Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Mursenary]

Neither is that concerning to me. I am just trying to counter the catastrophic argument that this lockdown will never end by saying it seems likely the western world will be put in a new paradigm of registry and tracking with annual vaccines. And with that in place we'll be allowed to go about mongering and traveling etc like we used to. That scenario seems most likely to me.

Definitely a very real possibility regarding the future of travel. If it turns out that vaccination efficacy declines over the years, this scenario would likely be the new normal. If another microbial pandemic pops up in the next decade, I believe that it would be guaranteed that mandatory immunization records be as commonplace as passports and identification cards.

Increase profits by the pharmaceutical companies will definitely be a hot topic issue. I guess that loosely translates to some sort of power grab? But besides benefiting from profits from a steady flow of mandatory vaccines across the globe, I don't really see where they will gain "vast new levels of power."

[Sirioja]

2400 deaths yesterday, more than 260.000 deaths, Trump is a real winner, he is number 1 for covid in the world, when we don't know truth about figures in China, but now party with no mask in Wuhan. Improving decreasing covid figures in France, but 149 women were killed by husband, ex husband, or BF in 2019 , after 120 in 2018 , and so many women are beaten at home. Just a shame for men, at least for French men, with some women saying: I was only a mother, but not a woman.

[ShooBree]

Says the guy who has been constantly insulting all the guys who dare to contradict him, describing the people of Southern Europe as a burden and parasites http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2447226 (yet he goes to Madrid to get his cock sucked) , praising Trump and Bolsonaro and using the same words as the orange golfer (shithole country for instance). He even qualified "LE Monde" as a fake news media while he's playing with his willy watching Fox News. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Le-Monde.

Source: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari...glish/lockdown.

I bet there is only one public museum in Stockholm with a maximum capacity of 3 people according to you no? Because closing the museums sounds like trying to control the movement of people to me!

You should really try harder!

You should take a look at yourself and your childish insults.

OK, you're saying that it's a lockdown because the museums are closed. It doesn't matter that the restaurants, gyms, massage joints, shops and malls are open. Good for you.

Spain is a great country if you're a fan of irresponsible politicians and their unbalanced budgets (200 billion euros in deficit over the past five years), corruption, political prisoners, Erdogan and Turkey.

We are paying big money to the EU while Spain and the other shithole countries in the south receive money to be members. Yet they come running to the EU begging for more money, how are they not a burden?!

Don't get me started on France, their colonial past and current maniac for president. Anyways, what's up with the ridiculous move from Brussels to Strasbourg every year?! Maybe if France paid as much as Sweden per capita you would've had a different view of things. More over the EU is a scam with their agricultural support which undoubtedly benefits France greatly. Close to 25% of the agricultural budget goes to French farmers. It's disgraceful how France sneak away from taking their share of the responsibility. Sweden contributes with twice as much as France per capita.

[Mursenary]

For all the "vaccine" fanboys expecting a summer 2021 FKK fun in Germany, here's what the mainstream media is not telling you;.

Question. Why is it that the antivaxxers never cite the overwhelming number of vaccination success stories.

Smallpox, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, yellow fever, HPV, etc.

Why is that?

[Rocky V]

For all the "vaccine" fanboys expecting a summer 2021 FKK fun in Germany, here's what the mainstream media is not telling you;.

https://www.rt.com/news/507829-astra...ine-questions/

"What AstraZeneca did, though, was to secure full indemnity from all damages in most countries that struck vaccine-supply deals with the company. Such agreements were reached in July, well before the somewhat puzzling test data arrived. "

This is most disturbing, because there is absolutely zero incentive for these vaccination companies to "get it right. " If they fuck up with the vaccine and you develop serious side effects in a few years time, then there are zero consequences for Big Pharma companies. Because they will be immune for getting sued. This leaves the door wide open for fraudulently manipulating "trials" in order to push the share price, allowing a few people to get rich quick, because if they get caught then they will be immune from any criminal prosecution, thanks to Trump's Operation Warp Speed.

You had to resort to finding an article in Russia Today to support your delusional thoughts about vaccines? Have you heard of the stock markets and shares going up and down based on companies performance? What do you think the investors would do if AstraZeneca fails, buying more shares? I'm sure you know that RT is trying to praise the Russia's vaccine over the others, right? Of course you do and you have written this post just to see if we spotted it!

