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  1. #8054
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    NRW just had their press conference with (possible) new Corona rules. They will detail it tomorrow and formalize it the day after, but it seems that not only 2 G /2 G+ rules will be expanded, also clubs (and disco's, etc) in NRW are likely to close.
    Then bad luck for GT Oceans.

  2. #8053
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    UK, Belgium, NL, CZ, etc are already discouraged to go to CH (test + quarantaine for EVERYONE, also people who are 2 G compliant! So let's hope Germany will not follow this same rules.

    Spain starts to do the same (for people from UK), etc, so hurry if you still can!

    BTW, was in German club few days ago, and (almost) everywhere they use 2 G+ now, so Vaccinated / Cured PLUS negative test is needed to enter. Result: much less men and girls are about to take an early Christmas break.
    NRW just had their press conference with (possible) new Corona rules. They will detail it tomorrow and formalize it the day after, but it seems that not only 2 G /2 G+ rules will be expanded, also clubs (and disco's, etc) in NRW are likely to close.

  3. #8052
    German scientists made the nuke for the USA by the way. As always, there are far more behind the official story than what anyone here knows. Always that is the case. Most wars are pre-planned.

  4. #8051
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Had Hitler listened to his generals who were more seasoned in combat tactics than him he would not have fought a war on two fronts. He could have left Russia for another time and concentrated all his forces on Western Europe. Also had he not regarded Britain as a possible ally he could have wiped out the British forces at Dunkirk which is what some of his top military men wanted. Instead he allowed them to escape back to England. Having destroyed England's army he would then have control of all of Western Europe and then turn his sights on Russia. In such a scenario there was no possibility of America invading Germany. America would have concentrated on Japan. America would obviously have beaten Japan. With a one front war of the German controlled Western Europe against Communist Russia what would America have done?
    Only if Germany had caught some ideas from the winter war in Finland. Cause damn how little they knew of winter warfare!

  5. #8050
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    An intelligent person would have looked at that link and could argue several things:

    - the data is old.

    - the data doesn't show intensive care occupancy, which is what counts.

    You just dismiss everything that doesn't suit what is made up in your, let's call it brain (and I am being very generous here) as "drinking the internet" regardless of the source. There is a difference for example between a study published in the Lancet and the facebook post of an unemployed dog portrait painter.
    Yet you post a link to me dated 8th November? What data was old you say?

  6. #8049
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Israel, a top vaccination country (including boosters), seems to have come down from their September peaks quite nicely.
    LOL, you are really quoting that deaf link he made which is more than 3 weeks old?

  7. #8048
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    If they never dropped it on Japan then Japan would have caused China never to be a world power and we would never have had Communist China as a problem and never would have had coronavirus created either.
    And Japan would have been the undisputed King of the far east with a modern military, national singularity that western nations cam only dream of, a belief in the superiority of their people, and access to every precious metal on earth. Yeah,

    I'm sure nothing bad would have came out of an unchecked Japanese empire.

  8. #8047
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    No control on internet: many fakes and bullshits, information not accurate on the day. Just for your information, things are getting worst and worst in Germany, even before Omicron impact, when Olaf Scholtz will be soon after Angela, big work to come for him from NRW?
    Worse in Germany? No shit, of course.

    Hospitals full? Not yet. Far from it.

  9. #8046

    Conceivable

    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Hitler had brokered a pact with Stalin in 1939, so that he could focus on the Western allies first. By June of 1940, after only six weeks, France, Belgium, and Holland fell, leaving only Britain to defend Western Europe.

    This victory over the French convinced Hitler he could achieve the same quick and decisive outcome in Russia. So in June 1941, Hitler betrayed the Nazi-Soviet pact, and launched the largest invasion in history. Three quarters of the German army fought on the eastern front. And as much 80 percent of the Wehrmacht's casualties occurred there as well.

    The decision to invade Russia was made prior to the USA officially joining the conflict in December 1941. Had USA not entered the conflict, it is conceivable that the Nazis could have achieved victory in both Britain and Russia. Especially if Japan had attacked Russian forces in Siberia like Hitler had hoped for. Instead the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

    https://www.historyextra.com/period/...atest-mistake/
    If, if, if! Could have, would have, should have. Had, had not. Reminds me of an argument I had with a friend once. Germany had the best military in the entire world during WW2 he raised his voice! Oh yes. Well. The best lost! And thank God for that! Germany is now a kinder, gentler nation where a Japanese guy like Mr. Ho can go get his arse licked LOLOLOL!

  10. #8045
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Sure, why don't you say who those 4 French TV channels are, after all they hold universal truth for you. One could say that you are "drinking the TV" or "drinking radio." Those 4 French TV channels, they have an internet presence too. They say the same thing on TV and in their internet articles. Is the same information true if somebody reads it in front of a TV camera but false if it is on a website of the same TV channel? The link that you dismissed as "drinking the internet" was from the official German Federal Office of Statistics. If their information is printed on paper, is it more reliable than the same information on their website?

