Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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01-29-22 18:28 #9292
Posts: 1329Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Covid exposure should be recognized to be as good as vax if not even better, especially Omicron exposure as immunity acquired to Omicron appears to be backwards compatible to previous variants.
It is less likely, although possible, that future variants will be able to simultaneously escape Omicron immunity while also causing significantly more severe disease. As each wave passes, benefits of vaccination versus natural immunity will further gravitate toward natural immunity, at least for the robustly healthy.
Due to social-political climates, herd immunity through vaccination is obviously not realistically possible and considering the dwindling disease severity, future policies should promote, not mandate, vaccination, especially for for the elderly. The realities of Omicron and the future protection exposure provides should help alleviate the pressure for governments to continue their desire to mandate.
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01-29-22 18:01 #9291
Posts: 1329Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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01-29-22 17:06 #9290
Posts: 1329Spring and Summer will be good, covid likely seasonal, vaccines did their jobs
Saturdays are good days to assess cases since agencies often stop reporting on the weekends.
Cases seem to have peaked in most developed nations. Of the G7 nations, Germany and Japan seem to be the last to establish clear peaks. Average time from surge to peak is between 3-4 weeks which is where Germany is at the moment. In the cases of UK and Canada, the time to get back down to a base level looks like 5-6 weeks. Worldwide numbers appear to have peaked also.
G7 Nations cases peaked
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...RA~ITA~JPN~CAN
World cases peaked.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...ntry=~OWID_WRL
As always, peak deaths follow 2-3 weeks after peak cases which is what above nations should be experiencing now, with Japan and Germany to follow in the next month.
G7 nations Deaths currently at their peaks.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...EU~GBR~FRA~JPN
After vax campaigns and recent Omicron exposure, over 90% of the world should have some combination of immunity either through vax or natural immunity decreasing future case severity. I dare to say spring should see some quiet times and extend though the summer. Other variants may arise but variants have consistently shown to become more and more transmissible but less and less lethal.
World deaths peaks decreasing with each wave.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...ntry=~OWID_WRL
Over 80% of 2021 US deaths were amongst the unvaccinated.
Unvaxxed only make up about 25% of the US population but 80% of Delta-Omicron deaths, 70% of Delta-Omicron cases, and 65% of Omicron cases.
From April 2021 to December 2021 94 K unvax deaths compared to 22 K vax deaths in the USA, 6. 8 million cases unvaxxed compared to 2. 8 million vaxxed.
In December when Omicron took hold, unvaxxed cases (748 per 100 K) made up 4. 9 x more cases than boostered cases (148 per 100 K) and 2. 8 x more cases than vax unboostered (254 per 100 K). Death numbers for December still pending.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/...e2.htm#T2_down
Dare to say whatever variants arise, covid winters will go forth and mimic flu winters. I'm banking on an annual vaccine schedule and pray that governments and the people will not accept mandates and just leave it up to the people to decide for themselves how they want to approach their health. But the efficacy of vaccines and boosters although waning is clear after examining the data from the entirety of 2021. That's especially true for the 50 year old and up population, something quite pertinent for the average reader on this forum.
Point is, the numbers are clearly out there and the health impact of covid variants is leveling off. Add the fact that people have to tools and / recent exposure to protect themselves, people can now make their own decisions regarding vax or whatever without being a threat to others who have properly made the right decisions to protect themselves in the setting of their own health / immunity profiles.
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01-29-22 02:54 #9289
Posts: 1329Originally Posted by Gino02 [View Original Post]
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01-29-22 00:37 #9288
Posts: 410Originally Posted by DrPoon [View Original Post]
Drunk wife leans over the guard rail on the upper deck of the cruise ship. A waiter runs by and says madam, please be careful, you may fall overboard! Irritated husband: please leave us alone, this is our vacation!
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01-28-22 23:00 #9287
Posts: 410Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 22:40 #9286
Posts: 806Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 22:14 #9285
Posts: 6420Sex on a Cruise
There are some cruises that are just for swingers. Those cruises are typically for couples only, but I did identify at least one that accepted some singles (expensive). A P4P cruise would be great for us mongers though wouldn't it?
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01-28-22 21:48 #9284
Posts: 247Originally Posted by SmokeLight [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 19:35 #9283
Posts: 1138Originally Posted by EscapeArtist [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 16:58 #9282
Posts: 1329Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 16:57 #9281
Posts: 1329Originally Posted by DrPoon [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 15:43 #9280
Posts: 5648Originally Posted by SmokeLight [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 14:58 #9279
Posts: 6686The new self tests. The only ones that are approved at the moment have the updated new microparticles in them. Used for brain takeover.
I suppose you are all taking test regularly?
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01-28-22 14:45 #9278
Posts: 6686And so people will need to have had 3 dosages by now. Add to that that the omicron updated vacc has not yet arrived.