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  1. #10889
    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Can you please enlighten us as to how the USA benefitted from losing the Vietnam War?
    US always made good business, during or after wars. Like Putin, they don't care about fresh flesh killed.

  2. #10888
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    From the dawn of civilization empires rose and fell. It is happening now and cannot be stopped. I think the most we can do is to work in whatever little way we can to ensure that there is no war between the west vs Russia and the East for that would mean the end of human life on earth.
    You're not wrong at all. But in the case of human rights and sovereignty, you can stand and do nothing until one day you stand alone.

  3. #10887
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    If they would have let the Fuhrer destroy the Soviet Union then there would be no Comrade P. And no Ukraine war either. So what if the greater part of German people are united? This would have also prevented the Israel Palestine war, which led to Al-Quida plane attacks which also never would have occurred, and also probable never needed to develop nuclear weapons.

    As Comrade P. Said, the USA set a precedent to use nuclear weapons to defend Hawaii via escalating to deescalate.
    Sounds so simple and I bet you thought that was such a profound point. Small detail that a couple people may take notice that in your scenario, there would also be no UK, France, Netherlands, Belgium, etc, etc, etc.

  4. #10886
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    ....So easy to make big talk but imagine the threat to Western society if there were both an economically powerful China and a militarily strong Russia. Middle Eastern nations and India, all this time just waiting to ally themselves with the stronger pact would love to abandon Western relations if given better opportunity. It would be Europe and North America against the rest of the world. But we have weak European mentality and treasonous Americans only criticizing and offering no better solutions.
    From the dawn of civilization empires rose and fell. It is happening now and cannot be stopped. I think the most we can do is to work in whatever little way we can to ensure that there is no war between the west vs Russia and the East for that would mean the end of human life on earth.

  5. #10885
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    "Appeasement" was the European approach to Hitler. As in, European governments wanted to avoid war so they let Hitler one-by-one annex various territories in Europe. First they take Austria for being German lands filled with German people, sound familiar? Germany basically doubles their war coffers. Then he takes Sudetenland claiming German lands. Being pussies, French and British governments make a pact with Hitler, "okay you can have, but no more. " 6 months later, Hitler takes the rest of Czech gaining access to their gold reserves to feed their war machine. France and Britain again just says "no more," but just only big talk and no action. Now with a fully funded military force, they invade Poland 6 months later doubling their lands and accessing resources while "freeing ethnic Germans", enlisting men from Europe's 4th largest military forge to complete the Nazi war machine.

    Now with Putin following the same stepwise annexation playbook, claiming grounds of former soviet lands and ethnic origin, but this time with the US actually there to extend help and doing something about it, we have the same pussies who would dare criticize when the last time, their mentalities empowered an eventual war criminal who should have been stopped on Day 1. Same posters talk about governments "protecting" them the covid. What a bunch of pussies that obviously want to be ruled and need to be led.

    So easy to make big talk but imagine the threat to Western society if there were both an economically powerful China and a militarily strong Russia. Middle Eastern nations and India, all this time just waiting to ally themselves with the stronger pact would love to abandon Western relations if given better opportunity. It would be Europe and North America against the rest of the world. But we have weak European mentality and treasonous Americans only criticizing and offering no better solutions.
    Comrade P. Is a genius. Now he is forcing the annexxed man to fight against their fomer countrymen! Give them some rusty AK47's and 7.62 unlimited ammo and have fun!

  6. #10884
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Obama would have helped poor and improved health assistance. US never do anything for free, but always got advantage from wars, even those they lost. Ukraine mean black sea. Now You are more rich with strong USD compare to falling at the moment, which is 0. 95 CHF and UK pound will also fall. But in France, since covid, our gouvernement protect us and til I find the good S5 to make work on french technology bioethanol 0. 60/ l, I buy nearly 650000 kms old lady which climb for my tour, diesel 0. 50/ l less expensive than in Germany -25% .
    Can you please enlighten us as to how the USA benefitted from losing the Vietnam War?

  7. #10883
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Obama would have helped poor and improved health assistance. US never do anything for free, but always got advantage from wars, even those they lost. Ukraine mean black sea. Now You are more rich with strong USD compare to falling at the moment, which is 0. 95 CHF and UK pound will also fall. But in France, since covid, our gouvernement protect us and til I find the good S5 to make work on french technology bioethanol 0. 60/ l, I buy nearly 650000 kms old lady which climb for my tour, diesel 0. 50/ l less expensive than in Germany -25% .
    Obama only gave out phones.

    This still leaves the place to receive mail, showers, transportation, etc. Which could be provided from the 44 billion.

  8. #10882
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    "Appeasement" was the European approach to Hitler. As in, European governments wanted to avoid war so they let Hitler one-by-one annex various territories in Europe. First they take Austria for being German lands filled with German people, sound familiar? Germany basically doubles their war coffers. Then he takes Sudetenland claiming German lands. Being pussies, French and British governments make a pact with Hitler, "okay you can have, but no more. " 6 months later, Hitler takes the rest of Czech gaining access to their gold reserves to feed their war machine. France and Britain again just says "no more," but just only big talk and no action. Now with a fully funded military force, they invade Poland 6 months later doubling their lands and accessing resources while "freeing ethnic Germans", enlisting men from Europe's 4th largest military forge to complete the Nazi war machine.

    Now with Putin following the same stepwise annexation playbook, claiming grounds of former soviet lands and ethnic origin, but this time with the US actually there to extend help and doing something about it, we have the same pussies who would dare criticize when the last time, their mentalities empowered an eventual war criminal who should have been stopped on Day 1. Same posters talk about governments "protecting" them the covid. What a bunch of pussies that obviously want to be ruled and need to be led.

