Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Pistons]

That is very negative, there are currently 140 vaccines in development for Wuhan Flu so there is a good chance that one might work, so far there has been good early results coming out of the trials of the first two to have reached phase three testing. This is a virus that has brought the world to a halt, no wonder billions of dollars are being spent to find a solution. Vaccine development normally takes decades as it's a slow and costly process but this time great efforts are being made to get something quickly.

Making a vaccine that work is not the hard part. The hard part is making a vaccine that both works, and has 0 bad side effects. An impossibility in our case here.

[Mr Ho]

I think I will wait a bit too. I do not drink or smoke cigarette, but there are many reliable report that one drink of alcohol per day is actually really good for your longevity and arteries.

[Blue Swede]

Please don't consider my previous message.

I've read data wrongly.

You sure have. But, it really doesn't matter if Sweden is on place 5, 7 or 1, the situation has been severe here, no doubt about that.

It will be very interesting to hear the aftermath for sure!

[McAdonis]

I remember very well the Hong Kong flu which killed over 1 million people between 1968 and 1970. During that period there were no travel restrictions, quarantines or closures. As a matter of fact the world's largest open air concert, Woodstock, took place in 1969.

According to this article, public health authorities took a more casual approach to the 1968 flu.

He reasoned that 'death was a bigger and more accepted part of daily American life' in the 1960s. WWII and the Korean War wasn't too far gone in the rear view mirror before America found themselves again involved in another deadly conflict in Vietnam. Polio haunted people until a vaccine was developed in the mid-1950s, and in 1957 the world was plagued by another pandemic, the H2N2 'Asian Flu' which killed 1 million people globally.

Also CV-19 is more deadly than the Hong Kong flu:

Dr. David Morens, a senior adviser at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases described the H3N2 pandemic as 'wimpy' to Snopes.com. 'Its not comparable in a lot of ways but particularly in its mortality. Its also not comparable in the effects of what would happen if you just let it go.'

'Coronavirus and the H3N2 flu are absolutely not interchangeable' said Dr. Monto. 'Its like comparing apples and oranges.' Monto explains that even though the H3N2 virus was highly contagious, some of the population had been bolstered by residual immunity that was leftover from the from the previous H2N2 pandemic in 1957.

Furthermore, a vaccine for a Hong Kong flu was developed right away even though it took a while to get it mass produced and distributed. 'The variable in this pandemic is that we don't have a vaccine yet. We're making it from scratch, we have no experience with a coronavirus,' explained Dr. Monto to DailyMail.com.

As you said, there were no lockdowns for the Hong Kong flu and 1 M died. Perhaps had there been global lockdown only 100 K would have died. With social distancing and global lockdown, CV-19 death count will most certainly exceed 1 M. If zero social distancing and no lockdown, who knows how high that figure might be. So we are not able to make an apples to apples comparison, because the politicians in 1968 and 2020 took drastically different approaches.

[Rocky V]

I remember very well the Hong Kong flu which killed over 1 million people between 1968 and 1970. During that period there were no travel restrictions, quarantines or closures. As a matter of fact the world's largest open air concert, Woodstock, took place in 1969. I doubt very much that a vaccine will be developed for covid 19. No vaccine has ever been developed for a corona virus of which we have had many over the past few decades.

They managed to develop the vaccine for SARS coronavirus almost 20 years ago, but the virus disappeared shortly before it went to market.

[SeaShark]

Please don't consider my previous message.

I've read data wrongly.

[SeaShark]

This site says something different.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

Belgium, UK, spain and Italy are still higher in the death / capita than Sweden.

Sweden, and other countries, reports deaths weekdays, up to a week delayed, so comparing one single day is no reliable method.

[McAdonis]

In the meantime, I'll continue to be cautious otherwise by avoiding large gatherings, social distancing, wearing a mask, etc. I wish this thing would just vanish though! That's one thing I do agree with Trump on. I mean, I want some pretty girl butt hole!

Does this mean that you have not mongered since lockdown? Not even locally? Majority of your monger-brethren on ISG believe the coronavirus is overblown or the risk-reward ratio is acceptable to them given the low death rate.

Amongst European-based mongers I have spoken with, there exist three categories: (1) zero mongering since lockdown, (2) mongering but only private meetups at hotels, (3) already back in the clubs. The second category is of particular interest, because some men are seeing ex-FKK WGs as incall and outcall at a starting price of 150 EUR per hour. If / when the German clubs reopen and those same WGs return to the clubs, will the men that saw them outside the club revert to 100 EUR per hour pricing?

[Blue Swede]

At risk of destroying your view of the world. Sweden does not report Corona number on weekends. Maybe this accounts for "a day without a single death". Otherwise Sweden is now the worst hit country in Europe per capita death rate).

Belgium, UK, spain and Italy are still higher in the death / capita than Sweden.

Sweden, and other countries, reports deaths weekdays, up to a week delayed, so comparing one single day is no reliable method.

[Downandup]

I doubt very much that a vaccine will be developed for covid 19. No vaccine has ever been developed for a corona virus of which we have had many over the past few decades.

