Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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01-29-22 23:00 #9299
Posts: 265Don't know about the US but in Sweden, Denmark & many other countries you are statistically unvaccinated in the hospitals when you have taken 1 shot and until two or three weeks after the second shot. And when you take your booster shot you are again unvaccinated the first couple of weeks after the shot! Logical isn't it!? Many of those in the hospitals and deaths in Sweden has come in a few days after their injections, and then they are unvaccinated! So the statistics from the governments is not really what I would trust to be honest.
Why is thousands of scientists and doctors silenced all over the world?! The truth can be examined, the lie can not.
I choose to trust all these doctors and scientists that put their jobs and reputation on the line, rather than the governments own 'experts'.
You also need to take into consideration that the average age of those that have died with maybe not even of Covid in Sweden is 83 years old.
To even have the thought of vaccination of kids with a experimental vaccine is bizarre. You need to make a risk vs benefit analysis first. And as we hopefully all know young people have close to zero gain of a vaccine since they are not being hospitalised. We all agree that whatever injection status all people transmit the disease so vaxxpassports are utterly useless. They only serve one purpose, control. It's the agenda of global fascists, you own nothing and you will be happy as the World Economic Forum so nicely put it.
And a couple of weeks ago EMA (European Medicine Agency) mentioned in a study that your immune system could be damaged by the so called vaccine.
We are lucky that this Omicron variant is so contagious and with mild symptoms, the more people who gets it naturally the closer we get to natural immunity.
And again if you are 'vaccinated' why do you care if others are, you're safe right?!
If not, doesn't your medicine work if others don't take it?! Hahaha sorry but there is close to zero logic in this.
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01-29-22 21:10 #9298
Posts: 1330Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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01-29-22 21:05 #9297
Posts: 6686It doesn't matter if the quackzinr was approved or authorized. It is the efficacy that matters. See?
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...-doesnt-matter
And although most nanoparticles caused a lot of detoxification through the lungs, a lot of people got chipped.
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01-29-22 21:05 #9296
Posts: 1330Originally Posted by TeddyBears [View Original Post]
That being said, death rates clearly show that vaccines have a very measurable amount on severe sickness. In US, 25% of unvaxxed make up 80% of deaths. Doesn't get more clear than that.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm#T2_down.
Does not stop transmission but clearly reduced transmission, although less and less with each variant.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597
Antigen tests may not be so reliable but are good for detecting how contagious someone is. False negative on antigen still likely not doing harm as negative antigen correlates with low chance of transmitting. PCR generally have remain pretty reliable with the exception of the Omicron BA. 2 variant that seem to be escaping even the PCR due to an S-gene mutation. But that has no effect on ability to cause disease.
Most guys I know are overly confident in their health. Probably the reason why men are more likely to experience an unexpected diagnosis in an emergency setting. That reality usually start hitting them when they realize that they're in their 40's and 50's and are no longer 25.
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01-29-22 21:01 #9295
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by TeddyBears [View Original Post]
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...d-vaccines-flu
Now the nurse and the idiots just need their 4th and 5th vaxx!
We never would have imagined how effective the vaccines would have become! LOL.
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01-29-22 20:55 #9294
Posts: 6686Originally Posted by EscapeArtist [View Original Post]
My point was that natural immunity or not is irrelevant because the point of the quackzine has nothing to do with covid.
If that at this stage has not become apparent, then I guess perhaps the brain control might have started working sooner than I had expected. Or perhaps as I wrote above, I just keep overestimating people.
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01-29-22 20:07 #9293
Posts: 265By now we all know that these injections doesn't prevent sickness and they certainly NOT prevent transmitting the disease, so then what's the fucking point with these so called vaxxpassports?
So since you transmit the disease you don't take the injektions to save others from getting it, you take the shot to protect yourself. If you feel the need to take a injektion with an emergency approved 'vaccine' with all time high adverse reactions feel free to take it. But don't try and force others to do the same. I for one trust my own immune system and don't feel the need to take a test to know if I'm sick or not.
How many billions of euros is all these pcr testing cost?! It's crazy really, they are not even reliable what so ever. What we have at the moment is a 'test-pandemic' that forces people to stay home from work & school even if they don't have any symptoms.