    So easy to make big talk but imagine the threat to Western society if there were both an economically powerful China and a militarily strong Russia. Middle Eastern nations and India, all this time just waiting to ally themselves with the stronger pact would love to abandon Western relations if given better opportunity. It would be Europe and North America against the rest of the world. But we have weak European mentality and treasonous Americans only criticizing and offering no better solutions.
    If they would have let the Fuhrer destroy the Soviet Union then there would be no Comrade P. And no Ukraine war either. So what if the greater part of German people are united? This would have also prevented the Israel Palestine war, which led to Al-Quida plane attacks which also never would have occurred, and also probable never needed to develop nuclear weapons.

    As Comrade P. Said, the USA set a precedent to use nuclear weapons to defend Hawaii via escalating to deescalate.

  9. #10881
    "Appeasement" was the European approach to Hitler. As in, European governments wanted to avoid war so they let Hitler one-by-one annex various territories in Europe. First they take Austria for being German lands filled with German people, sound familiar? Germany basically doubles their war coffers. Then he takes Sudetenland claiming German lands. Being pussies, French and British governments make a pact with Hitler, "okay you can have, but no more. " 6 months later, Hitler takes the rest of Czech gaining access to their gold reserves to feed their war machine. France and Britain again just says "no more," but just only big talk and no action. Now with a fully funded military force, they invade Poland 6 months later doubling their lands and accessing resources while "freeing ethnic Germans", enlisting men from Europe's 4th largest military forge to complete the Nazi war machine.

    Now with Putin following the same stepwise annexation playbook, claiming grounds of former soviet lands and ethnic origin, but this time with the US actually there to extend help and doing something about it, we have the same pussies who would dare criticize when the last time, their mentalities empowered an eventual war criminal who should have been stopped on Day 1. Same posters talk about governments "protecting" them the covid. What a bunch of pussies that obviously want to be ruled and need to be led.

    So easy to make big talk but imagine the threat to Western society if there were both an economically powerful China and a militarily strong Russia. Middle Eastern nations and India, all this time just waiting to ally themselves with the stronger pact would love to abandon Western relations if given better opportunity. It would be Europe and North America against the rest of the world. But we have weak European mentality and treasonous Americans only criticizing and offering no better solutions.

  10. #10880
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    The USA paid over 16,000,000,000 USD to Ukraine! Enough to buy every homeless person in the USA an RV to live in, or brand new minivan. By the time this debacle is done the USA could have given every homeless person in the USA a house or prepapaid their rent for ten years. But assumming the Ukraine war will end then figure another 16 billion USD to rebuild the smoking rubble and ruins.
    Obama would have helped poor and improved health assistance. US never do anything for free, but always got advantage from wars, even those they lost. Ukraine mean black sea. Now You are more rich with strong USD compare to falling € at the moment, which is 0. 95 CHF and UK pound will also fall. But in France, since covid, our gouvernement protect us and til I find the good S5 to make work on french technology bioethanol 0. 60€/ l, I buy nearly 650000 kms old lady which climb for my tour, diesel 0. 50€/ l less expensive than in Germany -25% .

  11. #10879
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    I am just guessing, your main affection to Russia is not because you love comrade Putin or you love Russia, but because you love Russian's poons , rofl. Is that right ??
    I chose to learn Russian rather than German or Spanish which were usual second language we learned in France, when I was 12 . My parents asked me if I knew communist people? At 20 , we used to make army service. I was delayed because of my studies, but army didn t forget my tests and Russian, on 1989 when the world started to change. Russia is so interesting for culture. Putin gave to Russia nationalism pride, but he is now a shame for beautiful Russia. To eliminate for a better Russia. Wake up Russians and shoot the dirty, then You will have better life.

  12. #10878

    Good Chart of Support

    A webpag showing money paid to Ukraine:

    USA paid over 44 billion!

    Germany 3 billion. Pretty low.

    France 1 billion. Very low.

    England 6 billion!

    https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-a...pport-tracker/

  13. #10877
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    The USA paid over 16,000,000,000 USD to Ukraine! Enough to buy every homeless person in the USA an RV to live in, or brand new minivan. By the time this debacle is done the USA could have given every homeless person in the USA a house or prepapaid their rent for ten years. But assumming the Ukraine war will end then figure another 16 billion USD to rebuild the smoking rubble and ruins.
    I have no idea if you are right but I will take what you say at face value. All I am saying is other western nations are also contributing, especially the Brits.

  14. #10876
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Even corruption, like in Romania, but Ukraine didn't start this shameful war with shameful murders. For a Russia lover like me and for better life for Russians with their brothers Ukrainians, dirty Putin is to eliminate for a better world. Even China understood this.
    I am just guessing, your main affection to Russia is not because you love comrade Putin or you love Russia, but because you love Russian's poons , rofl. Is that right ??

  15. #10875
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    So now nearly all the gas to Europe comes from Norway. The terrorists, whichever nation state they are, better stay away! Or I'll find out and nuke them myself.
    I think it was the USA in order to keep Russia from profiting by gas sales. The USA wants a long drawn out war in order to print money to pay to the war machine companies to make weapons and ammo in order to give it away to Ukraine. The USA could care less if Europe freezes and in fact the USA benefits by selling gas to Europe and also by incrasing production while European factories decrease production.

    Thus the special interests behind the USA government (the war capitalists) benefit and have motive.

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