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  1. #944
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    It turns out that the COVID-19 germ was already circulating in Brazil in November 2019:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.20140731v1

    Can anyone tell me how that is possible when it supposedly started in Wuhan, China in December 2019?

    It was also found in the sewage of Spain and Italy around December.
    It wasn't being tested for in Wuhan earlier. Try doing the testing in wuhan samples 2019 Oct. Of wait, that's not going to happen because of secrecy.

  2. #943

    shit going down

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Then you have the slums in Bangladesh where it spreads like wildfire. The favelas in Brazil where hardly any medical personell enters and people die at home.
    Ya hasrety! it turns out that the COVID-19 germ was already circulating in Brazil in November 2019:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.20140731v1

    Can anyone tell me how that is possible when it supposedly started in Wuhan, China in December 2019?

    It was also found in the sewage of Spain and Italy around December.

  3. #942
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Social and civil unrest, particularly if it boils over to violence, will be perpetuated by young males. The pandemic forced a period of introspection for all of humanity. For those that feel "left behind", that may have deepened some wounds. Yes, there were riots in the 1960's, but this was an era of abundance. If you were white, 15-24 yo and had the fortune to be born in the USA during this period, your prospects for the future were incredibly promising. In 2020, I do not believe young Americans share this optimism. The cost of housing, education, and health care have all outpaced inflation. Adjusted for inflation, millennials are the first generation to be financially worse off than their parents:

    Suicide rates have increased across all age groups, genders, and races.

    This technology disruption will be more profound than previous ones. Re-training a farmer to work in a factory is much easier to do than re-training a truck driver to be a coder. In the long term, the Fourth Industrial Revolution should improve the quality of life for all of humanity, but in the near term increase social tensions, inequality, and discontent. The pandemic also gave companies an excuse to accelerate their adoption of AI.

    I could foresee an eventual breakup or re-alignment of the EU. But most have predicted this since the beginning. I guess the question is whether it would be peaceful and gradual or a period of intense turmoil. You would have to elaborate on what China's rise might mean for Europe. Do you believe it would worsen just the financial well-being of the average European? Or change their way of life in a much more profound way?
    I think you and I have fundamentally 180 deg views. I am a lot more positive on US And it's future, while you are clearly negative on US. Not sure if you are negative on US or not because you ask questions more than you provide your own views, perhaps in an attempt to stir up discussion or don't want to reveal your real thinking, or perhaps due to other reasons. All of that is fine. Yes, Us is a polarized society with a high degree of inequality and yes some Millennials are struggling. But it is also incredibly vibrant, technologically it is streets ahead of all others, and we still attract the best minds in the world who want to come here. Some of the brightest people from Europe and Asia and Latin America come here to live, work, make their money, start new enterprises. Trump's anti immigration stance is unfortunate but I suspect we still haven't lost the luster. Our companies in stock market are valued the most. Just Apple alone is worth nearly 1. 5 trillion dollars, more than all of Latin America combined. In the last 15 years, at least measured by GDP per capita, the gap between US to most of the other nations has actually increased. These days, the main competition for us is China. It worries us endlessly. They are much more formidable than the Soviets ever were and their leadership is smarter than the idiots like Brezhnev and Andropov / Khrushchev. We slept at the wheel and partnered with Chinese and allowed them to ramp too much, and now they have a sufficiently large internal demand and in a decade might not need us at all. They are not there yet, but who knows, in a decade or two, they could be just as strong as US. Their younger people are smart, educated, hungry, enterprising, innovative, risk taking. All the things that made US strong. We simply do not see those things in Europe, not at scale anyway. Here and there, we see some pockets of growth and innovation and enterprise, but not enough. We simply do not see the same type of new company formation, innovation, technology development, venture capital investment, appreciation on the stock markets, etc. Germany is very dependent on automotive and industrial segments and has been depending more and more on China as a customer. But if in a decade, most of the cars are EV and also driverless, Germany economy faces big risks, as their market share in EV is likely to be less than what they enjoyed with internal combustion engines. Italy is a complete basket case, worse than Spain. UK is too dependent on financial services and London's role in serving Europe. I think Europeans get squeezed between US and China more and more, with not a whole lot of chance to turn this around. Their demographics suck, not enough population growth, not enough young people, and so many people in their late 20's and 30's still in University, no proper jobs, no family formation. That is not how you grow countries and economies. Again, I wish Europe was stronger, but no one who is in the financial services industry and follows Europe from an economics, investment point of view thinks Europe will turn around. 40 years ago, the world was Atlantic Ocean centered, with Europe and US on each side being the dominant centers of this world. Now this is a pacific century, it is US and China, and Asia in general. Korea and Taiwan are already as rich as Spain and Italy on a per capita basis or almost there. I have provided these numbers in the past. While US lead over Germany, the strongest economy in Europe has grown significantly in the last decade.

