Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Gino02]

Even if your second degree of association was to be given any consideration, you forgot to consider that BionTech developed the vaccine entirely on it's own. Pfizer was only brought on to help process production, clinical trial logistics, legal, and distribution. Plus there's Moderna. So there's all that.

Yes, and that's even worse, to mandate a vaccine produced and distributed in partnership with a convicted criminal organization. All these companies and and the current governments' eagerness to mandate the Covid vaccine (that neither stops getting the virus, nor stops spreading it, only reduces chances of getting really sick but also with a pretty significant chances of fatal side effects, unlike other established and well tested vaccines eg for MMR, Tetanus, Hepatitis etc) should make you think. They are all in this together, all partners in crime. Just follow the money LOL.

BTW, did you watch the two videos I shared (links below again)? Any comment on those?

https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc

https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0

[Sirioja]

Being delusional is completely different than having confidence, old man. You still climb a 150 W only, plenty of women with more power.

With all my confidence now when now relaxing climbing on steepest You and 2 others will never climb and I would like to see Sagan in Zoncolan steepest parts when he was so difficult and close to be off race in much easier Loze, when I was easy in Loze on gravels they for sure didn't have because quite dangerous, relaxing in Mortirolo and controlling in Zoncolan, climbing only on 2 months after being sick for 1 month and half and when last was 9 months ago and no ski on Winter, 7,5 average in Zoncolan, 8,5 in Loze, usually between 9 and 11/12 in others, I would like to see You 3 climbing, to see if expensive bicycles climb faster. When I started Ventoux from Bedoin on last Saturday after climbing Prato 25 kms up to Stelvio on Friday with snow on 5 last kilometers and driving whole night after to Ventoux, I put my playlist music and topless with swim boxer suit as always, on start quite flat, 2 guys on expensive bicycles faster than me on quite flat, told me You climb like David Guetta, a real insult for me when they didn't even know about Led Zeppelin or Jimi Hendrix or new superstar Ayron Jones, but I thought truth will be in the steep in forest and as soon a bit steep I saw they were not anymore so fast, I didn t even rush to reach close to them, I knew, 2 and only me, but when I was just behind them, relaxing a bit on 28 , then violent acceleration on 24 just before the right curve with short 20% inside, I climbed straight the 20% but 2 expensive bicycles were not able for so steep, so they had to make longer distance, so they seemed stop, never saw them close behind me after when they were 2, when I just felt strong, like in Mortirolo or Loze. Funny good game when they are more regular than me in Ventoux. Wish I can return, waiting for new car, for double Ventoux, 3200 meters climbing on 41 kms, for my last Summer day when nearly always Summer there, when lost so much water when I climbed under 35 degrees and more on August when I started. At least, I really climb the highest ranked, I don't waste energy on hills.

[Sirioja]

Note to self: If you write posts on ISG while driving you will crash car.

Not writing nor phone calling on crash, big rain on 14 July morning which made big problems in Belgium and Germany with many deaths, I drove in France and very bad very violent reaction, not only sliding, from rear of the car due to quattro electronics reaction. Couldn't control the rear but managed to avoid front crash to protect new engine and not to open all airbags, then car would have been dead, saved car whatever could think expert and shock was for me, but pain in mind was higher than shoulder. My mistake was not to be on expert visit to explain him about reparation, but I fought all Summer to get it. When driving at night between my climbing's or between clubs or returning to work, reading and writing in English make my mind working and not feeling asleep on long motorway driving when I drive around 90000 kms per year. Old lady Audi with perfect balance even under big rain is not so far from 600000 kms with original engine after this Summer in mountains. Audi look at me with round eyes when I show them 20 km / h faster registered on GPS than Audi maximum speed and so many kilometers and still working good despite improving power and performances. As I told them yesterday, after so many problems since 2 years: electronics, engine, car heater, particles filter putting engine on safety protection, quattro to crash, even I fought like a carcajou whole Summer to save it when even Audi didn't think it worth, and will cost me more than 7000 € more than insurances, but my way of thinking. As told me German Pia at GT on a even too hardcore room for my taste and never repeated with her, when already 4 fingers done so she took my whole hand to put inside of her asking if I wanted to fist her, not my thing and she told I could for expensive extra, so I put off my hand with her wet fluid on bed, You never give up but You control all she said. Fortunately for me I m able, help for my life, I decide and only me for myself.

