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  1. #2276

    Perhaps

    Good points. Corruption is rampant. Dictators love to take advantage etc. History does not always repeat though. And as much as we like to think, facts don't sway most people. There are competing forces that are both very powerful to open and to close our lives. A good argument can be made that these vaccines will be our "saving face" moment. That is, whether they are highly efficacious or not the media will talk up their goodness, sweep the bad under the rug and allow the pharmaceutical companies vast new levels of power setting up databases for health records globally of all vaccinated (mandated). Getting that database and allowing things to return could be a win win for the corrupt creeps that rule the planet.

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    The FKK days are over, better get used to the "New Normal" and dust off that old "Pick Up Artist" book again! LOL!

    Read what Dr Fauci and Dr Tedros have to say;.

    https://www.axios.com/fauci-us-not-r...9927bbb52.html

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/07/1068941

    Of course they tell you "don't worry, it's only one more year" that's because they are using the salami tactic. If they tell people the cold hard truth straight away then they will revolt.

    Remember all laws that were passed to enable a dictatorship after some "crisis" were of a "temporary" nature, like the famous Enabling Act of Hitler in 1933 or all the laws Stalin passed in order to establish his personal dictatorship? By the time the big majority of dumb sheeple finally figure out what's happening, it will be too late to revolt. Last week, the German Parliament passed a draconian new "Infection Protection Law," that basically transforms Germany into a police state whenever a handful of unelected bureaucrats decide that a flu is becoming a pandemic-scamdemic-plandemic-casedemic. (delete as appropriate).

    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-ca...act/a-55649748

    Of course, the German State Media (DW is paid for by tax money) doesn't see any problem with the new law, which is analogous to a student grading his / her own exam or asking the fox to guard the henhouse. History has shown that Germans can not be trusted with authoritarian governments and during the last +- 100 years Germans have never been very clever and smart about recognising dictatorships; not under the Kaiser, not under Hitler and not in the DDR. Therefore the elevated opinion Germans hold of themselves should be largely disregarded.

    See guys? Don't worry, these restrictions are just "temporary" while the authorities continue to move the goalposts, move deadlines and restrict your freedoms. FKKs opening soon! / sarc.

    More info about the Enabling Act:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

    "Due to the great care that Hitler took to give his dictatorship an appearance of legality, the Enabling Act was renewed twice, in 1937 and 1941. However, its renewal was practically assured since all other parties were banned. Voters were presented with a single list of Nazis and Nazi-approved "guest" candidates under far-from-secret conditions. In 1942, the Reichstag passed a law giving Hitler power of life and death over every citizen, effectively extending the provisions of the Enabling Act for the duration of the war".

  2. #2275

    Photos of Governor of California, completely disregarding COVID rules

    As George Orwell wrote in Animal Farm: "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk-O2Td-CzA

    No face masks, no social distancing, large group of people dining indoors. This is how serious the political elite treat this 'deadly' PlanDemic!

    COVID 1984 is so deadly that you need a bogus PCR test to see if you have the virus in the first place.

  3. #2274
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuber19  [View Original Post]
    With good news about Vaccine and high effective rate, When do you expect FKK reopen again?

    January?

    February?

    March?

    April?
    The FKK days are over, better get used to the "New Normal" and dust off that old "Pick Up Artist" book again! LOL!

    Read what Dr Fauci and Dr Tedros have to say;.

    https://www.axios.com/fauci-us-not-r...9927bbb52.html

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/07/1068941

    Of course they tell you "don't worry, it's only one more year" that's because they are using the salami tactic. If they tell people the cold hard truth straight away then they will revolt.

    Remember all laws that were passed to enable a dictatorship after some "crisis" were of a "temporary" nature, like the famous Enabling Act of Hitler in 1933 or all the laws Stalin passed in order to establish his personal dictatorship? By the time the big majority of dumb sheeple finally figure out what's happening, it will be too late to revolt. Last week, the German Parliament passed a draconian new "Infection Protection Law," that basically transforms Germany into a police state whenever a handful of unelected bureaucrats decide that a flu is becoming a pandemic-scamdemic-plandemic-casedemic. (delete as appropriate).

