Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[DrPoon]

How can you know about Omicron strength to kill? When delta already killed too many. Who has knowledge about Omicron and vaccine efficiency?

Pretty much all of the USA Omicron cases the patient was double vaccinated and had mild symptoms. Then the South African reports of mild symptoms for unvaccinated. But excessive tiredness. Therefore the vaccine doesn't work at all for Omicran at normal doses and probably will not work for booster dose either.

[Paulie97]

The same logical way of reasoning is why the official covid story doesn't add up as well. Only idiots and fools beliefs in it.

Wingnut conspiracy theory chasers always cocoon themselves in an air of superiority. It's the only way they can protect their worldview from the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But in your case, if you were so smart you'd have had taxi fare, and would not have been wandering the streets of Germany all night in the cold after the sex clubs closed and before the trains started running again. End of story.

[Mursenary]

You are clearly not everyone, but I understand how your simple mind works. And even more so after this comment.

The fact that you don't see more than one end result, just enforces the idea that you have a narrow mind. It is only fruitless if you yourself is an NPC. While if you are a played character, it can have all sorts of fruits.

Alright Neo, keep fighting the good fight. We NPCs will make the best of this life.

[Mursenary]

How can you know about Omicron strength to kill? When delta already killed too many. Who has knowledge about Omicron and vaccine efficiency?

No one knows. Some of us have the education to construct a reasonable hypothesis with the data available. But maybe the weather reporter on FrenchTV has a better idea. Possible.

[Pistons]

The same logical way of reasoning is why the official covid story doesn't add up as well. Only idiots and fools beliefs in it.

[Pistons]

Jordan Peterson makes an interesting point in a video titled "Hitler was more evil than you think". He says wars are not always about acquiring resources. In this instance he says it may have been more about killing Jews and causing mayhem than winning a war. I am holding Jordan Peterson up as an authority. I do think he makes a interesting point.

Well, that runs along one of my former posts here. That a lot more happened behind the official news than anyone here knows. Because Hitler had just too many lost paths to victory. And he took none of them. So in essence the only logical reasoning was that he had either ulterior motifs, or that it was planned all along that they would lose.

[Pistons]

Every sane person who has entertained this now cliche idea eventually came to the conclusion, "If I go down this thought path, what would be the end result?" Most would quickly find that in the end, it is a fruitless thought process leading to a situation in which he has no power to change anything. It would not be worth another second of thought to be wasted.

Then there are others who might have some delusion that he's Neo who is going to break the Matrix.

You are clearly not everyone, but I understand how your simple mind works. And even more so after this comment.

The fact that you don't see more than one end result, just enforces the idea that you have a narrow mind. It is only fruitless if you yourself is an NPC. While if you are a played character, it can have all sorts of fruits.

[Sirioja]

Official new rules (Verordnung) are there for NRW:

https://www.land.nrw/pressemitteilun...zierungen-fuer

And.

https://www.land.nrw/media/25554/download?attachment

As of tomorrow Disco's, Clubs etc have to close (Article 5). But. As you can see in Article 4, sex clubs, etc can stay open (for now) under 2 G+ rules.

"(3) Die folgenden Einrichtungen, Angebote und Ttigkeiten therfen aufgrund der vorliegenden.

Erkenntnisse ber die in 1 Absatz 3 genannten Faktoren vorbehaltlich der nachfolgenden.

Abstze nur noch von immunisierten Personen in Anspruch genommen, besucht oder als Teilnehmenden ausgebt werden, die zustzlich ber einen negativen Testnachweis I'm Sinne von..

Incredible illogical discotheques have to close, when risky brothels remain open.

[Mursenary]

Jordan Peterson makes an interesting point in a video titled "Hitler was more evil than you think". He says wars are not always about acquiring resources. In this instance he says it may have been more about killing Jews and causing mayhem than winning a war. I am holding Jordan Peterson up as an authority. I do think he makes a interesting point.

Within an hour of reading this post, that exact video showed up on my YouTube feed. The powers that be can make it a little less obvious that they're listening.

[Maxime]

Thanks, they leave it open what to do with sauna (clubs), mongering, etc. It will be different in every region (state), in NRW they don't want any relation (anymore) with the incident rate.

Today more details about all new rules.

Official new rules (Verordnung) are there for NRW:

https://www.land.nrw/pressemitteilun...zierungen-fuer

And.

https://www.land.nrw/media/25554/download?attachment

As of tomorrow Disco's, Clubs etc have to close (Article 5). But. As you can see in Article 4, sex clubs, etc can stay open (for now) under 2 G+ rules.

"(3) Die folgenden Einrichtungen, Angebote und Tätigkeiten theürfen aufgrund der vorliegenden.

Erkenntnisse über die in § 1 Absatz 3 genannten Faktoren vorbehaltlich der nachfolgenden.

Absätze nur noch von immunisierten Personen in Anspruch genommen, besucht oder als Teilnehmenden ausgeübt werden, die zusätzlich über einen negativen Testnachweis I'm Sinne von.

§ 2 Absatz 8 a Satz 1 verfügen müssen:

1. Tanzveranstaltungen einschließlich private Feiern mit Tanz sowie Karnevalsveranstaltungen und vergleichbare Brauchtumsveranstaltungen in Innenräumen.

2. Bordelle, Prostitutionsstätten, Swingerclubs und ähnliche Einrichtungen sowie die Erbringung und Inanspruchnahme sexueller Dienstleistungen außerhalb von Einrichtungen."

[Sirioja]

That's the national policy. But each state can add its own restrictions. Seems like Hessen already place a lower 250 incidence threshold.

It seems that would rule out Sharks in Darmstadt since they currently sitting above 300 incidence.

Good news is that the release says that incidence is going down nationally over the last 3 days. I just don't like how they're still using incidence and not hospital metrics. Omicron has shown to be more transmissible but less virulent so it would be easy for numbers to go up with hospital loads not rising as much.

How can you know about Omicron strength to kill? When delta already killed too many. Who has knowledge about Omicron and vaccine efficiency?

[Mursenary]

Can someone post a link to the incidence page so each city can be looked up to see what level it is at?

https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...3b17327b2bf1d4

[Mursenary]

Come on guys. The best predictor of the future is the past. We all know that if "nightclubs" get shut down, then the FKK "sauna clubs" are going down too. Just like before. We know it. So, may as well get mentally prepared to accept it if and when it happens.

In late summer, nightclubs had to remain closed for longer than the sauna clubs and bars serving food. In Hessen for sure and I believe also in NRW. There is some distinction there. In the US, there is often a distinction for venues that serve food as a certain percentage of their revenue. Strip clubs in my city were allowed to open so long as food sales made up something like a 3rd of their sales.

[Sirioja]

Was listening to a German virologist on DW answering this question incidence vs. Occupancy. He said hospital index is considered acceptable until hospitals start transferring patients. Then if it's like Armageddon and triage kicks the patients out on the streets, the hospital index can no longer be calculated. A side issue is hospital underreporting due to a weak reporting technology, like using outdated fax transmission instead of uniform data streaming or upload etc. As the government must foresee the worst, they are switching to the incidence before occupancy index becomes too problematic.

Some German hospitals had to delay other operations, full under covid.

[BobNSuzy]

I actually think Germany could have invaded Britain with the right tactics and enough submarines to pave the way. But they wanted too much money on useless battleships etc, and didn't focus their efforts well enough.

Jordan Peterson makes an interesting point in a video titled "Hitler was more evil than you think". He says wars are not always about acquiring resources. In this instance he says it may have been more about killing Jews and causing mayhem than winning a war. I am holding Jordan Peterson up as an authority. I do think he makes a interesting point.