Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Gino02]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/austr...ntl/index.html

Is this an example of a garbage input (I mean the lies) produces garbage output (meaning stupid orders) if the software (meaning the brain of that decision maker) is missing data validation filter (meaning sanity), or missing logic (meaning brain cells LOL)?

[Pahllus Maximus]

Let Biden hand out $100 restaurant and $200 hooker vouchers. I like much of what AOC says, making the books more balanced rather than leaving money on the table. And if she's wants to decriminalize the hobby, she got my vote, plus she is smart and young. We need more of them and less flaccid old white guys. Sex is great to bond people, create empathy and get money circulating at the low level. And yes, AOC is hot, but I'm more interested in her ideas and brains.

Next year is going to be a sex extravaganza!

[Pessimist]

AOC does get it right on sex work. I disagree with her on everything else, but she does totally get it on sex work, even drilling down into the evils of Fosta / Sesta.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/15/aoc-ki...bitious-goals/

Kamala Harris is the one to be concerned about, given her past record.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ident-1043941/

https://reason.com/2019/04/23/harris...eason-roundup/

The mainstream media is simply incapable of having a reasonable discussion regarding sex work.

Kamala supports the Nordic Model, not decriminalization, although you wouldn't know it from her years as California Attorney General, where she went after women doing street prostitution and low-cost classified advertising, and was an immediate architect of Fosta / Sesta upon entering the USA Senate.

Kamala has no substance and merely blows with the wind. Consequently, it is possible that the left wing women supporting full decriminalization will have some sway with her, particularly if the prevailing attitudes of the country go that direction. When she was California Attorney General, the trafficking myth folks (beware of that Super Bowl) were out in force. So it is simply a matter of who has her ear on the subject, since her apparent lack of brainpower makes it difficult for her to make a decision based on competing data..

The squad is irrelevant. If Dems had any sense, they would ignore them. Pols who come ultra safe districts / states are always useless. The tend to be the most extreme and just fuck it up for everyone else.

As far as views on legalizing prostitution go, what is the upside to any politician? Especially a pol gunning for nationwide or even statewide election? It will hardly pull in any new votes and will only turn off some / many. Even if they have a constructive view, they would keep quiet. Should. I would, if I were running for office.

It is one of those issues which is best swept under the rug. Don't know if it is the third rail, but there is extremely minimal upside. Not today. If this changes in 40 years from now remains to be seen and by that time I could be dead or might not care anyway.

We had some discussion about strip clubs a few months ago and the consensus was that they have gone down the hill, became more seedy, have worse service, more hands off. The same attitude permeates all of the paid sex scene in the public domain. Ironically, even as every single politician and churchman all the way to POTUS and pants down Falwell have been literally caught with their dicks in some girl's mouth, the political climate has not changed very much in favor of such legalization. I am no expert, far from it, but that is my layman's read. The best one can hope for is that they will let the sugarbabe type stuff alone, as it is really not that different from consensual sex between adults except there may be some quiet exchange of gifts in addition to body fluids.

[Mursenary]

That said, I do think Shobre is from Sweden because that ghetto name isn't in the dictionaries. Maybe he's from an Arab area in the US but I think he's from one of the Stockholm ghettos such as Rinkeby or Alby. Everytime I visit Berlin there are groups of young MENA men onboard who are headed for Artemis. I have seen use him a ghetto insult in Swedish too.

I think you may be correct. Like here in the USA, people of lower socioeconomic means are the ones that are much more care-free regarding their actions on this pandemic. Some must work because of the nature of their jobs, but at non-essential late night social venues, the people out and about are generally more of the riff raff. Even amongst the young 20 something year olds, the more well-to-do ones are not out at these venues as much as the rougher crowds.

Yes of course we are too stupid to know the Cuomo brothers. We can also watch CNN (strong democrats supporters) or Fox (Trump supporters) available for free. I really appreciate the American people, worked with them several years and it was a great pleasure, the things are straight forward, clear like working with German people. You should not trying to segregate US and Europe never forget that 90% if not more of the Americans are coming from Europe, just check where your grand parents are from.