    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-ca...act/a-55649748

    Of course, the German State Media (DW is paid for by tax money) doesn't see any problem with the new law, which is analogous to a student grading his / her own exam or asking the fox to guard the henhouse. History has shown that Germans can not be trusted with authoritarian governments and during the last +- 100 years Germans have never been very clever and smart about recognising dictatorships; not under the Kaiser, not under Hitler and not in the DDR. Therefore the elevated opinion Germans hold of themselves should be largely disregarded.

    See guys? Don't worry, these restrictions are just "temporary" while the authorities continue to move the goalposts, move deadlines and restrict your freedoms. FKKs opening soon! / sarc.

    More info about the Enabling Act:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

    "Due to the great care that Hitler took to give his dictatorship an appearance of legality, the Enabling Act was renewed twice, in 1937 and 1941. However, its renewal was practically assured since all other parties were banned. Voters were presented with a single list of Nazis and Nazi-approved "guest" candidates under far-from-secret conditions. In 1942, the Reichstag passed a law giving Hitler power of life and death over every citizen, effectively extending the provisions of the Enabling Act for the duration of the war".

  4. #2273
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuber19  [View Original Post]
    With good news about Vaccine and high effective rate, When do you expect FKK reopen again?

    January?

    February?

    March?

    April?
    If the vaccine is really efficient is still a big doubt, if yes we can say the normal life could be there in 1 year, most probably the FKK could reopen before like this year but if a third wave will occur they will close again.

  5. #2272
    Many world leaders and important policy makers (eg. Joe Biden, Antony Fauci, Klaus Schwab from the WEF, Tedros from the WHO) disagree and have already publicly stated that a return to the 'old' normal (no face masks, no restrictions, no social distancing) will not happen.

    This is the New Normal folks, and a virus that continually mutates (and thus rendering a vaccine pretty much ineffective) will guarantee a 'permanent crisis. '.

    All dictatorships require a 'permanent crisis' just like communism that continually needs to hunt for "saboteurs" and "counter-revolutionaries. " Of course the real money for the vaxxers is in the continuous treatment and not a one-shot-fix, so they will happily play along with the governments to keep the crisis going.

    The FKK days are over folks, better get used to it and dust off that old "Pick Up Artist" book again! LOL!

    In such a terrible crisis the rule of the politicians is also to give hope to the people so many are desperate, they have to quarantine sometimes in overcrowded small apartments, with revenue issues. For me it has nothing to do with dictators manipulations they just try to control the pademy and to limit the number of people entering the hospital to limit the terrible death rate. Why always trying to find excuses by the others (politicians) and not to see what is wrong with us? For example more and more people concentrate in big cities (sometimes overcrowded), why so many people prefer to migrate to other countries or continents when it would be better to stay in their own place and develop the things there. For sure this 2 big drivers concentration in big cities, migration will increase the number of crisis like Covid.

  6. #2271
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    Museums, swimming pools, gyms, art galleries closing? No more visits in some elders houses? Sounds like some kind of light lockdown to me!

    Thank you mac Adonis you made my day.
    You're wrong matter how you try to twist and turn it.

    You claimed that they changed their strategy, but the restrictions are close to exactly the same as in March / April. I guess the definition of a lockdown changed from then to now. Sure, call it a "light lockdown", but in that case we had a light lockdown in March as well.

    Let's review McAdon's link: https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artike...rtikel=7604590.

    "Sweden's first and third-largest cities are closing public swimming pools, gyms and museums to the general public as well as limiting the number of visitors to local libraries to slow the spread of Covid-19. ".

    "Public gyms", not all gyms. Public gyms. They probably constitute 1-10% of the total number of gyms.

    https://www.dn.se/ekonomi/sa-reagera...restriktioner/

    "Shops, gyms and malls are not affected by the Governments new restrictions."

    This is why humility is so important, you read but you haven't really understood what you read.

    So I say it again people are allowed to move freely, 90-99% of the gyms, malls, restaurants, massage parlors and schools are open.

