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  1. #7191
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Sorry that your daily life is not 100% as you want. Inconvenience is part of being an adult, but life is 90% normal for 90% of Americans, loose estimation. Completely normal in my area. So no idea about what "head in ass" claim means outside of media headlines that rile up emotions.

    Belittling the effect of this illness by stating that only the old and people with comorbidities have to worry does not factor that over 20% of the American population is over 65. Add people with comorbidities and and we are speaking about about one third of the population affected that you quickly disregard. In America, that is over 100 million at risk. Similar rates in Europe for elderly with perhaps less comorbidity. Either way, easily 25% of 500 million, another 125 million at risk.

    Fearmongering about possible future variants is quite manipulative in its own right. Possible sure, addressing the burning house that was the completely full hospitals over the winter with people needlessly dying or suffering from extended illness was of greater importance than an idealistic, academic consideration of "what ifs". Must be nice to have the luxury of considering ideal, theoretical sequela. But realities of the Front lines require emergency intervention. Academic theory is nice, but in cases of emergency, quick action is needed.

    While you promote a "let it burn" philosophy as a general rule, I only support this approach after considering the previous year's interventions because I feel that we have done enough to mitigate loss, given people time and options to protect themselves. "Let it rip" is my attitude now only because I don't believe in forcing people's hand after providing them the facts and tools and the most at risk groups have been vaccinated at a reasonable proportion. There is now a lower ceiling for maximum loss.

    Realities not Ideology.
    TLDR, let stop teaching silly idea like evolution in school. Let teach people the truth, that is intelligent design. The UK SAGE must be wrong then. Why would they worry about silly thing like immune escape? It is mess up that they got a lot of people to take vaccine, then say that high vaccination rate may lead to immune escape.

  2. #7190
    Quote Originally Posted by PinballMachine  [View Original Post]
    In the beginning, they said the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid.

    Then they changed it to, it will prevent you from getting really ill, when catching Covid.
    Don't forget they also, changes the PCR cycle threshold to make the vaccine look good. It still fail. So they move the goal post to prevent illness. You can't make this shit up.

  3. #7189
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    There are plenty of doctor saying they can easily cure long covid. But I'm not a doctor. I did not take the vaccine. I just do what these doctor said to prevent infection. Recently, due to contact tracing, I found out I unknowingly spent half a day with a positive person. And I'm negative. So, they must be doing something right.

  4. #7188
    Quote Originally Posted by PinballMachine  [View Original Post]
    Can you blame them? I mean putting on a mask is really the worst of the worst things in life!

    LOL.
    After a month in DEU I am back on US soil. Was in a supermarket today. Shocking to see almost nobody wears a mask. Substantial difference compared to DEU where masks indoors are a norm everywhere. On a side note, I also booked another 2 weeks returning to DEU in September. Cannot wait to be back. I admit I am a fucking FKK addict. LOL.

  5. #7187
    Quote Originally Posted by PinballMachine  [View Original Post]
    Can you blame them? I mean putting on a mask is really the worst of the worst things in life!

    LOL.
    I will vaccine only to keep my freedom, I hate mask, but I put on when I m asked and even in brothels. I write my real data to be contacted if needed, not to kill people from my way of life. Just respect for others, but not sure respect is very usual in US?

  6. #7186
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Cool story.
    Not so cool but pathetic and unrespectful with a injured woman, like at the beginning of covid, those US not wanting to put on mask who threatened coughing in face those who asked them to put. Didn't you hear about these 2? In France, we have also our big shame, I may be too stupid but can't understand in my country, more than 100 and I think nearly 180 before covid, women are killed by partner per year, even many women are beaten or psychological violented, but incredible figure and I feel shameful for my country of liberty.

  7. #7185
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.
    Can you blame them? I mean putting on a mask is really the worst of the worst things in life!

    LOL.

