Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Gino02]

Salaam Expat. I am also following this policy, at least half way. Ever since the pandemic began I have taken care to maintain strict social distancing from people I don't like. Recently, in compliance with recommendations on mental health, I extended my policy to include Internet activity.

Door handles. If we had only done the sensible thing and stayed in the forests like the Amazonian Indians there would be no door handles. I'm starting to think civilization was a mistake. The evidence is piling up like an overflowing garbage tip, just teetering and teetering. We should have figured this out already in 2019 but hindsight is 2020.

Imma follow your steps Poly. One girl told me this few days ago: "I've been working in a grocery store since day one of this crap. If this virus is so deadly, I should have been dead by now!" Given my handling of public door handles, windows, tables and using public toilets in last 6 months in FKKs, bars and clubs, how come I'm not dead yet? Or maybe I'm actually dead but this is just my 2019 persona writing in 2020? I'm also trying to find how many FKK girls died from this virus so far (RIP their souls, it's sad), given such a high percentage of deaths reported by all the reputed news media.

[ExpatLover]

Dear PayForIt,

FKK is not a normal business, the owners are not normal business men, recommend you to check a little who they are, which kind of activities they are controlling, how many times a lot of them have to deal with the police or had to go to court and were sentenced. Yes for the luckiest guys this stuff times will push them out of their sex addiction (fortunately took place for me in 2018) and after that you see the things from a very different point of view just because you are no more addicted and you don t try to find stupid excuses to justify your behaviour.

[ExpatLover]

EL: it is because that so many people don't take seriously the covid that we are facing a big second wave in Europe with a lot of new terrible restrictions. I don t know which kind of information do you need to start to act. Internet is a tool to get informed and to act. I also don't like people who don't care about the others who just think about their little pleasure, who are acting like the covid does not exist, but what I dislike the most are married or man in fix relation visiting prostitutes without telling it to their partners.

[Pistons]

As mentioned before on this forum, all medicines are basically stolen from nature. Repackaged and tried to be sold for a premium!

That includes also hydroxychloroquine sulfate, which is found in especially high amounts in lime and citrus fruits. And evidence shows clearly that this has the best effect against covid-19. So if you get covid-19, just press one or two limes a day and drink it with a glass of water, and you should be good to go. Maybe even take half a lime a day already even if you don't have covid.

Just the share abundance of lime and citrus fruits are a good reason to why I am not worried at all when it comes to covid.

A much better solution than scary vaccines!

[Polyamorist]

For those who still believe that there is no risk, a Australian study just came out, saying that the virus can survive 25+ days on plastic or metallic surfaces (door handle, toilets, windows, tables.) and still being active. It is exactly what I was writing weeks back and it is why I am keeping strong social distancing.

Salaam Expat. I am also following this policy, at least half way. Ever since the pandemic began I have taken care to maintain strict social distancing from people I don't like. Recently, in compliance with recommendations on mental health, I extended my policy to include Internet activity.

Door handles. If we had only done the sensible thing and stayed in the forests like the Amazonian Indians there would be no door handles. I'm starting to think civilization was a mistake. The evidence is piling up like an overflowing garbage tip, just teetering and teetering. We should have figured this out already in 2019 but hindsight is 2020.

[Member #4733]

You may have heard it. But sixsense is closed down and all other clubs as well in netherlands.

We were part of this. Running around in sex clubs without masks on. Shame on you.

I think you mean well but the closure has nothing to do with sex. The Dutch government would allow the wellness and the rooms to stay open. But it is the bar and restaurant that need to close down like all restaurants and bars in Holland. That is simply not a manageable situation. But in general you do have a good point. Closed areas with a lot of people with a lot of interaction are the perfect situation for super spreaders. So, just plain luck that no massive outbreak occurred in SS. What are the odds. SS just was lucky. My guess now is that the new measures will not improve the situation in Holland. The spreading started to increase dramatically in Amsterdam in July and has gone too far now. It won't be stopped without a total lockdown. Probably in two or four weeks. Lasting till Christmas. I hope I will be wrong but I was right the last few months.

[Oregon97]

Sweden has 11 times the per capita death rate with Covid as their neighbor Norway, thus needlessly sacrificing the lives of 5000+ of their citizens chasing herd immunity. There's also more at stake with Covid than life and death as many experience protracted symptoms and internal damage. And conspiracy theories trying to blame politicians and the media are of course a joke as this is a pandemic that has reached the entire world.

The pandemic is over in Europe? All I can do is suggest that you get your head out of your ass.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

Famous last words as the cold weather months approach.