You misunderstand. It was not an insult to Europeans. It was a remark that most Europeans do not follow the tabloid drama of barely relevant American news anchors.

90% is absolutely too high. Europeans descendants probably make up roughly 60-65% of America with some grey areas due to the mixed genetic make up of South and Central American immigrants. African lineage about 13%. South and Central Americans about another 15%. Asians about 5%. 5% from other backgrounds.

It's absolutely not a "light lockdown", unless the definition of a lockdown changed drastically the last couple of days.

It's still possible to move freely, all malls, restaurants, shops, massage parlors and gyms are still opened. There are no lockdowns, there's no difference between now and March / April. The restaurants are still packed of people, probably even more so than in March. So your false claim that Sweden changed its strategy is incorrect. Or well, the nursing homes allows visitors now. More importantly, no lockdown! Still open for business!

Point is that there are some mandated restrictions and in practice, the population are acting responsibly and the virus factors into the average Swede's decisions on level of physical distancing. Voluntarily but similar effect nonetheless.

Yes, "Lock down" should be better defined.

First of all, the days of glamorous doctor are largely pass. Let us ignore the pomposity of oh I am so cool, I mix with the common folk and deign to speak to the repairman crap. In all likelihood, the unionized plumber, electrician etc is charging 125 to 150 an hour while some of the familycare guys are collecting such feeble amounts after the payment companies squeeze them so badly. For some specific personal reasons, a large % of the social gatherings / parties I attend with my spouse happen to be predominantly w / physician friends and fa.

You're like a squealing greased pig, sprinting around from point to point while rolling in the mud. The term "perceived prestige" is referring directly to thought processes such as yours. In an attempt to make personal jabs, you are the primary perpetuator of this phenomenon. In an attempt to discredit me, someone who, of all things boastful, has never boasted about occupational prestige, you reveal your own personal sentiments of both perceived prestige and apparently personal disdain regarding the profession. There seems to be a fabricated recollection of events in your mind regarding my own personal boasting of occupation as I surely doubt that you can produce anything of the sort in the record.

Your impression of the occupation seems to also be very limited. As most physicians in the US have a molecular biology undergraduate background, most are easily capable of speaking eloquently regarding matters of hard science, some moreso than others. The occupation is also quite diverse in settings and personalities as there will be a broad spectrum of personalities and science focus from primary clinicians, to radiologist, orthopedic surgeons, emergency physicians, and the basement dwelling pathologists. And goes without saying, people within those specialties are also diverse individuals.

Your arrogance in insulting more blue collar workers and even respectable researchers reinforce such simple views towards other people. Now insulting mid level practitioners too, your worldview is disgusting. You seem to be a man of limited social interaction with little exposure to diverse socio-economic demographics. There seems to be a tendency to put people in boxes that is just not consistent with reality. But I'll directly ask, South Asian or just another dorky white dude?

Lastly Boomer, I'm quick with the phone. Being a Millennial and all.

[Mongerer88]

If you look at the 4 quadrants: fiscal hawk social liberal, fiscal dove social liberal, fiscal dove social conservative, fiscal hawk social conservative, the one with the least popularity. ... Being fiscally conservative socially liberal works for the upper middle, educated classes in NYC / SF and Boston. The lower middle class White voters on the coasts and people in the flyover country did not benefit from the Reagan economics of trickle down. They are there for picking by the fiscal dove, socially conservative pol at some point.

I agree. Social conservativism gives people something to have when it comes to identity politics.

In rural America, this often centers around church, which rails against abortion.

They believe, with some accuracy, that the government just prints money and hands it out to everyone but them.

So fiscal dove, social conservative appeals to a lot of Americans, especially in rural America where guns are popular.