It's like paying a hooker E1000 in advance for a E50 session, and hoping that you get E950 back after 30 minutes. While being surrounded by 10 muscular "boyfriends" of this hooker. You'll have zero chance! Crazy sex addicts here are so scared into wanting a highly controversial and highly experimental mRNA vaccine for a simple flu with a infection mortality rate of 0,05% so they can fuck some hookers in the short term, that they are completely ignoring the possibility that perhaps in a few years time they might develops serious auto-immune problems.

Long-term efficacy and safety of any product can only be evaluated over time and I hope you understand this concept! The evaluation and approval processes of new products is much more stringent now, but you are welcome to go into crowds and shag every escort you come across. After all is only a flu and if you are still not doing so, you are the usual coward Trumpian wanker willing to put his own habits over other people's safety.

https://mises.org/wire/what-covid-va...-fails-mention

"Cases" were defined by positive polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing. There was no information about the cycle number for the PCR tests. "

Even by your standards, this is the most idiotic quote to report here. PCR amplification is done by standard protocols!

"There is no evidence, yet, that the vaccine prevented any hospitalizations or any deaths. The Moderna announcement claimed that eleven cases in the control group were "severe" disease, but "severe" was not defined. "

The data has not been published in peer-reviewed medical journals and therefore it must be considered unchecked at this moment in time. So far we only have the results that the manufacturers have communicated because they still have to submit the data to a medical journal, where it will be checked in detail.

"There is no information about how long any protective benefit from the vaccine would persist."

To confirm how long it will last you need something called time and this is true for any new product coming into the market.

"There is no information about safety. None."

There is actually, as that is the whole point of conducting clinical trials around the world, but it's not been published yet.

"My colleagues include resident physicians and faculty physicians who work with covid patients on a daily basis. I have asked a number of my colleagues whether they will be first in line for the new vaccine. I have yet to hear any of my colleagues respond affirmatively."

Speculative and inconclusive I can say the same thing of the opposite with my hospital colleagues.

"The reasons for hesitancy are that the uncertainties about safety exceed what they perceive to be a small benefit. In other words, my colleagues would prefer to take their chances with covid rather than beta test the vaccine."

That is the principle of natural selection, only the well equipped (mentally and physically) will survive and transmit genes to the next generations and I won't be sorry to lose some anti-vaxxers from this world over the next few weeks. I would actually celebrate it!

[BigBuddy69]

Everyone knows that Russia today is a very reliable media. Do you have the opinion of the dudes from Qanon? I trust them with my life.

[HammerTime96]

For all the "vaccine" fanboys expecting a summer 2021 FKK fun in Germany, here's what the mainstream media is not telling you;.

https://www.rt.com/news/507829-astra...ine-questions/

"What AstraZeneca did, though, was to secure full indemnity from all damages in most countries that struck vaccine-supply deals with the company. Such agreements were reached in July, well before the somewhat puzzling test data arrived. "

This is most disturbing, because there is absolutely zero incentive for these vaccination companies to "get it right. " If they fuck up with the vaccine and you develop serious side effects in a few years time, then there are zero consequences for Big Pharma companies. Because they will be immune for getting sued. This leaves the door wide open for fraudulently manipulating "trials" in order to push the share price, allowing a few people to get rich quick, because if they get caught then they will be immune from any criminal prosecution, thanks to Trump's Operation Warp Speed.

It's like paying a hooker E1000 in advance for a E50 session, and hoping that you get E950 back after 30 minutes. While being surrounded by 10 muscular "boyfriends" of this hooker. You'll have zero chance! Crazy sex addicts here are so scared into wanting a highly controversial and highly experimental mRNA vaccine for a simple flu with a infection mortality rate of 0,05% so they can fuck some hookers in the short term, that they are completely ignoring the possibility that perhaps in a few years time they might develops serious auto-immune problems.

https://mises.org/wire/what-covid-va...-fails-mention

"Cases" were defined by positive polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing. There was no information about the cycle number for the PCR tests. "

"There is no evidence, yet, that the vaccine prevented any hospitalizations or any deaths. The Moderna announcement claimed that eleven cases in the control group were "severe" disease, but "severe" was not defined. "

"There is no information about how long any protective benefit from the vaccine would persist."

"There is no information about safety. None."

"My colleagues include resident physicians and faculty physicians who work with covid patients on a daily basis. I have asked a number of my colleagues whether they will be first in line for the new vaccine. I have yet to hear any of my colleagues respond affirmatively."

"The reasons for hesitancy are that the uncertainties about safety exceed what they perceive to be a small benefit. In other words, my colleagues would prefer to take their chances with covid rather than beta test the vaccine."

