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  1. #2264
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    May be but also may be not, what is effectiveness of the yearly flu vaccine around 50%, why because to produce it in April / May / June they take the virus from New Zealand or Australia (winter season there) and develop the vaccine for Europe but some years the virus has mutated and the vaccine is not efficient, why this can not happen with the covid when we already have variant 4?
    Because coronavirus mutates at half to 1/14th the rate of influenza virus. Sure it is possible, but as with all nearly all comparisons to the flu, there is a full order of magnitude that differentiates the two classes of virus.

    Variants of viruses are subtypes and not completely different serotypes. The likelihood of a mutation making a vaccine inert is much lower than with the flu.

  2. #2263
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Variants / mutations do not mean vaccine is rendered ineffective. I posted this earlier in response to you.
    May be but also may be not, what is effectiveness of the yearly flu vaccine around 50%, why because to produce it in April / May / June they take the virus from New Zealand or Australia (winter season there) and develop the vaccine for Europe but some years the virus has mutated and the vaccine is not efficient, why this can not happen with the covid when we already have variant 4?

  3. #2262
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    But I I honestly don't give a flying duck about what's your point. I made my point and it's rock solid, it sure revealed how dishonest you are. You got verbally knocked to the ground and then decided to make another, completely irrelevant point. The funniest part was that you acted as if you'd done some great revelation. The Dunning-Kruger effect in full effect.
    Range on bro, rage.
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  4. #2261
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    If you take a French city like Marseille, today we have the variant 4 of Covid knowing that in March we had the 1 this explain why some people can catch 2 times the covid even they build a immunity against variant 1 they are not immune against variant 4, it is exactly the same for the yearly flue. How many people we all know who even they got the flue vaccine they were still sick. This will be the biggest challenge for the vaccine but obviously the journalists, politicians will not speak about it, it is the time to give good news to the people. It is like the question who will pay for the hundred of billions of cash that the different states injected in the past months in the economy, the answer is very simple when you do know it will be us you).
    Variants / mutations do not mean vaccine is rendered ineffective. I posted this earlier in response to you.

  5. #2260
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]

    With regards to the comment from Jmioffe, my guess would be that they are trying to keep down the # of guests at a time to some fairly small number to pass local restrictions. As such, I do not expect these type of restrictions to persist, nor the pricing models when we are past Covid. I have the same view about the excess pricing implemented in Artemis in September. Perhaps I will be wrong but that is the guess / view I have.
    You are not wrong. Nothing has been fundamentally changed. After corona, FKK clubs will go back to normal like before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    That said, 3 hours is a short amount of time and hardly leaves enough time for more than one session. So, if you stay past 3 hours they charge another 40 when checking out?
    If there is any monger waiting outside or having already made appointment, the club will kick you out after 3 hours. Otherwise, you can pay another 40 euro for 3 more hours. The reason is, as you correctly stated,

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    they are trying to keep down the # of guests at a time to some fairly small number to pass local restrictions.

  6. #2259

    Food for thought

    Two excellent eye-opening interviews with Mike Yeadon, the former Chief Scientific Advisor of Pfizer, the company that is now claiming to be making good progress on a vaccine against the SARS-CoV2 virus;.

    https://open.lbry.com/Mike-Yeadon-Unlocked:0

    https://odysee.com/@UrbeOscura:8/Dr-Mike-Yeadon-'Government-are-using-a-Covid-19-test-with-undeclared-false-positive-rates'-1-:6?are=CVfX67 aax2 t8 ydQ5 qAVV8 wgAd7 d5 fsrp.

  7. #2258
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    You keep nagging about side gigs, which again only goes to show that the point went over your head. A smart person would have understood. A smart person without any need to work as a bartender would have gotten it. Can you ever make a relevant post?

    Anyways, so what was AOC: s main occupation when she worked as a bartender? Now you've your chance! Say something relevant for once!

    I know one teacher with a side gig, you will be surprised to hear this, but it wasn't bartending!
    Are you that dense or are you just playing dumb?

    Please enlighten me on how being not smart and bartending side gigs have anything to do with each other.

    Entry level jobs often don't pay much. After college, some people actually work internships which may pay very little or may not pay at all. Some even volunteer to help the community while gaining experience.

    While I may not agree with her political stance, I believe AOC worked as an educator at a nonprofit and on political campaigns like Bernie's while working service jobs to pay the bills for herself and her recently widowed mother.

    But what would a spoon fed brat know about hard work and hardship.