[Pessimist]

First of all, the days of glamorous doctor are largely passé. Let us ignore the pomposity of oh I am so cool, I mix with the common folk and deign to speak to the repairman crap. In all likelihood, the unionized plumber, electrician etc is charging 125 to 150 an hour while some of the familycare guys are collecting such feeble amounts after the payment companies squeeze them so badly. For some specific personal reasons, a large % of the social gatherings / parties I attend with my spouse happen to be predominantly w / physician friends and families (second most, after those w / my own company folks / friends). The most common topics of discussion are (a) money and where / what they are investing (b) bitching about work: hours, patients, insurance, how physicians are slowly losing ground to the riff raff (c) some random clinical cases / diagnosis (naturally, I tune out of this discussion and drift away to another small group that is now starting to talk more general stuff by this time) (d) the quarter-marathon they have run, the golf club they have joined or some other expensive toy they bought of late (half of them are now pushing 50). I have seen more blatant bragging about wealth and the trappings of wealth at these gatherings than when I used to work in NYC / Boston areas a while ago where some guys were truly super wealthy but they really kept that side of themselves completely private.

Very few of these physician friends have any holier than thou, I am doing noble work crappy attitude to them. As always, his fullness is full of it. I have seen / heard humongous amounts of bitching about NPs and PAs and how administrators are slowly undercutting them using these ("why don't they go to medical school" type bitching is heard commonly). Most of them are tired and none seem to be the type that sit down with a mobile in hand typing up random dissertations with numbers, stats, trials, pharma molecules blah blah 24/7. I hear tons of clinical / diagnosis discussions at these gatherings, hardly any about theoretical research topics. None would agree to type up a hundred Covid messages and / or Sweden v US v some other nation pros / cons, if offered money.

So, that is my personal experience. And no, none of them think they are such hot shit that others in society are insecure around them. They know they are not. So, when some dude who is not X says he is X and claims everyone is jealous because he is X, well it all seems a bit too much.

[Pessimist]

Interesting to read in a FKK Germany forum so much about USA Politics (and football, people writing about the GOAT, and for the record I am neither a Pats nor Bucs fan).

I want a new party in the US. Can we have a socially liberal party with conservative economics? Then we can start out own FKK's and don't have to spend money outside the US anymore. Switzerland is probably the closest to it. FKK's, business friendly and low taxes.

If you look at the 4 quadrants: fiscal hawk social liberal, fiscal dove social liberal, fiscal dove social conservative, fiscal hawk social conservative, the one with the least popularity is the first I. E. Fiscal hawk social liberal.

Bloomberg got trashed despite spending hundreds of millions of own money. Almost all the politicians with similar bent are phasing out. Kasich, Romney, Meg Whitman, Clintons, etc.

FT had a really good oped a few months ago. Their take was that if Trump had not been a traditional fiscal conservative guy when it came to policies / actions but had gone full bore on economic populism (renamed Obamacare as Trumpcare and expanded it; do a large infra project with roadworks etc, spend money on other nation building stuff), he would have been elected easy. He came within a whisker of winning anyway despite Covid mismanagement and being the traditional GOP guy on fiscal issues. Or if Bernie had not been so socially liberal on immigration and race, he could have won (he still won a bunch of people who voted for him in primaries and for Trump in general).

Being fiscally conservative socially liberal works for the upper middle, educated classes in NYC / SF and Boston. The lower middle class White voters on the coasts and people in the flyover country did not benefit from the Reagan economics of trickle down. They are there for picking by the fiscal dove, socially conservative pol at some point.

[Mongerer88]

Hmmm. AOC is for full legalization and decriminalization of commercial sex. If I was in her district, I would vote for her.

If she was a WG, I might bang her in all three holes. She looks nerdy wearing glasses. I am curious what others think about her.

AOC does get it right on sex work. I disagree with her on everything else, but she does totally get it on sex work, even drilling down into the evils of Fosta / Sesta.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/15/aoc-ki...bitious-goals/

Kamala Harris is the one to be concerned about, given her past record.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ident-1043941/

https://reason.com/2019/04/23/harris...eason-roundup/

The mainstream media is simply incapable of having a reasonable discussion regarding sex work.

Kamala supports the Nordic Model, not decriminalization, although you wouldn't know it from her years as California Attorney General, where she went after women doing street prostitution and low-cost classified advertising, and was an immediate architect of Fosta / Sesta upon entering the USA Senate.