[Turgid]

Yes I was the driver so I m responsible and fortunately no other car, only me....

Note to self: If you write posts on ISG while driving you will crash car.

[Sirioja]

Silly old man. I've road across Florida over 2 weeks and used to bike up Sierra Nevadas of California.

Being less than 65 kg at the same height would actually even lower your terminal speed even more. I don't care how fast you are, impossible to be faster than physics, dummy.

You same than ZH just don't know anything about bicycle, reason why nobody for 2 October and You also don t know anything about cinetic energy. Just try to go on California street in San Francisco and don t brake and You will reach very fast 70 km / h if You let go without braking, not even turning legs, when California street is nothing compare to my climbings when I go only for steepest. There I kill my brakes because I would be very fast much faster than 70 km / h downhill such steep if I didn't brake very often and when only light weight, light is fast as told Colin Chapman who is still reference for race cars. But You only know when You really experienced on the steep, You don t learn sport on internet and when having bad level in dynamics. In my playfield and I m not the fastest downhill because not heavy enough, but we are faster than most cars and in straight lines for kilometers downhill Ventoux to Malaucene, I could be much faster than 70 km / h if I turned legs when I sometimes brake when I don t feel enough the grip under narrow tires. I really would like to see 3 here on the steep, not even top extreme, but like up to Verbier from Sambrancher like I chose, just to laugh, and for sure can be much faster than 70 km / h down from Verbier to LE Chable.

[PaulInZurich]

Believe me (25 years of cycling, often 3 times in a week), if you have some power in your legs it's not so difficult to reach 70 km / h on a more than 5% downhill.

I think that the calculation about max speed is missing the rider possible pedalling (depends on max gearing and max cadence) and you would need to know the cdA of the rider. You could pick a medium cdA, but some riders are much more aero than others. For downhills in real life the limiting factors are traffic, curves, road surface, how well do you know the downhill, is it windy etc. On a fast enough downhill even an almost invisible bump in the road can throw you off. I have a favorite downhill here in the ZRH area, I see the entire road when I am at the top, it is fairly straight and I have been down that road hundreds of times. I wouldn't bomb down a road I don't know, since over the years I have left my share of skin on the road. Road rash is not fun.

[Mursenary]

You know when "whataboutism" or even an analogy is needed to defend a point? When the point doesn't have it's own merit to stand. My point is: can we really trust the scientists or the companies that they work for which were repeatedly convicted and fined billions of dollars for repeated deceptions? We don't need any analogy to conclude that the resounding correct answer is "No! We cannot trust them". Period. Case closed.

If you still want to investigate that conclusion, go ahead do your own research. Here are some starting points (please watch them with your clam open mind, instead of being angry that Gino is trying to tell you something that you think you are right and he's wrong):

https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc

You do realize that Pfizers vaccine was developed entirely by BionTech scientists right? Pfizer had no role in development. And what of Moderna?

https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0

You can call me whatever names you want, but none of that will change the hard facts.

Even if your second degree of association was to be given any consideration, you forgot to consider that BionTech developed the vaccine entirely on it's own. Pfizer was only brought on to help process production, clinical trial logistics, legal, and distribution. Plus there's Moderna. So there's all that.

[Mursenary]

Believe me (25 years of cycling, often 3 times in a week), if you have some power in your legs it's not so difficult to reach 70 km / h on a more than 5% downhill.

As for superman, when he decided to write the "I'm a pro cyclist with 3 months of practice in a year" chapter of his fantasized autobiography on this board, he first claimed that he was very fast going downhill at 60 km / h. Then suddenly he skipped to 70 km / h. But that's someone who thinks that having a sub 9 kg bike is something to brag about and that Scott KTM is a model of bike.

For sure when you're 90-100 kg. But for a 70 kg man, the physics doesn't quite work out without the bike taking air.

[PaulInZurich]

... with my confidence ...

Being delusional is completely different than having confidence, old man. You still climb a 150 W only, plenty of women with more power.

[Gino02]

It wasn't even whataboutism but a valid analogy that demonstrated the fallacy of his reasoning.

