Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Sirioja]

Also found in Northern Italy last Autumn, a retest of bloodwork taken at that time showed the virus was already circulating. https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idINKBN27V0KH.

Italy is in Western Europe for me, even also Southern. At this time, nobody knew about this virus, our doctors thinking about grippe, but Chinese knew but didn't give information about this killer virus which probably killed much more than they claim in China, land of truth and reliability.

[Downandup]

Arrived in Western Europe in October 2019 after military sport competition in China. In Europe, doctors didn't know what it was, and Chinese lied for months.

Also found in Northern Italy last Autumn, a retest of bloodwork taken at that time showed the virus was already circulating. https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idINKBN27V0KH.

[BigBuddy69]

But obviously not the most accurate.

So many inaccurate newspapers according to you.

https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

https://www.ft.com/content/67fc5152-...c-79e1bf2b68e2

What should I read? Your Facebook page?

[Sirioja]

When you seem so scared about this virus, and you are right if you are at health risk, like diabetes or obese or cancer or weak health, but you should also know there are risks about vaccines, furthermore when they were made rushing, becoming now a big business to come. I won't take these vaccines, even Chinese and Russian should not be allowed in France, being maybe more risky than virus, for me.

[ShooBree]

LE Monde is one of the most serious newspapers of the whole planet.

But obviously not the most accurate.

[Sirioja]

The first cases were observed in China in July and August 2019. Too slow to react!

Arrived in Western Europe in October 2019 after military sport competition in China. In Europe, doctors didn't know what it was, and Chinese lied for months.

[Sirioja]

Aren't Swedish universities almost closed? When Stockholm competed with NYC for deaths rate, worst in Europe.

[Smoke Light]

You read my mind. Especially the ending part. Who among you thinks vaccines will be required for travel, entering FKK's? And who's going to get them if required?

If required for travel, vaccination process has to be somehow certifiable. I've been reading few months ago there could be international travel agreements between the countries. My wild guess is you'll have to register with a consulate web site and enter your passport info together with immunization history.

What scares me is roughly half of US population could ignore the vaccine. If virus still raging in the US while Europe gets it under control, we US mongers experience another setback of inadmissibility to European countries. Complete speculation but keeps me awake at night.

Each media report on vaccines goes along with visuals of 5 inch needles penetrating someone's shoulder. WTF! I don't see how this is helping in the right direction, most likely contributing to a needle anxiety in a large segment of population. My 2 cents.

[Sirioja]

What are the vaccine plans in Europe and in each country? PFE / Biontech and MRNA have the most advanced vaccines but they can only make 45 mil doses (sufficient for 22-23 million people) by January. This is going to be a international political brawl? There was a press release from the companies that EU will be supplied out of the factories based in EU. I don't know if the above mentioned 45 mil doses by Jan includes both US and EU or just US. And in any case, that amount covers just a sliver of the population. Is it upto the companies to decide how many doses to supply to various countries or is there any protocol to this? I suppose by the end of 2021 or somewhere in 2022 there would be enough production to supply all, but the trick is what happens between now and then. There could be a lot of unpleasantness if say, cases spike in UK suddenly and politicians over there demand that their order be fulfilled but Biontech prioritizes supply to Germany for example.

Obviously Astra and other companies also have their own vaccines in development but I can see there would be some heated rhetoric on who gets the vaccine first in the coming months. Not to mention, there are 7 billion+ people in the world but for now the priority will go to those in US / EU unfortunately. There could be a big discussion of race / income / other ethics if it happens that cases are brought down sufficiently in the West and yet they keep administering vaccine to cover 70/80% of the population while say cases and deaths spike up uncontrollably in some poor, third world country. In such a scenario, there would be the inevitable discussion of "are those lives less important"?

I also don't know how much of a problem is the lack of cold chain in all these countries. I think the 45 mil doses from PFE+MRNA is an ideal situation number? If 45 mil doses are produced does not mean that many are administered because of the rigorous need for cold chain. That is tough enough in developed countries but could be a nightmare in third world. A whole bunch of doses may spoil while sitting in a leaked cold facility or sitting on a tarmac on a hot day.

Moderna have French boss, but I won't even take Sanofi vaccine. I have my own test, my sports. Wish to go to free ride for Christmas at 3000 meters high, to test my heart and lungs from big shocks under violence of real sport. Would be my best present and I need it.

[Canary]

You read my mind. Especially the ending part. Who among you thinks vaccines will be required for travel, entering FKK's? And who's going to get them if required?

I will certainly have no issue having the vaccine but it may take a few months until my age group is allowed to take it.

Initially for several months or possibly longer proof of having had the vaccine will be required to allow you to fly and avoid the pre COVID checks.

With regards to FKK land I would be totally amazed if the German authorities don't use as a prerequisite to reopening the need for men & women to provide evidence that a vaccine has been taken.

[Sirioja]

You said you go every weekend to Germany, Austria or Switzerland with your Manual Audi from Paris, you already forgot what you said before continuously?

Your problem is you don't understand English, like you don't know much about Romanian girls.

[BigBuddy69]

Well, that's incorrect. There are no lockdown, nor any light lockdown. Even if they wanted to, which they don't, they can't legally do so. You have stop reading and believe everything that fake news writes.

The "former" strategy was working excellent, in fact almost every other country have copied that strategy.

LE Monde is one of the most serious newspapers of the whole planet.

[ExpatLover]

You read my mind. Especially the ending part. Who among you thinks vaccines will be required for travel, entering FKK's? And who's going to get them if required?

I have no idea what is sure as soon as possible I will get the vaccine, for so many years I got so many vaccines one more or less will change nothing for me and if it can make my life easier why not.

[MaxSquatter]

You read my mind. Especially the ending part. Who among you thinks vaccines will be required for travel, entering FKK's? And who's going to get them if required?

The Russia Collusion accusation was proven to be a hoax. Now let's see if the Election Software rigging accusation is proven real or hoax. Time to sit back, relax and enjoy another show while we eagerly wait for the smart people to come to senses to reopen the FKKs so that we can again shoot our loads into the beautiful Romanian mouths.

[ShooBree]

You said you go every weekend to Germany, Austria or Switzerland with your Manual Audi from Paris, you already forgot what you said before continuously?

I'm not surprised, trolls usually expose themselves as liars sooner or later.