    On top of all this, the national balance sheets are pretty crappy in many European nations. That is true for US as well, it as we discussed, we can print our money endlessly and so far the markets are giving us a pass. Italy or Spain or even France do not have that ability. They have aging populations, large pension liabilities, not enough working age populations making good enough money to support all these aging people even as life spans are increasing and healthcare costs increase.

    So, you can focus on the negatives of US. Internal strife, divisions, inequality, racial tensions and all that, but I would say all of those are prevalent in Europe as well. No one can tell me that African immigrants are treated any better in France than they are in US. Our black people in US have higher per capita GDP than many European averages. We don't have monkey chants at our soccer games. So, I reject any moral superiority Europe throws in our direction, and anyway, that is irrelevant to this discussion. We had 15 years during which Europe continuously lost ground vs US and China both. When this actually turns around in any meaningful, we can talk.

  4. #941
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, but there is a massive gulf between some sections of the society being unhappy + occasional riots to speaking about a revolution. If it is some riots, we are already having them now. We also had riots in 1960's, and if this question was asked in 1960's probably many might have said American society is heading towards a split or revolution etc, and as it were, we had 50-60 years of peaceful prosperity.

    Tech always brings disruptive changes. That will continue. But do I expect people rising up to overthrow the bums and guillotine them literally or figuratively? Don't count on it in US.

    My prediction is that Eurozone countries will either shrink in number to a few core nations (FR, DE, ND, etc) or Euro will simply fall apart as a currency and each will go back to its original currency before any revolution ever happens in the US. I also think China will become an existential threat to Europe and they will be torn between US and China. Either way, I am much more pessimistic about Europe than US, as an economic destination.
    Social and civil unrest, particularly if it boils over to violence, will be perpetuated by young males. The pandemic forced a period of introspection for all of humanity. For those that feel "left behind", that may have deepened some wounds. Yes, there were riots in the 1960's, but this was an era of abundance. If you were white, 15-24 yo and had the fortune to be born in the USA during this period, your prospects for the future were incredibly promising. In 2020, I do not believe young Americans share this optimism. The cost of housing, education, and health care have all outpaced inflation. Adjusted for inflation, millennials are the first generation to be financially worse off than their parents:

    When his father, Craig, was 29, he was already married, owned a home in Payson, Utah, and had two of his five children. Now 64, Craig Larsen worked as a mechanical engineer, earning about $20,000 a year at the time, or about $50,500 in today's dollars, even though he hadn't finished college. His wife, Kathy, was a stay-at-home mom.

    Scott, the youngest of the kids, is a marketing manager for a health and beauty company based in nearby Provo, Utah. Though he earns around $60,000 annually -- about 20% more than his dad did at his age -- he is living with his parents, because he doesn't feel he can afford to buy a place of his own thanks to soaring housing prices. While his dad was able to purchase a house for a little over twice his annual salary, Scott Larsen says he'd have to spend more than five times his yearly paycheck.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/11/politics/millennials-income-stalled-upward-mobility-us/index.html
    Suicide rates have increased across all age groups, genders, and races.

    "The United States is one of the worlds outliers, with suicide rates climbing since the early 2000s. Every state has seen a rise but some, such as California and New York, have lower rates and more modest increases."

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/08/geography-loss-global-look-uneven-toll-suicide
    This technology disruption will be more profound than previous ones. Re-training a farmer to work in a factory is much easier to do than re-training a truck driver to be a coder. In the long term, the Fourth Industrial Revolution should improve the quality of life for all of humanity, but in the near term increase social tensions, inequality, and discontent. The pandemic also gave companies an excuse to accelerate their adoption of AI.

    "Its quite different than the three Industrial Revolutions that preceded itsteam and water power, electricity and assembly lines, and computerization because it will even challenge our ideas about what it means to be human.

