Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[ScatManDoo]

Comparing the Nordic countries to the Nordic countries is far from "cherry-picking," but is simply the proper way to do analysis. That's given that the logistics and demographics are so similar. You perpetually refuse do that though as it betrays your country's gross failures. I'm surprised your neighbors started letting you cross the border again. You are lucky.

When all else fails run to the ad hominem, all while my questions are completely avoided. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

And yea, three months ago you posted an article related to a non peer viewed "study" from some fringe scientists, three or four of them that claimed herd immunity with Covid is achieved at 20%. You then extrapolated that to Sweden saying you were almost there. Okay then if that is so then why have daily case counts been spiking through the roof there recently? That question was avoided entirely also. All you did was cry about CNN and Democrats. Waaa Waaa the election is over, but that has nothing to do with the price of rice in China. You quite simply are a big cry baby, constantly complaining about how everyone here is picking on you. But you have no ability to have a legitimate rational discussion, thus the criticisms. LOL.

Paulie is exactly correct.

Sweden's refusal to lockdown has proven to be a big failure.

Their Covid problem is far more out of control that the situation in just about all of their Nordic neighbors. People have died in Sweden that didn't need to based on the superior results of their immediate neighbors (who are using better, more effective, strategies).

[ShooBree]

Comparing the Nordic countries to the Nordic countries is far from "cherry-picking," but is simply the proper way to do analysis. That's given that the logistics and demographics are so similar. You perpetually refuse do that though as it betrays your country's gross failures. I'm surprised your neighbors started letting you cross the border again. You are lucky.

When all else fails run to the ad hominem, all while my questions are completely avoided. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

And yea, three months ago you posted an article related to a non peer viewed "study" from some fringe scientists, three or four of them that claimed herd immunity with Covid is achieved at 20%. You then extrapolated that to Sweden saying you were almost there. Okay then if that is so then why have daily case counts been spiking through the roof there recently? That question was avoided entirely also. All you did was cry about CNN and Democrats. Waaa Waaa the election is over, but that has nothing to do with the price of rice in China. You quite simply are a big cry baby, constantly complaining about how everyone here is picking on you. But you have no ability to have a legitimate rational discussion, thus the criticisms. LOL.

As always you avoided big parts of my reply and went straight ahead to defend your cherry-picking and concentrated on making childish personal attacks against me. The ugly American strikes again.

[Paulie97]

I will not entertain your cherry-picking.

Comparing the Nordic countries to the Nordic countries is far from "cherry-picking," but is simply the proper way to do analysis. That's given that the logistics and demographics are so similar. You perpetually refuse do that though as it betrays your country's gross failures. I'm surprised your neighbors started letting you cross the border again. You are lucky.

you're also absolutely clueless about the world outside of USA. You represent the worst of USA. The ignorance, arrogance and rudeness.

When all else fails run to the ad hominem, all while my questions are completely avoided. LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

And yea, three months ago you posted an article related to a non peer viewed "study" from some fringe scientists, three or four of them that claimed herd immunity with Covid is achieved at 20%. You then extrapolated that to Sweden saying you were almost there. Okay then if that is so then why have daily case counts been spiking through the roof there recently? That question was avoided entirely also. All you did was cry about CNN and Democrats. Waaa Waaa the election is over, but that has nothing to do with the price of rice in China. You quite simply are a big cry baby, constantly complaining about how everyone here is picking on you. But you have no ability to have a legitimate rational discussion, thus the criticisms. LOL.

[Sirioja]

NL didn't confine for first wave, but did for second, not to kill too many people, when small Sweden killed many old on first wave. Killing Thanksgiving in US. Third wave in South Korea. Let s see vaccine effects in UK which wanted to rush first.

Russia and China started to vaccine, but we won t know the truth about risks there, when some Chinese are telling Chinese covid deaths figures are wrong, when they are not arrested because trying to tell the truth.

[ShooBree]

But their demographics and logistics are plenty different than Sweden, just like those South American countries. Just grow a pair and compare your country Sweden to your Nordic neighbors. Explain why your per capita death rates are drastically higher. Explain why daily cases are shooting through the roof at present, even though your claimed there months ago that herd immunity is reached at 20%, and that your country was almost there. Rather than whining about how everyone is picking on you, why not step up and engage in some legitimate rational discussion? Wink.

Sadly enough you've ruined every attempt of having a serious discussion. You don't care about facts, you're just a NPC repeating what you've heard on CNN.

Besides your total disinterest in having any serious discussion, you're also absolutely clueless about the world outside of USA. You represent the worst of USA. The ignorance, arrogance and rudeness.

I will not entertain your cherry-picking, it's simply laughable. It's funny how countries suddenly becomes "impossible" to compare when it doesn't fit your agenda. More importantly, you're dead wrong.

I was right about COVID-19, the lockdowns didn't eradicate the virus and the number of deaths stayed relatively low. It mostly took out those already on their way to check out. It's fun to see how hysteric you're over the inevitable. I'm surprised how few died, almost 0 per 100'000 for people under 50 when adjusting for underlying health problems. Please explain why the Swedish strategy worked out so much better than the strategy the blue states in USA used. Another failure for the Democrats and proof of how liberals can talk all day but never walk the talk. The party of empty promises.

[Sirioja]

NL didn't confine for first wave, but did for second, not to kill too many people, when small Sweden killed many old on first wave. Killing Thanksgiving in US. Third wave in South Korea. Let s see vaccine effects in UK which wanted to rush first.

[BigBuddy69]

Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.stat...-to-eu-budget/

Actually I was wrong only one time about the Spanish deficit (shame on me, I embarrassed myself because I assumed that 100% of your posts are total bullshits) and you've been right only one time (congratulations). All your other arguments make no sense except in your alternate universe.