Fully understand people living in countries with constant scare mongering are afraid. I believe in science, which is clear that the situation in most of Europe is not worse than any of the latest five years. In respect of comparing Scandinavian countries, fully understand people believe they are very similar but in reality there are huge differences in population, health status, social structures, living locations, CV19 categorisation, earlier flu season fatalities, elderly care regulations, etc, all of which surely has contributed to the higher death rates in Sweden than say Norway. So not necessarily dependent on CV19 strategies. Sweden is really the only country with a science based CV19 strategy and fully in line with the WHO recommendations from Nov 2019.

[Hktj26]

Is it still open as normal, or are there restrictions in Berlin now?

[HammerTime96]

You may have heard it. But sixsense is closed down and all other clubs as well in netherlands.

We were part of this. Running around in sex clubs without masks on. Shame on you.

I already predicted in July that any reopening of clubs brothels would be short-lived, and fools like yourself are now believing the hype that "we are part of this."

Well, I'm very much afraid that the authorities are deliberately setting prostitutes / customers / brothels up for permanent closures or totalitarian tracking apps on smartphones in case CV19 starts spreading again in autumn.

It will be easy to be point fingers at brothels, prostitutes, and their customers for not providing / checking contact data, or accepting / providing false contact data.

The end conclusion is simple and foreseeable as authorities will say: "you see, people can not be trusted, so now we need to shut down brothels and force everybody to install totalitarian CV19 tracking apps on phones to monitor everybody 24/7. "

There is already a lot of media hype about every new case of CV19, and the stage for a second wave (real or imagined) is set. Furthermore, for ideological reasons, any successful treatment of CV19 is deliberately blocked by most western governments and the WHO because this was endorsed by Trump. In my country, doctors who successfully treated many patients with hydroxychloroquine + vitamine see, the + zinc are being silenced by the health authorities and shamed in the media for being quacks.

[HammerTime96]

We were part of this. Running around in sex clubs without masks on. Shame on you.

1) How many people did you see in clubs without masks?

2) What did you do about it? Did you confront those people? Did you tell club management?

[Kuni042]

You may have heard it. But sixsense is closed down and all other clubs as well in netherlands.

We were part of this. Running around in sex clubs without masks on. Shame on you.

[Mursenary]

Average death age is with Covid 19 > 80.

Would like to know where you found this data. I have never been able to find anything to back up this claim.

[Gino02]

Sweden has 11 times the per capita death rate with Covid as their neighbor Norway, thus needlessly sacrificing the lives of 5000+ of their citizens chasing herd immunity. There's also more at stake with Covid than life and death as many experience protracted symptoms and internal damage. And conspiracy theories trying to blame politicians and the media are of course a joke as this is a pandemic that has reached the entire world.

The pandemic is over in Europe? All I can do is suggest that you get your head out of your ass.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

Famous last words as the cold weather months approach.

True, Sweden lost a lot of people early on in this pandemic, very likely older people with various underlying conditions and lower natural immunity. But, isn't Sweden's daily death rates (both 7 days and 3 days moving averages) are 0.1 or less per million residents for a while now (started declining in July), and it is pretty steady, whereas almost every other European countries are seeing increases (and many much higher than 0.1, even Germany is seeing double the death rates per million people now compared to Sweden) in that same daily deaths per million residents? What does that tell us about the long term strength or weakness of Sweden's Covid strategy?

[Paulie97]

I believe an increase in cases is expected because of seasonality and that is what we are seeing now. In most countries in Europe there hasn't been any excess mortality since June which then effectively is when the pandemic ended in Europe. Of course, with the level of testing now, there will be a sharp increase in number of cases but the relevant measurement should be number of deaths and number of Intensive Care cases compared to earlier years. I live in Sweden, we never had a lock-down, we don't use masks and we have accelerating under-mortality compared to the latest five years. Remember that one of the principal strategies for politicans is scare mongering because it gives them more power.

Sweden has 11 times the per capita death rate with Covid as their neighbor Norway, thus needlessly sacrificing the lives of 5000+ of their citizens chasing herd immunity. There's also more at stake with Covid than life and death as many experience protracted symptoms and internal damage. And conspiracy theories trying to blame politicians and the media are of course a joke as this is a pandemic that has reached the entire world.

The pandemic is over in Europe? All I can do is suggest that you get your head out of your ass.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

Famous last words as the cold weather months approach.

[ExpatLover]

Oregon96 : The results of Sweden are not good at all, 10 M people, 6000 deaths, it is even worse than France and far from Germany good results. The politicians don't care about mongering it is so marginal in the global GDP.