    While in some ways it's an extension of the computerization of the 3rd Industrial Revolution (Digital Revolution), due to the velocity, scope and systems impact of the changes of the fourth revolution, it is being considered a distinct era. The Fourth Industrial Revolution is disrupting almost every industry in every country and creating massive change in a non-linear way at unprecedented speed."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2018/08/13/the-4th-industrial-revolution-is-here-are-you-ready
    I could foresee an eventual breakup or re-alignment of the EU. But most have predicted this since the beginning. I guess the question is whether it would be peaceful and gradual or a period of intense turmoil. You would have to elaborate on what China's rise might mean for Europe. Do you believe it would worsen just the financial well-being of the average European? Or change their way of life in a much more profound way?

  5. #940

    Regular non sex Saunas open again

    I see https://www.meditherme.de/ outside of Bochum is open again. My favourite big relaxation sauna resort, full of naked regular German women relaxing but no fucking. Man what I would give for a day in there now.

    Of course a day in an FKK brothel would be much better..

  6. #939
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Isn't that a huge turnoff? Coughing in the middle of sex is only slightly less gross than farting, LOL. I mean, the sight of the contorted face, ribs.

    Would spoil the mood for me even after she stopped coughing, as I reimagine that picture LOL.

    I guess your testosterone levels must be much higher than mine.
    Some people cough, clearing throat in many occasions because of alergy after eating something for instance or cold weather.

  7. #938

    Ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    The girls often ask me if I am in town on business. I tell the truth and say no, and that I am a sex tourist. Usually gets a smirk and / or a laugh. Ha!
    LOL, I say the same thing, even if I am visiting Germany etc for business reasons. They are amazed when I tell them I travel just for the FKK. Also when they ask "have you been here before" I say "yes, have you", that usually is a good ice breaker.

  8. #937
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    On Wednesday I was banging an escort and while copulating she warned me that she was going to cough and I continued pumping her and she coughed and I thought nothing of it and banged to climax. Last night while in bed I coughed a few times and thought damn I should have pulled out, exited the room and put a mask on. Its hard to be cautious while having sex.
    For many people (me included) when we bang the girl, especially when they are hot and gorgeous, our other head is ruling. It does not take long before our real head is ruling again when we realise that it is too late.

    So to me I am not going to "jab" the girls in the party, FKK before the COVID-19 vaccine is invented and I get the jab. Better if the anti-body test has been done. At least it will give a peace of mind that I have develop and immunity. I get flu jab every year not really efficient but I have not got influence since a long time ago, only mild cold.

  9. #936
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    This is a very interesting and unexpected post. If a girl farted while you were shagging her would you go limp and be unable to continue? A contorted face turns you off? Does she keep a straight face while she is about to come? It would take a lot to turn me off while having sex, menstrual blood comes to mind or perhaps the girl vomits which has never happened. A police friend of mine once related a story that while he and his buddy were on patrol one night they came upon this guy pumping this girl in his car with windows up and a/c on. They knocked on his window and he looked at them but he kept on shagging. They shouted at him, banged on his window and threatened him but he did not stop. My buddy told me that he actually begged them to allow him to finish. He was an elderly guy. I sympathize with him.
    I like a contorted face, especially when I'm nuts deep up in that anal tract. One reason why I love missionary anal so much LOL! I have never known a girl to actually fart when I was doing her, but there are those "pussy farts" you know where air gets trapped up in there. Can be very annoying and distracting, but not enough to get me to stop fucking. Now the menstrual cycle is another thing! Fucked a woman one time on her cycle and will never do that again! Blood everywhere! Ewwww! I don't know why women want to fuck during their period. Well, actually I heard that it can feel extra good as it soothes menstrual cramps. Well sorry lady, I can't help you on that! Have had other women want to fuck during "that time of the month", and I have always refused since that first bloody time. And always will!