    I totally agree that there is plenty of BS on the internet, after all you are a very prolific internet BS producer. Dismissing official or trusted sources of information because unemployed dog portrait painters post BS on facebook is just stupid.
    TF1, France TV, BFM TV, LCI, RMC, Europe 1, France inter, for information, daily. I m fully sure much more reliable than internet, at least about EU, covid. Other channels for sports like Eurosport or Canal +, or music like Oui FM. When you don't sleep much, you have more time than others, more than 20 hours per day. There are controls on TV or radio when no control on internet. We got a French I think ex baker, telling HIV don't exist, if you have a arm cut, no problem a new one will grow, having 500000 followers, making money from his bullshits, I can't compete for followers even I already have too many. I don't hear Germany is fine about covid like they seem to hear in US when they read from beginning of the year. I wonder why they cancelled big money Munich Christmas market and maybe not so far from Winter lockdown, like 1 year ago, when SA Omicron just arrived, not spreading yet.

  11. #8044
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    No control on internet: many fakes and bullshits, information not accurate on the day. Just for your information, things are getting worst and worst in Germany, even before Omicron impact, when Olaf Scholtz will be soon after Angela, big work to come for him from NRW?
    Except for when I post internet data from sources like the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control.

    You are speaking in generalities out of stubbornness.

    You already mentioned that you select your television sources, same for internet sources. Do you trust all television sources?

    OK. Boomer.

  12. #8043
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Conflict of interest of some authors was not disclosed. It's a valid point.

    In general, the lab leak theory was for a long time dismissed as xenophobic and so on.

    I was drinking the internet here: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...id-19s-origins.
    For sure, the xenophobia narrative was unnecessary. I guess the anti-conspiracy theory point was my take home message.

    Concerns of conflicts of interest is fair so I'll step back and agree that the Lancet statement contributed to shushing further probing into a very valid concern that the origin was due to a lab leak in Wuhan. But the fact that long-term covid 19 antibodies (IgG) were already found in donated blood without case incidence in the United States back in December 2019 gives me pause regarding the lab leak theory. Long term antibodies in Dec 2019 means that exposure to a spike protein began in the western hemisphere way before the Wuhan outbreak. Seems to me that there was a less virulent or non virulent strain floating around the human population prior to the outbreak.

    https://academic.oup.com/cid/article.../e1004/6012472

    But to the original point of the Lancet being discredited, I will redirect to the difference between their role in publishing research versus publishing editorials and public statements. I think your original statement alluded to the difference between referencing random internet articles versus referencing published peer reviewed sources.

  13. #8042
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    You guys are not thinking. The US would never have dropped a nuclear bomb on Germany / Europe. The result would have been communist Russia being dominant in the region with Communism taking over the whole of Western Europe in addition to Eastern Europe. The US hates Communists more than Nazis.
    If they never dropped it on Japan then Japan would have caused China never to be a world power and we would never have had Communist China as a problem and never would have had coronavirus created either.

  14. #8041
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Can only be happy and thanks US he lost when crazy. Germans are so shameful about him. Our Napoleon who dreamed about Europe before Hitler, also lost in Russia where worst enemy is cold in Winter. Not many are able to be strong in cold.
    The military creates empires. The greatest military men in history were Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Pompei and Genghis Khan with special mention of Attila the Hun and Napoleon Bonaparte. The greatest military men with the exception of Hannibal made their countries control the greatest empires of their time. Hannibal fought arguably the greatest empire of all time (the Romans). Napoleon made the mistake of fighting wars on many fronts instead of conquering then consolidating.

    Every European country had their moments of greatness. Greece and Rome in ancient times. With the 'discovery' of the New World Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and Britain saw their periods of greatness. France's time came with the ascendency of Napoleon who blew his chances of becoming emperor of the world.

    Germany's moment of greatness began at the dawn of the 20th century. They were the most powerful country in the world then. They lost the first world war through bad tactics and sheer force of numbers. Hitler's oratory rallied the German people into the second world war. However the extreme racists, namely Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler were motivated by emotion. BTW, none of those racists were military men. Hitler was little more than a private in World War I. Had they been killed somehow during the war but before the invasion of Russia and had the much decorated Hermann Goering taken over, Germany would have had a better chance at overcoming Europe.

  15. #8040
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    I predict the USA would have used nuclear weapons in Europe which is a very terrible alternative historical timeline.
    You guys are not thinking. The US would never have dropped a nuclear bomb on Germany / Europe. The result would have been communist Russia being dominant in the region with Communism taking over the whole of Western Europe in addition to Eastern Europe. The US hates Communists more than Nazis.

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