Kamala has no substance and merely blows with the wind. Consequently, it is possible that the left wing women supporting full decriminalization will have some sway with her, particularly if the prevailing attitudes of the country go that direction. When she was California Attorney General, the trafficking myth folks (beware of that Super Bowl) were out in force. So it is simply a matter of who has her ear on the subject, since her apparent lack of brainpower makes it difficult for her to make a decision based on competing data.

Her boss, Mr. Biden, simply does not comment or answer questions on the subject. It would seem that in 40 or so years as a lawmaker, it has not come up, nor has he ever given any thought about it.

It is unclear if the Nordic Model would, or would not, be an improvement in the United States. It was simply irrelevant in Canada, although it simply replaced an already bizarre system and largely where outcall was legal as long as none of the elements were observable, but incall was illegal under all circumstances. Participants of an outcall transaction were entitled to Privacy under a court decision somewhat similar to the USA 's Roe v. Wade, but the decision did not extend to incall. When a later court declared that decision too stupid to persist, they forced legislators to act and Canada got the Nordic Model, and a rational decision by the police departments in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver to sweep it under the rug with a Prioritization Policy.

I don't trust USA Legislators to do any better, so I like the Biden approach of Don't Want to Talk About It, Never Even Thought About It, rather than anything Kamala would propose.

[Martin39]

Interesting to read in a FKK Germany forum so much about USA Politics (and football, people writing about the GOAT, and for the record I am neither a Pats nor Bucs fan).

I want a new party in the US. Can we have a socially liberal party with conservative economics? Then we can start out own FKK's and don't have to spend money outside the US anymore. Switzerland is probably the closest to it. FKK's, business friendly and low taxes.

[Samplerr]

BTW, so did any of the other European guys even have a clue as to what Shoe was speaking about when he referenced Fredo Cuomo?

It was likely in reference to The Godfather Part II. Presumably Andrew and Chris instead of Michael and Fredo.

[ShooBree]

I'm just following your logic troll. You're the one who said that local newspapers know better, I just showed you some counter examples.

https://www.krisinformation.se/en/ne...amtland-county

Is this source more adequate for you? Seems like they're strongly discouraging people from gathering together and pushing for everyone to work at home. Sounds like the herd immunity strategy that you were bragging about is not working so well. "stricter recommendations", isn't it some kind of light lockdown?

And the two following ones, are they deep fakes from some Joe Biden's cock sucking leftwing commie liberal media?

https://www.euronews.com/2020/11/11/...b-virus-spread

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUKKBN27J1SZ

It's absolutely not a "light lockdown", unless the definition of a lockdown changed drastically the last couple of days.

Have you heard the expression making a mountain out of a molehill? People have been working from home since mid March and the recommendations that you're talking about was put in place for most parts of the country in March. But cool that you just noticed it.

It's still possible to move freely, all malls, restaurants, shops, massage parlors and gyms are still opened. There are no lockdowns, there's no difference between now and March / April. The restaurants are still packed of people, probably even more so than in March. So your false claim that Sweden changed its strategy is incorrect. Or well, the nursing homes allows visitors now. More importantly, no lockdown! Still open for business!

[ExpatLover]

Yes of course we are too stupid to know the Cuomo brothers. We can also watch CNN (strong democrats supporters) or Fox (Trump supporters) available for free. I really appreciate the American people, worked with them several years and it was a great pleasure, the things are straight forward, clear like working with German people. You should not trying to segregate US and Europe never forget that 90% if not more of the Americans are coming from Europe, just check where your grand parents are from.

[Ararat]

BTW, so did any of the other European guys even have a clue as to what Shoe was speaking about when he referenced Fredo Cuomo? Do you guys even know who Chris Cuomo is? I don't think he regularly appears on CNN International, just a nightly entertainment-news host on CNN domestic.

I probably spend more time in the US every year than even the most hardcore US mongers would spend in Germany.

I know there's a Cuomo that's a famous politican from New York. I'd have to check Google to confirm if he's the governor but I think so. Other Cuome I wouldn't know about. I would say it's highly unusal if Europeans know anyone who isn't on the major talkshows that are on TV over here. Or of course is known from Hollywood.