You know when "whataboutism" or even an analogy is needed to defend a point? When the point doesn't have it's own merit to stand. My point is: can we really trust the scientists or the companies that they work for which were repeatedly convicted and fined billions of dollars for repeated deceptions? We don't need any analogy to conclude that the resounding correct answer is "No! We cannot trust them". Period. Case closed.

If you still want to investigate that conclusion, go ahead do your own research. Here are some starting points (please watch them with your clam open mind, instead of being angry that Gino is trying to tell you something that you think you are right and he's wrong):

https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc

https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0

You can call me whatever names you want, but none of that will change the hard facts.

[Sirioja]

Translation: he crashed the car.

Yes I was the driver so I m responsible and fortunately no other car, only me, but when I needed 1 year to prove to Audi engine had a problem when they didn't find and they changed under guaranty and after no more problem, today I went to see works, explaining them again balance problem on rear because of quattro. After works, expert will test car, I don t care when driving like a papy, Audi will test, I don t care, I told them I will test and take their testing guy with me and they know what I mean. I would not drive Audi quattro to be a Swiss snail, I would buy Dacia, I laugh through Switzerland seeing powerful cars blocked in first gear. Downhill on bicycle at 70 km / h is much more impressive than 250 in a car. But you have to experience both to know.

[BigBuddy69]

A 65 kg, 1.65 m high, rectangular shaped object going down a 20% (12 degree) gradient at 1700 m altitude would reach a terminal velocity once he gains enough speed where the drag force cancels out acceleration due to gravity. That speed would be a out 66 km / HR, and that's ignoring forces like friction of tires and gears which, by logic, would decreased that terminal velocity even more. His claim of the riding down a 20% grade mountain, helmetless at 70 km / HR is first a dumb as shit thing to do, but more importantly, impossible as determined by the laws of physics. But maybe Sirioja lives under a different set of physical laws.

Believe me (25 years of cycling, often 3 times in a week), if you have some power in your legs it's not so difficult to reach 70 km / h on a more than 5% downhill.

As for superman, when he decided to write the "I'm a pro cyclist with 3 months of practice in a year" chapter of his fantasized autobiography on this board, he first claimed that he was very fast going downhill at 60 km / h. Then suddenly he skipped to 70 km / h. But that's someone who thinks that having a sub 9 kg bike is something to brag about and that Scott KTM is a model of bike.

[Sirioja]

LOL, nobody is able to climb Zoncolan at 20 km / h, unless you mean one short section where it's flat. Pros like Pinot or Woods climb it at 14 km / h. You are climbing at 6 km / h, as it came out based on your own inflated claim. Soon you will say that you climb it at 100 km / h.

Learn to read when I wrote with my confidence and now relax for climbing even in Zoncolan or Mortirolo or Loze when I usually climbed forcing, so I look forward next Summer to climb faster, even I want to return to Ventoux with car repaired, when I'm so much faster now than when I started in my 30's on 2003 and I will have same perfect bicycle which would be able to climb at 20 km / h with somebody able to turn enough legs but no professional even with engine in electric gears and all products they take is able. I climbed at 7,5 average the 10,5 kms Ovaro up to Zoncolan with 3 very wet and dark tunnels on top and controlling my effort, 8,5 average and easy in Loze slaloming among gravels on track when I m sure they cleaned for tour de France, but just try to reach the top of them if You are able when we are friends with my bicycle for this and faster in the steep than many expensive bicycle.

[Mursenary]

I'm less than 65 kgs, better to climb, but you never been on a bicycle and you don't know anything about cinetic energy when downhill on 20% steep, you are very fast and easily faster than 70 km / h and I'm not good downhill on bicycle because not heavy enough, don't take too much risk and usually a bit cold in high mountains. You and ZH should really jump on a bicycle to really know more than on internet. Professionals reach 90/100 km / h on less impressive steep.

Silly old man. I've road across Florida over 2 weeks and used to bike up Sierra Nevadas of California.

Being less than 65 kg at the same height would actually even lower your terminal speed even more. I don't care how fast you are, impossible to be faster than physics, dummy.

[PaulInZurich]

I'm less than 65 kgs, better to climb.

Still only 150 W, there are plenty of women with more power. If weight would be the only thing that matter, 5 year old children would be the best at cycling uphill.