  7. #2270

    Lolol

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    This is the New Normal folks, and a virus that continually mutates (and thus rendering a vaccine pretty much ineffective) will guarantee a 'permanent crisis.'
    You've already been corrected on this point several times, yet choose to continue lying to this monger community. What's your motive? It doesn't follow that because viruses mutate that vaccines or immunities will quickly become ineffective. The Measles virus like SARS-2 is a single strand RNA virus which mutates, and the vaccine has been effective since the 1960's. You have a non-sequitor going, just as you have with your false comparisons to the flu.

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    All dictatorships require a 'permanent crisis' just like communism that continually needs to hunt for "saboteurs" and "counter-revolutionaries. "
    Gotcha, so from that you launch into red baiting and global conspiracy theories. Have you considered Thorazine?

  8. #2269

    Keep Trying Hammer

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Two excellent eye-opening interviews with Mike Yeadon, the former Chief Scientific Advisor of Pfizer, the company that is now claiming to be making good progress on a vaccine against the SARS-CoV2 virus;.

    https://open.lbry.com/Mike-Yeadon-Unlocked:0

    https://odysee.com/@UrbeOscura:8/Dr-Mike-Yeadon-'Government-are-using-a-Covid-19-test-with-undeclared-false-positive-rates'-1-:6?are=CVfX67 aax2 t8 ydQ5 qAVV8 wgAd7 d5 fsrp.
    There's always going to be fringe hacks like Yeardon that seek attention by telling fringe malcontents what they want to hear. But if you are so intent on diving in without delay, by all means do so as there are plenty of hookers the world over offering service at this time. There's no reason to try and convince a relatively small community of mongers that 99% of the world's contagious disease specialists have gotten it all wrong.

    "Yeadon's central assertion is that, by his calculations, a large proportion of the population have already had the virus (32% have prior immunity to it through exposure to other coronaviruses (30% or are too young to spread the virus (10% This, he says, leaves relatively few (28%) susceptible.

    While Yeadon admits in his report that the precise numbers are not "mathematically perfect", they could, if true, mean we already have herd immunity (typically estimated to require 60%-70% of the population to be immune). We could all get back to life as normal. Everything could reopen; social distancing, testing, and vaccines would be unnecessary; and we could return to our terrible former hygiene habits.

    Sadly, we cannot. Yeadon's claims are riddled with leaps of logic and illustrated with highly inflated, speculative statistics that most infectious disease experts dispute, and which are being disproved by the explosion of second waves across Europe. To understand why he's so wrong, we need to address his claims about how many people have already had Covid, the alleged existence of prior immunity, and whether false positives explain the second waves."

    Entire article is linked below. What's the latest with the mink? Wink.

    https://unherd.com/2020/11/the-troub...vid-denialism/

  9. #2268
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Many world leaders and important policy makers (eg. Joe Biden, Antony Fauci, Klaus Schwab from the WEF, Tedros from the WHO) disagree and have already publicly stated that a return to the 'old' normal (no face masks, no restrictions, no social distancing) will not happen.

    This is the New Normal folks, and a virus that continually mutates (and thus rendering a vaccine pretty much ineffective) will guarantee a 'permanent crisis.'

    All dictatorships require a 'permanent crisis' just like communism that continually needs to hunt for "saboteurs" and "counter-revolutionaries. " Of course the real money for the vaxxers is in the continuous treatment and not a one-shot-fix, so they will happily play along with the governments to keep the crisis going.

    The FKK days are over folks, better get used to it and dust off that old "Pick Up Artist" book again! LOL!

    https://www.axios.com/fauci-us-not-r...9927bbb52.html.
    Well, let's wait and see what happens this time in 2021. If FKKs are not back to normal (as they were in same time in 2019), we can all say that you were 100% correct in your prediction.