It's similar to that I'd be suspicious of unknowns on the internet claiming to be Europeans but could discuss NFL or baseball like a native. Even guys who are interested in sports would be hard pressed to come up with the names of more than 10 teams. Any known player would because they're famous for something else. Like Tom Brady but I'm not sure even him would be a household name. For the sake of this answer I tried to come up with quarterback names but I could only think of a handful. Other players, not so much. This is no slight, it's just that it's not anything we bother with. I've been to a couple of games with American hosts but it's alien to me (and almost any European).

That said, I do think Shobre is from Sweden because that ghetto name isn't in the dictionaries. Maybe he's from an Arab area in the US but I think he's from one of the Stockholm ghettos such as Rinkeby or Alby. Everytime I visit Berlin there are groups of young MENA men onboard who are headed for Artemis. I have seen use him a ghetto insult in Swedish too.

[Mursenary]

It's interesting that you read and analyze my posts so carefully, yet you missed the part where I wrote that I've lived in the US for several years. Maybe, just maybe, that could partly explain my interest and knowledge of US politics. I find it much more fascinating that people that don't speak Swedish and never even been to Sweden suddenly consider themselves to be experts on Sweden because they read some opinion piece from some liberal propagandist that of course never set a foot in Sweden.

Your little buddy claimed that Sweden had a "light lockdown", which of course are factually incorrect. I know that because I've my boots on the ground. Any normal, reasonable person would backdown and realize that his sources are wrong, instead your little buddy decided to compare Swedish media to Pravda and Nazi media.

I've got two questions for you:

1. How comes that a self proclaimed physician has all this time to spend on ISG during a pandemic?

2. Have you ever mongered? Do you have any proof that you've even been to Germany?

1. Nightshift doldrums and the wonderful ICU nurses, respiratory therapists, and patient care techs that deserve so much more credit for the work they do while I write orders from my computer. The periodic crashing patient and 3 am patient admission requiring intubation do keeps things interesting.

I will add that it's quite interesting that people are quick to cast doubt on another's occupation due to perceived prestige. Definitely some insecurities going on here. I've even made it a point as to not even utter direct phrases like, "I am a physician" or silly little boasts like, "My profession is noble", yada yada yada, as to not tap into these insecurities. A decent human wouldn't really care. One of the cooler dudes I've met in an FKK was an ice machine repairman visiting from Boston. Dude was so much more interesting than the fly-through businessmen who place their self worth on their salary. It's a gross way to look at life and other humans to be honest.

2. Yes.

Enclosed are some nice PG-non-WG pictures of the outdoor areas of some clubs as to maybe stir up some fond memories. Sharks and Oase gardens are pretty in the winter snow. Views from an August day from Welcum's garden is breathtaking.

Bonus: I've only spoken a handful of times about the Swedish covid approach and don't entirely reject their methods. I do have skepticism about the way you portray current life in Sweden as even the Swedish publications suggest that the populace has accepted many of the mitigation efforts. Easily verifiable data and policies such as 90% decrease in domestic travel, reduction in public transport use, limits on crowd size, secondary school and universities practicing study-from-home are all observations that suggests that most Swedes take this covid threat a bit more serious than the likes of Shoe and HammerTime. All of this is to actually give credit to Swedes and their ability to be responsible without extreme lock down measures mandated by the government. But it does seem that the picture that you paint of current Swedish society during covid is incongruent with the data.

BTW, so did any of the other European guys even have a clue as to what Shoe was speaking about when he referenced Fredo Cuomo? Do you guys even know who Chris Cuomo is? I don't think he regularly appears on CNN International, just a nightly entertainment-news host on CNN domestic.

I hear Stockholm, Wisconsin is nice. Gothengurg, Nebraska has produced a few American football players. Maybe Torsby, Alabama is more up Shoe's political preference.

[Smoke Light]

And then you have full crazies like AOC.

Hmmm. AOC is for full legalization and decriminalization of commercial sex. If I was in her district, I would vote for her.

If she was a WG, I might bang her in all three holes. She looks nerdy wearing glasses. I am curious what others think about her.