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  1. #1749
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Hamertime. You are a funny guy, sad to see that your psychiatric is still sick or he could take care of you. Sweden how many people, how many deaths? Just try to answer this very simple question and may be you can change your mind.
    Sad that you have to resort to name calling and cheap insults, and of course you bring no new facts to the table.

    Talking about facts, here are the facts about Sweden's deaths, compared to a bunch of other countries: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc.

  2. #1748
    Hamertime. You are a funny guy, sad to see that your psychiatric is still sick or he could take care of you. Sweden how many people, how many deaths? Just try to answer this very simple question and may be you can change your mind.

  3. #1747
    And next time you hear Trump comes out and says 'America first'. Think about it! Is it really Trump who came up with that? I don't think so! It is all about automation and technological superiority. Trump is not smart enough. He was put there as a puppet for a reason.

  4. #1746
    We know for example that the introduction of new technologies mainly happens in great leaps, at times of economic problems. Even if we have had the option to start using new technologies for a long time already, there have been interests withholding them from being realized at its potential. For example outsourcing to poor countries instead of automation. Or the luddite idea that people are afraid of loosing their jobs due to automation. All perfectly lined up to be changed now with covid-19!

    We also know that the countries who first adopt new technologies on a large scale will be the financial leaders of the world in trade for decades to come.

    A recent study has found out that just in the USA, 47% of all jobs can already be fully automated away. And the percentages are higher than that in the vast majority of countries around the world.

    But in order to later export this new automation, it is essential to first get it domestically.

  5. #1745
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-da...lse-positives/

    Annualized mortaility rates, even when arranged by age cohort on a histogram, also speaks to bad data that drives bad policy. The author of this is no light weight sociological fad BS artist.
    I read half of it now (and will read the rest later).

    But this one is of key importance:

    "We now know that lockdown made no difference at all to the spread of the virus. We can tell this because the interval between catching the virus and, in those who don't make it, their death is longer than the interval between lockdown and peak daily deaths. ".

    He also says that he does not look at politics. Clearly!

    Because as I have said here several times already, this whole covid-19 thing is one massive coverup trying to take the blunt of the financial crisis. As seen in the repo loan payouts starting September 2019, and was covered up massively by the MSM.

    Wallstreetonparade has written hundreds of articles about this for a more in debt look.

    The thing is, like Trump says: China, China, China.

    And what the Chinese economic model and size delivers as consequences to the rest of the world, and to USA in particular. Coupled that with the fake fiat monetary system we are using today, and you have a recipe for a great coverup: Machiavellian style.

    Here is a good video interview with Gerald Celente:

    https://youtu.be/43xrrFW5L3Q

    He is of curse one of these gold and silver guys. And that is the historical way to get through these fiat collapses we have seen dousins of times through history since ancient times. But nowadays, due to information technology and blockchain, I believe the central banks have another way out of it. But it will take some time for them realise it and get their butts moving. And it will mean massive changes to alot of people. Especially perhaps in banking.

    Oh, and the CO2 bullshit with Greta Thunberg and all of that is all just a part of the same thing. Which is also why we get a lockdown.

    Basically, we need a great leap in innovation and new technology. The country that leads the world in technology, will lead the world. And USA is scared of loosing the world hegemony to China.

    China on their part is also scared of being left in the dirt for another century. So possibly the Chinese let the virus out without telling the US financial backers, or the French.

    Another option is of course the Orwellian theory that the powers all conspire against the dumb people, and are creating an artificial conflict.

    But in either cases, this covid-19, and the global warming co2 bullshit is both part of an economic war between China (and its allies), and the west and its allies.

  6. #1744
    EL: but this is a joke, when I was much younger (white Christian) many many times I was blocked to enter discos, and I was never thinking about discrimination, racism. Today the people don t accept any selection immediately they speak about racism, discrimination but in fact all our life we are facing selections, for a job, for the beautiful girls (some guys don t need to pay for prostitutes), for our heath, for our sex (M or F), more the people react about racism, discrimination more in fact the people who financially can afford it will do everything not to live in poor areas, put their children in the best schools, now they will sell their apartments in the city centres to move to a house in the country to have a better live during corona time. And the poor people will still stay where they are and I can also predict that the city centres will get poorer and poorer with more and more criminality, with more and more people with immigration background having no other choice.

  7. #1743
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-da...lse-positives/

    Annualized mortality rates, even when arranged by age cohort on a histogram, also speaks to bad data that drives bad policy. The author of this is no light weight sociological fad BS artist.
    Definitely not a stakeholder. Just here to call out the bullshit here and there. Bad policy perhaps and perhaps poor use of decent data but the data itself isn't bad. Author discussed flaws in testing and perhaps there are, but he is quoting numbers in regards to test specificity and positive predicted values that are well within range of most gold standard diagnosing purposes. This is where his background as a molecular scientist and not a clinician becomes evident. That and his false equivalence discussion of Flu / SARS / MERS are glaring weaknesses in his case.