  10. #935
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    This is a very interesting and unexpected post. If a girl farted while you were shagging her would you go limp and be unable to continue? A contorted face turns you off? Does she keep a straight face while she is about to come? It would take a lot to turn me off while having sex, menstrual blood comes to mind or perhaps the girl vomits which has never happened. A police friend of mine once related a story that while he and his buddy were on patrol one night they came upon this guy pumping this girl in his car with windows up and a/c on. They knocked on his window and he looked at them but he kept on shagging. They shouted at him, banged on his window and threatened him but he did not stop. My buddy told me that he actually begged them to allow him to finish. He was an elderly guy. I sympathize with him.
    I can stop quite easily in the middle of sex. If it is a small quick fart, only sound and no stink, yeah I suspect we will laugh it off and go on if we were fucking at that time. If she farted while I was eating her pussy it would be a bigger turnoff (I usually don't lick asshole, so can't say how that would make me feel). I haven't experienced too many pussy farts to comment about them. Even the sound of stomach gurgling from being hungry is a bit distracting occasionally. Persistent cough is definitely a turnoff but sneezing is actually cute if it happens just once or twice.

    Your police friend's story is so amusing LOL. It is nice of him to have let the couple finish. Would it count as cruel and unusual punishment if he had forcibly stopped them and dragged them away from each other? LOL.

    Some people can stop in the middle of sex much easier than others, not sure why. I don't take rooms with the explicit intent of not finishing in the rooms but I have read such stories on ISG. But there have been many times that I do not finish. Mainly because I do take many more rooms than I can cum. So, mathematically I am setting myself up to not finish in every fuck session. However, this only happens during FKK trips, not during any other sexual encounters for me and is happening more of late as my age is increasing now.

    Is it like being a light v heavy sleeper? Some people can sleep through an earthquake and fire storm. No amount of yelling, shaking, even water thrown in the face will wake them. We all had college roommates who locked us out and slept and could not be woken up. I am generally a light sleeper now. I wonder if the heavy sleepers also tend to be the ones who cannot stop in the middle of sex.

  11. #934
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Isn't that a huge turnoff? Coughing in the middle of sex is only slightly less gross than farting, LOL. I mean, the sight of the contorted face, ribs.

    Would spoil the mood for me even after she stopped coughing, as I reimagine that picture LOL.

    I guess your testosterone levels must be much higher than mine.
    This is a very interesting and unexpected post. If a girl farted while you were shagging her would you go limp and be unable to continue? A contorted face turns you off? Does she keep a straight face while she is about to come? It would take a lot to turn me off while having sex, menstrual blood comes to mind or perhaps the girl vomits which has never happened. A police friend of mine once related a story that while he and his buddy were on patrol one night they came upon this guy pumping this girl in his car with windows up and a/c on. They knocked on his window and he looked at them but he kept on shagging. They shouted at him, banged on his window and threatened him but he did not stop. My buddy told me that he actually begged them to allow him to finish. He was an elderly guy. I sympathize with him.

  12. #933

    Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Sirioja, the girls couldn't care less what us guys do for a living, they only care for our custom in other words our money. If we part with the money and treat them well with a good attitude we may well benefit from better service.
    The girls often ask me if I am in town on business. I tell the truth and say no, and that I am a sex tourist. Usually gets a smirk and / or a laugh. Ha!

  13. #932
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    So if I understand you correctly, you advocate to keep clubs closed indefinitely? Until a vaccine or herd immunity is achieved?.
    I didn't write this, I would not be honest when I go to escorts in Paris, Swiss clubs and today Vienna, but if I was German with wife and children, I would be grateful to Germany to try to protect their health, and Germany need to confine again some parts, when Switzerland is just crazy, no control, all for money.

  14. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterMonger  [View Original Post]
    Would you Knowingly have oral sex without a condom or straight sex with a condom with a girl who has AIDS even though there is only little danger?
    Yes. Yes I would.

  15. #930

    Vitamin 'C' & Co. LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    There is already a lot of media hype about every new case of CV19, and the stage for a second wave (real or imagined) is set. Furthermore, for ideological reasons, any successful treatment of CV19 is deliberately blocked by most western governments and the WHO because this was endorsed by Trump. In my country, doctors who successfully treated many patients with hydroxychloroquine + vitamine see, the + zinc are being silenced by the health authorities and shamed in the media for being quacks.
    If nobody is telling us about the successful treatments because they are being blocked by western governments, how do you know? Because you heard it on TV, on the internet, on the radio, in the newspapers? So everyone says it then, it's not true that they don't tell us, otherwise you wouldn't know it either.

    Mate, do not believe all the conspiracy theories you hear online.

    P.S. 'Vitamin C' does not exist!

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