That is very negative, there are currently 140 vaccines in development for Wuhan Flu so there is a good chance that one might work, so far there has been good early results coming out of the trials of the first two to have reached phase three testing. This is a virus that has brought the world to a halt, no wonder billions of dollars are being spent to find a solution. Vaccine development normally takes decades as it's a slow and costly process but this time great efforts are being made to get something quickly.

[Sirioja]

I remember very well the Hong Kong flu which killed over 1 million people between 1968 and 1970. During that period there were no travel restrictions, quarantines or closures. As a matter of fact the world's largest open air concert, Woodstock, took place in 1969. I doubt very much that a vaccine will be developed for covid 19. No vaccine has ever been developed for a corona virus of which we have had many over the past few decades. These viruses last for two or three years.

When covid-19 first became notorious in March and April people were scared as it was new and reactions were frantic. Over time people will become more accustomed to it, adjust and accept it and will be less concerned even though they will take necessary precautions. I think that by the second half of 2021 things will be back to normal and we will be enjoying our favorite FKKs like we were in 2019.

Already more than 500 000 deaths, US are more than 130 000 and can't really know about without healthcare insurance and illegals, and not finished yet. Germany, UK, Portugal, Spain and Italy, have to confine again. Brazil is in trouble, we can't trust China. Unfortunately, not finished yet and wait and see in Autumn or Winter.

[Turgid]

I remember very well the Hong Kong flu which killed over 1 million people between 1968 and 1970. During that period there were no travel restrictions, quarantines or closures. As a matter of fact the world's largest open air concert, Woodstock, took place in 1969. I doubt very much that a vaccine will be developed for covid 19. No vaccine has ever been developed for a corona virus of which we have had many over the past few decades. These viruses last for two or three years.

When covid-19 first became notorious in March and April people were scared as it was new and reactions were frantic. Over time people will become more accustomed to it, adjust and accept it and will be less concerned even though they will take necessary precautions. I think that by the second half of 2021 things will be back to normal and we will be enjoying our favorite FKKs like we were in 2019.

[Mtraveller]

I previously talked about how South Korea and Switzerland had handled the pandemic comparatively well. But I would also like to salute Taiwan. They always had strained relations with China, so they did not believe the lies coming out at the beginning of the year, and took swift action. The result?

Total deaths: 7.

Active cases: 4.

Recoveries: 438.

Also a shout-out to Sweden, which received harsh criticism for not implementing a lockdown. Yesterday, it recorded zero deaths from COVID-19 on that day. The US had 671.

At risk of destroying your view of the world. Sweden does not report Corona number on weekends. Maybe this accounts for "a day without a single death". Otherwise Sweden is now the worst hit country in Europe per capita death rate).

[Master Monger]

Covid-19, the new pet project for conspiracy theories that for whatever reason thrive on monger boards. All I can figure is that a lot of guys that fall for that stuff also like to pay for sex.

There are only three explanations for guys like you, you either work for someone benefiting from COVID-19, or you are benefiting from it or you have been sufficiently brainwashed.

I stated "facts" not theories, if you can disprove the facts I presented the US government will probably give you a lot of money and you will be their newest spin doctor. Until you can disprove the facts I presented your argument involves using the trigger word "conspiracy theory". This word triggers an immediate response to not believe anything said after it, this is brainwashing and if you don't believe me, look it up.

Let me give you an example, if there was factual evidence against you in a court case and you either lied or refused to explain this evidence you would be convicted no matter how many times you told the judge and jury it is all just a conspiracy.

In what logical world does a society ignore facts when presented with the words "conspiracy theory"? The only society that would do such a foolish thing is a society that has already been brainwashed.

Please rely on facts and figures that are current and don't reference things from the past that have now been clearly disproven. You can also take your information and sue the University of Alaska in court if you can prove they are wrong. Good Luck! Be smart and do more research about the world.

Oh, one last thing, guys who pay for sex are the most intelligent people in the world, we get all the enjoyment with none of the headaches.

[Pistons]

Hey there! Obviously we have to live with this member of the corona's family as we have lived with his other brothers, like mers or sars. Everything seems to indicate that this virus could be weakening in Europe and other places and we may not have such an aggressive second wave next fall or winter. Additionally, we will have a vaccine, from Oxford, that seems effective and will give confidence, especially when we travel. Sure, this is an optimistic view. I prefer to wait until the end of the year to make travel plans, being September as key month to know if our plans are moving well or if we have to continue postponing them for a while.

The Oxford vaccine is among thr vaccines targetting a part of the virus that makes it also target human cells so that we get a whopping 79% chance of bad life long side effects! Enjoy those if you want, I will not!

- There are thousands of mutations of Covid-19 already, and most are probably less deadly than what they had in Italy at first, but most likely, most probably, most of these mutations still have the Ace2 receptor, and also the FURIN cleavage. Thus causing a high, or I might say, near perfect transmittance rate between humans. Tailor made in a petri dish to do such a thing. And that is where they differ from SARS or MERS. Not that I am ruling out SARS or MERS also being results of petri dish mutations, but they did not have the FURIN cleavage. Which is the de facto proof any sane person, or judge should look at. But imagine if the rest of the Covid-19 virus also mutates into something as deadly as MERS. 30-35% Then what?