Fuck big pharma & the MSM media.
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01-29-22 18:28 #9292
Posts: 1330Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Covid exposure should be recognized to be as good as vax if not even better, especially Omicron exposure as immunity acquired to Omicron appears to be backwards compatible to previous variants.
It is less likely, although possible, that future variants will be able to simultaneously escape Omicron immunity while also causing significantly more severe disease. As each wave passes, benefits of vaccination versus natural immunity will further gravitate toward natural immunity, at least for the robustly healthy.
Due to social-political climates, herd immunity through vaccination is obviously not realistically possible and considering the dwindling disease severity, future policies should promote, not mandate, vaccination, especially for for the elderly. The realities of Omicron and the future protection exposure provides should help alleviate the pressure for governments to continue their desire to mandate.
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01-29-22 18:01 #9291
Posts: 1330Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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01-29-22 17:06 #9290
Posts: 1330Spring and Summer will be good, covid likely seasonal, vaccines did their jobs
Saturdays are good days to assess cases since agencies often stop reporting on the weekends.
Cases seem to have peaked in most developed nations. Of the G7 nations, Germany and Japan seem to be the last to establish clear peaks. Average time from surge to peak is between 3-4 weeks which is where Germany is at the moment. In the cases of UK and Canada, the time to get back down to a base level looks like 5-6 weeks. Worldwide numbers appear to have peaked also.
G7 Nations cases peaked
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...RA~ITA~JPN~CAN
World cases peaked.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...ntry=~OWID_WRL
As always, peak deaths follow 2-3 weeks after peak cases which is what above nations should be experiencing now, with Japan and Germany to follow in the next month.
G7 nations Deaths currently at their peaks.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...EU~GBR~FRA~JPN
After vax campaigns and recent Omicron exposure, over 90% of the world should have some combination of immunity either through vax or natural immunity decreasing future case severity. I dare to say spring should see some quiet times and extend though the summer. Other variants may arise but variants have consistently shown to become more and more transmissible but less and less lethal.
World deaths peaks decreasing with each wave.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...ntry=~OWID_WRL
Over 80% of 2021 US deaths were amongst the unvaccinated.
Unvaxxed only make up about 25% of the US population but 80% of Delta-Omicron deaths, 70% of Delta-Omicron cases, and 65% of Omicron cases.
From April 2021 to December 2021 94 K unvax deaths compared to 22 K vax deaths in the USA, 6. 8 million cases unvaxxed compared to 2. 8 million vaxxed.
In December when Omicron took hold, unvaxxed cases (748 per 100 K) made up 4. 9 x more cases than boostered cases (148 per 100 K) and 2. 8 x more cases than vax unboostered (254 per 100 K). Death numbers for December still pending.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/...e2.htm#T2_down
Dare to say whatever variants arise, covid winters will go forth and mimic flu winters. I'm banking on an annual vaccine schedule and pray that governments and the people will not accept mandates and just leave it up to the people to decide for themselves how they want to approach their health. But the efficacy of vaccines and boosters although waning is clear after examining the data from the entirety of 2021. That's especially true for the 50 year old and up population, something quite pertinent for the average reader on this forum.
Point is, the numbers are clearly out there and the health impact of covid variants is leveling off. Add the fact that people have to tools and / recent exposure to protect themselves, people can now make their own decisions regarding vax or whatever without being a threat to others who have properly made the right decisions to protect themselves in the setting of their own health / immunity profiles.
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01-29-22 02:54 #9289
Posts: 1330Originally Posted by Gino02 [View Original Post]
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01-29-22 00:37 #9288
Posts: 410Originally Posted by DrPoon [View Original Post]
Drunk wife leans over the guard rail on the upper deck of the cruise ship. A waiter runs by and says madam, please be careful, you may fall overboard! Irritated husband: please leave us alone, this is our vacation!
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01-28-22 23:00 #9287
Posts: 410Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 22:40 #9286
Posts: 806Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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01-28-22 22:14 #9285
Posts: 6420Sex on a Cruise
There are some cruises that are just for swingers. Those cruises are typically for couples only, but I did identify at least one that accepted some singles (expensive). A P4P cruise would be great for us mongers though wouldn't it?