a war on two fronts. He could have left Russia for another time and concentrated all his forces on Western Europe. Also had he not regarded Britain as a possible ally he could have wiped out the British forces at Dunkirk which is what some of his top military men wanted. Instead he allowed them to escape back to England. Having destroyed England's army he would then have control of all of Western Europe and then turn his sights on Russia. In such a scenario there was no possibility of America invading Germany. America would have concentrated on Japan. America would obviously have beaten Japan. With a one front war of the German controlled Western Europe against Communist Russia what would America have done?
    I predict the USA would have used nuclear weapons in Europe which is a very terrible alternative historical timeline.

  13. #8024
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    And Nazis would have won second WW without US, when US are made of many Europeans, millions of past slaves, immigrants from Asia, Latin America.
    Had Hitler listened to his generals who were more seasoned in combat tactics than him he would not have fought a war on two fronts. He could have left Russia for another time and concentrated all his forces on Western Europe. Also had he not regarded Britain as a possible ally he could have wiped out the British forces at Dunkirk which is what some of his top military men wanted. Instead he allowed them to escape back to England. Having destroyed England's army he would then have control of all of Western Europe and then turn his sights on Russia. In such a scenario there was no possibility of America invading Germany. America would have concentrated on Japan. America would obviously have beaten Japan. With a one front war of the German controlled Western Europe against Communist Russia what would America have done?

  14. #8023
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    An intelligent person would have looked at that link and could argue several things:

    - the data is old.

    - the data doesn't show intensive care occupancy, which is what counts.

    You just dismiss everything that doesn't suit what is made up in your, let's call it brain (and I am being very generous here) as "drinking the internet" regardless of the source. There is a difference for example between a study published in the Lancet and the facebook post of an unemployed dog portrait painter.
    Thanks for pointing out that error with the old date on my part. That data was from 5 February showing 77% total Hospital occupancy.

    Most recent data provided by the EuroCDC:

    ICU Total Patients

    05 February: 4066 Patients.

    21 November: 3655 patients.

    Less ICU patients than when old data was reported.

    General hospital admissions

    Week ending 31 January: 9.1 admissions / million / week.

    Week ending 14 November: 6.3 admissions / million / week (down from 7.1 on 07. November).

    Data Source (ECDC):

    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/public...pancy-covid-19

    Direct data on Excel:

    https://opendata.ecdc.europa.eu/covi...s/csv/data.csv

    Point is, compared to 77% occupancy in February, with less patients, hospitals aren't full in Germany.

  15. #8022
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    An intelligent person would have looked at that link and could argue several things:

    - the data is old.

    - the data doesn't show intensive care occupancy, which is what counts.

    You just dismiss everything that doesn't suit what is made up in your, let's call it brain (and I am being very generous here) as "drinking the internet" regardless of the source. There is a difference for example between a study published in the Lancet and the facebook post of an unemployed dog portrait painter.
    The Lancet? They have zero cred after their lab-leak cover-up. I'm not usually so strident, but when it comes to Chinese culpability, I will make an exception. There should be a world-wide economic boycott in place, but our so-called leaders in the West just sit on their asses. Or in Joe's case, collect their 10 percent.

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