  10. #2267
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Two excellent eye-opening interviews with Mike Yeadon, the former Chief Scientific Advisor of Pfizer, the company that is now claiming to be making good progress on a vaccine against the SARS-CoV2 virus;.

    https://open.lbry.com/Mike-Yeadon-Unlocked:0

    https://odysee.com/@UrbeOscura:8/Dr-Mike-Yeadon-'Government-are-using-a-Covid-19-test-with-undeclared-false-positive-rates'-1-:6?are=CVfX67 aax2 t8 ydQ5 qAVV8 wgAd7 d5 fsrp.
    This is actually a fair argument and he makes fair points. The same principles he's talking about are seen in the possible partial immunity that people who received the bcg vaccine have to coronavirus.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7413058/

    The problem is that there are very few or perhaps zero population level studies that can validate his theoretical claims. So from a public policy point of view, without solid proof to direct otherwise, you must account for worst case scenarios. That is the problem with suggestions from molecular scientists, they often neglect practical applications of their theories and fail to account for real world scenarios. I'm a big science-based policy proponent, but he's leaving out a key aspect of the scientific method. How many times did he use the word "if" and "think" in this video? That's the hypothesis step. But he leaves out key intermediate steps of experimentation and analysis and skips straight to the conclusion step.

  11. #2266
    Museums, swimming pools, gyms, art galleries closing? No more visits in some elders houses? Sounds like some kind of light lockdown to me!

    Thank you mac Adonis you made my day.

  12. #2265
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    You are not wrong. Nothing has been fundamentally changed. After corona, FKK clubs will go back to normal like before.
    Many world leaders and important policy makers (eg. Joe Biden, Antony Fauci, Klaus Schwab from the WEF, Tedros from the WHO) disagree and have already publicly stated that a return to the 'old' normal (no face masks, no restrictions, no social distancing) will not happen.

    This is the New Normal folks, and a virus that continually mutates (and thus rendering a vaccine pretty much ineffective) will guarantee a 'permanent crisis.'

    All dictatorships require a 'permanent crisis' just like communism that continually needs to hunt for "saboteurs" and "counter-revolutionaries. " Of course the real money for the vaxxers is in the continuous treatment and not a one-shot-fix, so they will happily play along with the governments to keep the crisis going.

    The FKK days are over folks, better get used to it and dust off that old "Pick Up Artist" book again! LOL!

    https://www.axios.com/fauci-us-not-r...9927bbb52.html

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/07/1068941

    Of course they tell you "don't worry, it's only one more year" that's because they are using the salami tactic. Remember, all laws that were passed to enable a dictatorship after some "crisis" were of a "temporary" nature, like the famous Enabling Act of Hitler in 1933. By the time the big majority of dumb sheeple realize what's happening, it will be too late to revolt.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

    "Due to the great care that Hitler took to give his dictatorship an appearance of legality, the Enabling Act was renewed twice, in 1937 and 1941. However, its renewal was practically assured since all other parties were banned. Voters were presented with a single list of Nazis and Nazi-approved "guest" candidates under far-from-secret conditions. In 1942, the Reichstag passed a law giving Hitler power of life and death over every citizen, effectively extending the provisions of the Enabling Act for the duration of the war".

    See guys? Don't worry, these restrictions are just "temporary!" / sarc.

  13. #2264
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    May be but also may be not, what is effectiveness of the yearly flu vaccine around 50%, why because to produce it in April / May / June they take the virus from New Zealand or Australia (winter season there) and develop the vaccine for Europe but some years the virus has mutated and the vaccine is not efficient, why this can not happen with the covid when we already have variant 4?
    Because coronavirus mutates at half to 1/14th the rate of influenza virus. Sure it is possible, but as with all nearly all comparisons to the flu, there is a full order of magnitude that differentiates the two classes of virus.

    Variants of viruses are subtypes and not completely different serotypes. The likelihood of a mutation making a vaccine inert is much lower than with the flu.

  14. #2263
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Variants / mutations do not mean vaccine is rendered ineffective. I posted this earlier in response to you.
    May be but also may be not, what is effectiveness of the yearly flu vaccine around 50%, why because to produce it in April / May / June they take the virus from New Zealand or Australia (winter season there) and develop the vaccine for Europe but some years the virus has mutated and the vaccine is not efficient, why this can not happen with the covid when we already have variant 4?

  15. #2262
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    But I I honestly don't give a flying duck about what's your point. I made my point and it's rock solid, it sure revealed how dishonest you are. You got verbally knocked to the ground and then decided to make another, completely irrelevant point. The funniest part was that you acted as if you'd done some great revelation. The Dunning-Kruger effect in full effect.
    Range on bro, rage.
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