As for the comparison with Nordic countries that's easy.

Just check on any serious website (odcd. Org for example) that Norway, Denmark have similar demographics with Sweden. Major difference: they enforced a lockdown. But shooTroll has some trouble doing comparisons: in one of his ramblings he used Ireland as an example of ineffective lockdown. The only problem is that Ireland a way less deaths par capita than Sweden.

It's also possible to compute the weighted average of deaths per capita in Europe in the lockdown countries and in the no lockdown country.

I'm pretty sure that the result won't be too bright for Sweden.

[Gino02]

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article...own-loneliness

[Paulie97]

Nice straw man.

Spain, Italy, France, Belgium and the UK are not South American countries.

But their demographics and logistics are plenty different than Sweden, just like those South American countries. Just grow a pair and compare your country Sweden to your Nordic neighbors. Explain why your per capita death rates are drastically higher. Explain why daily cases are shooting through the roof at present, even though your claimed there months ago that herd immunity is reached at 20%, and that your country was almost there. Rather than whining about how everyone is picking on you, why not step up and engage in some legitimate rational discussion? Wink.

[McAdonis]

LOL, I would like to see the hard facts on this.

Sounds more like 90% BS and 10% truth.

Look how steep the curve is for daily new cases in Sweden since October 15. First seven months 103,499 cases. Last six weeks 175,413 cases. If the cases had been circulating those first seven months, than a large percentage of Swedish would have acquired natural immunity and the cases should be NOT be increasing now in what appears to be an exponential rate. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/.

One of the reasons is cultural: Swedish people maintain smaller social circles and require less social contact than people from warmer cultures. This is a generalization, and of course there will be exceptions to the rule, but anecdotally I have NEVER heard anything different. This includes expats who have lived in Sweden and Swedish people themselves. Two surveys, one by InterNations and HSBC Expat Explorer found Sweden to be one of the worst places to make friends: https://www.thelocal.se/20171223/why...ith-the-swedes.

Both surveys questioned thousands of expats living around the world on a variety of topics relating to life in their new country, and this year 72 percent of Internations respondents said they found it tough to get to know the Swedes.

"We value the freedom of spending time alone, walking in the forest; there’s a big fascination with peace, harmony, nature, peace and quiet, rather than a pressure to always be doing lots of things with lots of different people," explains Sofi Tegsveden Deveaux

“In Sweden, it’s common to have this idea that people should be ‘självständig’; autonomous and independent, and able to do things without needing help from someone else. But that cuts back on opportunities for social contact.”

She contrasts this with the cultural norms in China and Iran, both places where she has spent a considerable amount of time. “People prefer to be together than to be alone there, and it’s very common for someone to take your hand as you cross the street or put their arm around you while talking – even people you’re not particularly close with,” she explains.

"We native Swedes struggle to make friends with each other too," says native Swede Sofi Tegsveden Deveaux. After leaving Sweden at 18, she returned several years later and remembers finding it difficult to meet new people

Swedish value a small, but tight circle. That said, Swedish can be better friends to the one or two friends that they have, because they have zero interest in acquiring more friends.

"I think less value is placed on having loads of people you can go and do things with. Swedish friendship involves deeper commitment; people you really trust, enjoy spending time with, and who are essential to your life, while Americans are much more likely to have a really broad group of people you sort of know and hang out with," says anthropologist Maris Gillette.

Other articles on Swedish interpersonal distance: https://www.politico.eu/article/soci...swedish-style/.

[Mursenary]

Another one straight over your big head.

No one talked about your appearance, don't be so insecure of yourself.

Your below average "intelligence" and your above average arrogance are the two things that makes you the perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Your momma.

[ShooBree]

It is a fact I read on facebook, so it must be true. Or maybe it was Shoobree. Does not matter.

The "fact" of the matter is that COVID is CIA / conspiracy / UFO cover up by the evil government, and apparently devised by Richard Nixon in 1972. I have it on good authority Hitler is still alive in a Nazi den in the Antarctica and hooked up with Aryan aliens that have done modifications so an orgasm goes for 10 minutes, is 100 times more exciting and only takes 30 minutes to recover from. I've even heard the ladies have super sensitive extra clits in their anus and tonsils and love being ravished in that way.

And the Antarctica FKKs! Non sag F cup boobs, all free, no democrats and everyone is a billionaire. Who wants to join?

Great, another weirdo obsessing over me.

[ShooBree]

Criticizing someone's appearance would be more effective if you actually know what the person looks like.

Also, "Yo Momma. ".

Another one straight over your big head.

No one talked about your appearance, don't be so insecure of yourself.

Your below average "intelligence" and your above average arrogance are the two things that makes you the perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Sirioja]

After Thanksgiving, 3000 with 2700 in rich California, covid deaths yesterday, US will reach soon 300000.995 yesterday in Italy. UK will be first to vaccine very soon, when Germany and France prefer to be more careful to allow vaccines. Sanofi should arrive only on June. It will be war to get enzyms to build vaccines.

[Gino02]

It is a fact I read on facebook, so it must be true. Or maybe it was Shoobree. Does not matter.

The "fact" of the matter is that COVID is CIA / conspiracy / UFO cover up by the evil government, and apparently devised by Richard Nixon in 1972. I have it on good authority Hitler is still alive in a Nazi den in the Antarctica and hooked up with Aryan aliens that have done modifications so an orgasm goes for 10 minutes, is 100 times more exciting and only takes 30 minutes to recover from. I've even heard the ladies have super sensitive extra clits in their anus and tonsils and love being ravished in that way.

And the Antarctica FKKs! Non sag F cup boobs, all free, no democrats and everyone is a billionaire. Who wants to join?

Me! Me! But only if Tupac is the best rapper alive!