  8. #7184
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    Let it burn,. That is the only way out of the pandemic. Let live a good life. This is no way to live. Vaccine, lock down, mask forever. No, let it rip / burn.
    Well, that's more like a strategy than a way out. Just like vaccines are.

  9. #7183
    Quote Originally Posted by PinballMachine  [View Original Post]
    In the beginning, they said the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid.

    Then they changed it to, it will prevent you from getting really ill, when catching Covid.
    Things change. Delta exploded. Vaccines were tested when wild type, Kent, and South African strains were dominant.

    Not like they moved the goal post. The game changed. Science is not static.

    You work with the data you have, anticipate potential issues the best you can. Despite this, they are pretty useful in fighting this pandemic level illness.

  10. #7182
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.
    Cool story.

  11. #7181
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    Not sure what state you living in. Where I'm at, even fully vax can't go into the office. Only lab people can go in. And those fully vax lab people have to wear mask. They relax the mask thing for a few weeks. But oh No delta.


    You: evolution is theoretical. And real life something, something.
    Sorry that your daily life is not 100% as you want. Inconvenience is part of being an adult, but life is 90% normal for 90% of Americans, loose estimation. Completely normal in my area. So no idea about what "head in ass" claim means outside of media headlines that rile up emotions.

    Belittling the effect of this illness by stating that only the old and people with comorbidities have to worry does not factor that over 20% of the American population is over 65. Add people with comorbidities and and we are speaking about about one third of the population affected that you quickly disregard. In America, that is over 100 million at risk. Similar rates in Europe for elderly with perhaps less comorbidity. Either way, easily 25% of 500 million, another 125 million at risk.

    Fearmongering about possible future variants is quite manipulative in its own right. Possible sure, addressing the burning house that was the completely full hospitals over the winter with people needlessly dying or suffering from extended illness was of greater importance than an idealistic, academic consideration of "what ifs". Must be nice to have the luxury of considering ideal, theoretical sequela. But realities of the Front lines require emergency intervention. Academic theory is nice, but in cases of emergency, quick action is needed.

    While you promote a "let it burn" philosophy as a general rule, I only support this approach after considering the previous year's interventions because I feel that we have done enough to mitigate loss, given people time and options to protect themselves. "Let it rip" is my attitude now only because I don't believe in forcing people's hand after providing them the facts and tools and the most at risk groups have been vaccinated at a reasonable proportion. There is now a lower ceiling for maximum loss.

    Realities not Ideology.

  12. #7180
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    People without comorbidity have nothing to worry about. The vaccine work in preventing hospitalization and death in people with comorbidity. However, like antibiotic drug resistant bacteria. The vaccine is selecting for adaptive immunity resistant virus. Eventually will killing younger people as well. This is a forever pandemic.
    In the beginning, they said the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid.

    Then they changed it to, it will prevent you from getting really ill, when catching Covid.

  13. #7179
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    People without comorbidity have nothing to worry about.
    Once again, this is not true.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01433-3

    In these young adults, comorbidity was not significantly associated with persistent symptoms (33% versus 31%, P = 1) or fatigue (47% versus 27%, P = 0.2), although numbers of subjects were low

  14. #7178
    I wrote it many times, the vaccines have a efficiency around 50% like for the normal flue, if you are vaccinated, wearing a mask and frequently washing your hand the risks are quite low. But some places or activities are at higher risks like FKK which are at extreme risks. Despite fact that you are young, healthy not 1 serious doctor can guarantee you that you will not die from the covid. Looking at global figures will bring you nothing if you are in a ICU bed.

  15. #7177
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Wondering what head in ass means to you.

    Most of my country, USA, is completely wide open with some mask restrictions and some workplaces requiring vaccination. Schools are open. Bars open. People back to work. Basically you can do whatever you want.

    Hospitals are packed and with about a 5:1 unvaxxed to vaxxed ratio. Average age in my particular hospital just dropped to 59 years.

    So I have no idea what your bitching about when you say we.
    Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.

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