    I have a feeling that this article regarding criticism of AOC's bartending gig sums up your pompous worldview:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/psych...t-2019-7%3Famp

    Funny though, for a couple of dumb former bartenders, I'm pretty sure both of us have accomplished more with less than this underachieving asshole.

  8. #2257
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    No idea what is the scientific basis behind this statement. Mutation ability is near infinite. Become just another virus? Not sure what that means either.
    If you take a French city like Marseille, today we have the variant 4 of Covid knowing that in March we had the 1 this explain why some people can catch 2 times the covid even they build a immunity against variant 1 they are not immune against variant 4, it is exactly the same for the yearly flue. How many people we all know who even they got the flue vaccine they were still sick. This will be the biggest challenge for the vaccine but obviously the journalists, politicians will not speak about it, it is the time to give good news to the people. It is like the question who will pay for the hundred of billions of cash that the different states injected in the past months in the economy, the answer is very simple when you do know it will be us you).

  9. #2256
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    This guy is so American sounding it's funny. By whatever technicality you consider yourself a Swede, you do not seem to to be a representation of a Swedish person in culture.

    No, I didn't attach racism to his comments. Stereotyping, sure, even using an ethnic pejorative, maybe. Socially aware people can parse the difference between making stereotypes and actual racist calls to action, like when someone calls for mass deportation of an ethnic group. That dude was weirdly unstable also.

    It seems that you're also getting all mixed up in your American roots too. Mountain View, CA or Mountain View, CO? Silicon Valley? Hard to keep up.

    This guy now writes about hardworking immigrants but also attributes low intelligence to people who have worked as bartenders. He can't even grasp the idea of a side-hustle.

    I do disagree with Arafat that Shoo comes from the ghetto. I grew up in the hood, and my people don't come off as spoon-fed brats like this one does.

    Love seeing these guys come unraveled.
    You don't even try to hide that you're a liar and a racist.

    I see no point in entertaining a demagogue like you.

  10. #2255
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    No bro, that was your point. The bigger conversation was regarding Sweden's approach to controlling the virus while you focused on insignificant battles.

    Other more credible Swedes seems to have suggested differently.

    Who do I believe, credited publications plus people who don't sound unhinged? Or simple, spoiled brat trolls? Easy choice.
    But I I honestly don't give a flying duck about what's your point. I made my point and it's rock solid, it sure revealed how dishonest you are. You got verbally knocked to the ground and then decided to make another, completely irrelevant point. The funniest part was that you acted as if you'd done some great revelation. The Dunning-Kruger effect in full effect.

  11. #2254
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    No idea what is the scientific basis behind this statement. Mutation ability is near infinite. Become just another virus? Not sure what that means either.
    Well I read it, but yes, it could have been fake news!

  12. #2253
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Go meet more people.

    Ever met an American Teacher?

    https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-c...ke-second-jobs
    You keep nagging about side gigs, which again only goes to show that the point went over your head. A smart person would have understood. A smart person without any need to work as a bartender would have gotten it. Can you ever make a relevant post?

    Anyways, so what was AOC: s main occupation when she worked as a bartender? Now you've your chance! Say something relevant for once!

    I know one teacher with a side gig, you will be surprised to hear this, but it wasn't bartending!

  13. #2252
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    A side hustle after graduating the university? Most people I know did that during their studies, not after.
    Go meet more people.

    Ever met an American Teacher?

    https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-c...ke-second-jobs

  14. #2251
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    You're so full of yourself that you completely missed the point. The point was that Sweden didn't change their strategy nor did they implement any lockdown. You say people changed their habits even in Sweden, for real? I had no idea.
    No bro, that was your point. The bigger conversation was regarding Sweden's approach to controlling the virus while you focused on insignificant battles.

    Other more credible Swedes seems to have suggested differently.

    Who do I believe, credited publications plus people who don't sound unhinged? Or simple, spoiled brat trolls? Easy choice.

  15. #2250
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    OH BTW, "I like GT to change their door policy" is lame.
    When you patronize a known discriminating club, you are a discriminator yourself.
    You are free to hold that thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    And as I said, the equating of all Trump voters to Nazis was disgusting. ADL and FOxman would think that is equal to the worst denial of holocaust.
    Prove where I equated all Trump voters to Nazis. I think I've asked before and nothing was produced.

    Best case you'll find is complicit Germans and complicit Trump supporters.

    Go ahead, prove it. You can't.

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