Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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11-09-20 18:47 #2037
Posts: 1138Originally Posted by Ararat [View Original Post]
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11-09-20 18:35 #2036
Posts: 410Something for the conspiracy theorists that news that the vaccine is almost ready is published on the first weekday after consensus was that Biden won.
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11-09-20 18:28 #2035
Posts: 537Originally Posted by HammerTime96 [View Original Post]
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11-09-20 18:26 #2034
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by Gino02 [View Original Post]
A bit sad to see this sort of whiny desperation from Trump supporters.
The vaccine is not any more ready today than it was yesterday but the news have been released today. In any case, Trump ignored Fauci and others and put all his eggs in one basket when they kept saying it would not be ready by Nov 3. But this is a piece of good news and hopefully we can get some control on this and be able to return to pre covid movement levels in a few months. I am sure you welcome the opportunity to travel and visit your favorite fuck clubs in Europe and so do I.
Let's face it. Trump has been a major fuck up. I mean, he can't even do the legal contests properly. Putting Rudy in charge is not the best strategy. In 2000, Bush had hundreds of lawyers ready and waiting, paid and money raised, to focus on one state. Trump is making a lot of empty noise and playing golf and throwing shit in every direction (kinda like a fuckterd "doctor" on this site).
The guy is fucking incompetent. The only thing he has been any good is somehow convincing 70 mil voters he is their one and only savior regardless of how much he screws up. He had good instincts on China trade and some elements of popularism in US economics given the widening income / wealth disparities but he is too much of a scatterbrain to actually execute on anything. I am not thrilled Biden is coming in, but AOC / Bernie will not dominate given the senate situation and it is actually an OK thing to have a lot of logjam in DC. When pols have too much power, they fuck it up regardless of the party affiliation. It is good to have a deadlocked bunch of guys on both sides.
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11-09-20 18:10 #2033
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by HammerTime96 [View Original Post]
-No vaccine for common cold because the "common cold" is not caused by one specific virus. Hundreds of different viruses may cause the symptoms described as the "common cold."
-Influenza vaccines obviously exist and have decent efficacy. Annual requirements are due to the fact that it replicates extremely fast compared to most other viruses. The shorter the life cycle, the more mutations, increasing the possibility of the mutation providing resistance to vaccines. For comparison, coronavirus replication is, at minimum, twice as long, with mutation rates possibly up to a whole degree of magnitude longer because it has an even longer latent period.
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11-09-20 17:09 #2032
Posts: 1138Coronavirus vaccine ready!
Told you. Coronavirus will be cured in November if Trump loses.
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11-09-20 10:34 #2031
Posts: 717Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
Ask yourself this: "why hasn't anybody made a good vaccine yet for the normal cold and the seasonal flu during the last 20-30-40 years?
So why would anybody now be able to quickly make a vaccine in 1 year time, against a constantly mutating virus?
As the saying goes, "hope dies last." Keep on hoping for the impossible, and keep on ignoring the natural solution that has worked for thousands of years that is right in front of your nose: herd immunity!
Look at the Swedish numbers: flat-lining since July, while the rest of Europe keeps on slowly rising. The irony: the countries where the rising is steepest, are the countries with the most strict and most absurd rules (Spain, France, UK), and the only country where the curve has flat-lined is Sweden which has the least amount of madness and the least amount of crazy rules about masks and social distancing:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc
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11-09-20 10:07 #2030
Posts: 717Sweden and herd immunity strategy works!
Look at the data: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc.
Sweden's "death per millions" has flat-lined since July, but in the rest of Europe with their stupid lockdowns and face diaper 'strategy,' not so much.
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11-09-20 01:56 #2029
Posts: 1680Lol
Originally Posted by HammerTime96 [View Original Post]
"We have to look at that viral evolution, we have to create the biosecurity around farms like that so that there is not that contact back with human populations. And we have to address all of those issues. But, right now, the evidence that we have does not suggest that this variant is in any way different in the way it behaves," he added.
Ryan said the WHO would have to evaluate whether the mutation of the virus among the mink population is different in terms of its clinical severity or whether there is any implication for diagnostics or vaccines. "But we are a long, long way away from making any determination of that kind," he said.
Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, the World Health Organization's chief scientist, said it would be unwise to jump to any conclusions following reports of the mutated virus found among mink farms in Denmark.
"I think that we need to wait and see what the implications are, but I don't think we should come to any conclusions about whether this particular mutation is going to impact vaccine efficacy or not," Swaminathan said.
"We don't have any evidence at the moment that it would. But we will update you as we get more information."
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11-09-20 01:22 #2028
Posts: 112Originally Posted by ExpatLover [View Original Post]
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11-09-20 00:15 #2027
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by ExpatLover [View Original Post]
Point in short is that the scary idea of mutating viruses is just that, scarier than it sounds. Possible to render a vaccine useless, but more often than not, they are insignificant.
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11-08-20 22:00 #2026
Posts: 4759Originally Posted by Tuber19 [View Original Post]
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11-08-20 21:42 #2025
Posts: 22245Second wave just starting, will kill many, and already telling about third wave. I will play Zlatan Ibrahimovic, no vaccine for me. Chinese and Russian vaccines should not be allowed in France. Wish for US, Biden will have power very soon, rather than crazy golfer, before too many new deaths there.
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11-08-20 21:04 #2024
Posts: 717New SARS-CoV-2 strain found in Denmark?
Of course, anyone with 2 braincells could have figured out that a vaccination against a permanently mutating Corona virus is not going to work, but the lies and scaremongering of geriatric people afraid of a flu and their own shadow seem to have the loudest voice here on ISG.
For all the fools still hoping for a "vaccine:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/06/who-...a-vaccine.html
"The detection of the mutated virus among minks has raised questions about the effectiveness of a future Covid-19 vaccine."
https://www.newscientist.com/article...n-farmed-mink/
"The Danish prime minister described the mutated virus as "a serious risk to public health and to the development of a vaccine."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54842643
"Every time the virus spreads between animals it changes, and if it changes too much from the one that is circulating within humans at the moment, that might mean that any vaccine or treatment that will be produced soon might not work as well as it should do," she explained."
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11-08-20 20:20 #2023
Posts: 284Merkel: Nurses and doctors vaccinate first against coronavirus.
https://rejerusalem.com/287436/merkel-nurses-and-doctors-vaccinate-first-against-coronavirus/
((The federal government hopes that the first vaccines will be approved very soon. "So of course there will not be enough vaccines available", said the Chancellor and stressed: "No one will be forced to be vaccinated, it is a voluntary decision".
Preparations for a vaccination campaign are underway. Federal states have planned their own vaccination centers. It remains to be seen how much vaccine will be available and how long that vaccine will be immunized. The main task is to make the population as a whole immune to the virus. If 60 to 70 percent of the population are immune by vaccination or a disease from which they have suffered the virus is "more or less defeated," Merkel said. " *Then we can also lift all the restrictions* " she said.)).
Lets hope this is done ASAP.