    Point is, the number of concern is not the questionably useful positivity rates and definitely not the short-sighted mortality rate discussions. The real time data that gives the most insight into how serious you should take the coronavirus threat is hospitalization rates. Numbers are reliable and pertinent to assessing threat regardless of flaws in testing, cause of death arguments, blah blah blah. If it makes you sick enough to be hospitalized, we should probably take it seriously. As it stands, covid is 4-20 times more likely to put a person in the hospital versus the flu. In populations under 50, hospitalization rates are roughly 1/1000. That's a pretty significant risk for such a young age group.

    That being said, no one knows where the scales will tilt when comparing morbidity costs versus socio-economic cost. Discussions of mortality and prevalence data have been bastardized, but hospitalization rates are harder to manipulate. Running data in the USA, 443,000 people have been hospitalized in the states. That's more than 1/1000 Americans who were sick enough to be hospitalized regardless of death. By the end of the winter, that number will climb to at least 1 in 500.

  8. #1742
    "There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." - Søren Kierkegaard.

    Most people are still shell shocked and 'frozen' after the initial panic in March-April, and refuse to accept new facts and statistics.

    In the meantime, the virus is not as deadly as previously thought, infection mortality rates (a median 0,23% on page 7 on the WHO link below, and even 0,05% for people 70) are comparable to the normal flu, Sweden has proved that lockdowns and mask wearing is not necessary, the PCR test is seriously flawed to identify "cases" as already pointed out (see link below) by the PCR test inventor himself, and the hope for a quick "vaccine" is shattered by setbacks. (a vaccine takes 5-10 years to properly weed out the potentially deadly side effects).

    https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_....20.265892.pdf

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/vsKaBsWhC3CQ/

    Most 'men' here are acting like little girls, frozen in fear by the initial reporting in March.

    P.S. A German trial lawyer is preparing a class action case against the German RKI and Christian Drosten for their fraudulent use of the PCR test. Link in English: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mcyXyT3D5QFi/.

  9. #1741
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Pfizer save mankind for strong erection at older age and now Pfizer save mankind by saving FKK via finding the cure for the virus that is the cause of the closure or limited operation of many FKK!

    I hear nothing from Hessen? NRW opened, artemins opened, Globe Zurich opened, but what about Hessen region? I hope palace and Oase will be able to operate again before it is too late for them to sustain the closure fee!
    Hessen still closed, GT NRW also, LR have to close earlier, Samya Koln and Artemis have limitations. 6 ens NL had to close. And covid is growing again. Hard times to come, many countries confining.

  10. #1740

    For Mursenary and COVID stakeholders

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-da...lse-positives/

    Annualized mortaility rates, even when arranged by age cohort on a histogram, also speaks to bad data that drives bad policy. The author of this is no light weight sociological fad BS artist.

  11. #1739
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    Do you think countries are right to restrict people's movement now? Your own answer to it will give you answers (that you want to hear, not necessarily the correct answer) to all your questions above. Good luck.
    Gino,

    You repeatedly dodge the question. From the beginning I said countries have a right to monitor and protect their borders. Do governments have right to curtail and restrict movements of people inside their countries? Yes, the Soviets needed permission to go from place to place inside their own borders, so did the Chinese. People forced into concentration camps could not move around, and people in prisons are not allowed to move around. I guess you are advocating something along those lines, at least for the people with Asian look?

    And you still have not explained why it is great in your view that Sweden has implemented zero restrictions and yet you think it is right for certain people to be blocked at the FKK doors.

    Anyway, non answers are answers and I will let this go. Thank you.

  12. #1738
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I hear nothing from Hessen? NRW opened, artemins opened, Globe Zurich opened, but what about Hessen region? I hope palace and Oase will be able to operate again before it is too late for them to sustain the closure fee!
    Yeah very weird. Almost feels like the Hesse government is fucking with the tourist mongers who go to the Hesse FKKs most?

  13. #1737
    If Sweden deal with the covid like they did with prostitution, I understand very well the fiasco in that country because of stupid politicians.

  14. #1736
    As I've stated before the Oxford & Astra Zeneca vaccine is looking on target to produce results, further good news today.

    Regards the Brazilian man who sadly died, he was on a placebo so it has no connection with the vaccine.

    This trial is looking like the worlds best hope & unlike dodgy Chinese & Russian vaccines, this is going through all the safety checks.

    The big question is how quickly will the vaccine be made available to the public so that we can once again return to FKK World with a reasonable level of safety?

    https://apple.news/APazsU-bfTUG7u6JNv6aGVA

  15. #1735
    Cure (vaccine) is worse than the disease?

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l.../PIIS0140-6736(20) 32156-5/ fulltext.

    "Cure worse than disease? Some Covid-19 vaccines may increase HIV risk, scientists warn".

    https://www.rt.com/news/504224-covid...andidates-hiv/

    A Covid1984 "vaccine" + people running around in FKK clubs fucking hookers! What a perfect combination!! LOL!

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