[MaxSquatter]

Neither is that concerning to me. I am just trying to counter the catastrophic argument that this lockdown will never end by saying it seems likely the western world will be put in a new paradigm of registry and tracking with annual vaccines. And with that in place we'll be allowed to go about mongering and traveling etc like we used to. That scenario seems most likely to me.

So it sounds that the threat of concern is specifically mandatory coronavirus vaccination for travel? Is this headed the way of a "slippery slope" debate? Or is it the coronavirus vaccine that specifically concerns you?

[Mursenary]

The newness of it would be that this would be a registry for everyone in the western world who wants to do "public" things like travel, go to concerts, bars, hotels. You would have to stay up to date on corona vaccines, boosters, etc and that would be a very new thing. That would also seem to be something that would make their trouble of destroying economies around the world worth it to them. Tracking and making huge profits off the hapless public. At that point why would they want to keep the tyranny going?

So it sounds that the threat of concern is specifically mandatory coronavirus vaccination for travel? Is this headed the way of a "slippery slope" debate? Or is it the coronavirus vaccine that specifically concerns you?

[MaxSquatter]

The newness of it would be that this would be a registry for everyone in the western world who wants to do "public" things like travel, go to concerts, bars, hotels. You would have to stay up to date on corona vaccines, boosters, etc and that would be a very new thing. That would also seem to be something that would make their trouble of destroying economies around the world worth it to them. Tracking and making huge profits off the hapless public. At that point why would they want to keep the tyranny going?

So how is that different than now where nearly every Western child since at least the 80's has had mandatory vaccinations. Eastern and Pacific nations at one point mandated BCG vaccines for Tuberculosis. Most of the developed world has had mandatory vaccinations and records thereof for decades. And besides declaring recent acute illnesses, allergies, and certain vaccine specific health questions, I've never had to list my medical history when receiving a vaccine. Really, what would be different with a coronavirus vaccine?

[BigBuddy69]

This is why humility is so important, you read but you haven't really understood what you read.

Says the guy who has been constantly insulting all the guys who dare to contradict him, describing the people of Southern Europe as a burden and parasites http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2447226 (yet he goes to Madrid to get his cock sucked) , praising Trump and Bolsonaro and using the same words as the orange golfer (shithole country for instance). He even qualified "LE Monde" as a fake news media while he's playing with his willy watching Fox News. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Le-Monde.

Lockdown :
an official order to control the movement of people or vehicles because of a dangerous situation

Source: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari...glish/lockdown.

I bet there is only one public museum in Stockholm with a maximum capacity of 3 people according to you no? Because closing the museums sounds like trying to control the movement of people to me!

Humilty :
the quality of not thinking that you are better than other people; the quality of being humble

You should really try harder!

[Turgid]

............The FKK days are over folks, better get used to it and dust off that old "Pick Up Artist" book again! LOL!.........

OH NO! I could never go back to that for picking up chicks. I have gotten so used to my wallet doing all the talking. If it is as you say then its wankee doodle for me.

[Mursenary]

Here's a prediction for US covid numbers. We will see a lull in cases in the upcoming holiday week to be followed with a dramatic explosion in December. Christmas 2020 in America will see a new height in the crisis. Depending on how people react to the December crisis, January could be even worse, much worse.

In post-Christmas Christian Europe, without even more radical legislation and effective enforcement of policy, it's all but guaranteed that they will see the most wide spread wave across the continent yet.

[Gino02]

Now that USA will have a China backed President starting January 2021, how long do you think it will take USA to become like China? Do you think this (below) is an example and only a start?

"Los Angeles to shut off water and power to homes hosting large parties or gatherings" (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-ang...es-gatherings/).

[Mursenary]

You're wrong matter how you try to twist and turn it.

You claimed that they changed their strategy, but the restrictions are close to exactly the same as in March / April. I guess the definition of a lockdown changed from then to now. Sure, call it a "light lockdown", but in that case we had a light lockdown in March as well.

Let's review McAdon's link: https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artike...rtikel=7604590.

"Sweden's first and third-largest cities are closing public swimming pools, gyms and museums to the general public as well as limiting the number of visitors to local libraries to slow the spread of Covid-19. ".

"Public gyms", not all gyms. Public gyms. They probably constitute 1-10% of the total number of gyms..

So what's your end goal here with these posts? To assert that nothing has changed in Sweden from 2 months ago? Or to assert that no mitigation efforts are justified? Or to suggest that Sweden has made no mitigation efforts at all? How about we set a permanent goal post for whatever it is you are trying to convince everyone here. Let's be specific.