Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Sirioja]

For French shit cars, when Ferrari, Lamborghini, MacLaren, Porsche supercars don't reach 350 km / h, when Formula 1 are at maximum 370 km / h, but made with French brains and hands, Bugatti, Germans are not able to build among VAG group, is not far from 450 km / h very soon. I also remember V6 engine PRV in Alpine A310 , but also Renault, Peugeot, Citroen and even Volvo, with last letter V for Volvo. If we take Volvo V40 , Golf, Audi A3 not quattro, BMW1 not xdrive, Mercedes A class, any Japanese in this category and 308 , all with same engine power, 150/180 or 200 power, on north Nuburgring which is the truth to test cars performances, then 308 Peugeot is first for sure, because Peugeot have the best sporty balance since decades. Of course in France, not many powerful cars, because speed is like a crime, but when I m arrested overspeeding by French police, they don't put me in jail, when I was never caught overspeeding in Switzerland but treated like a criminal and put with Albanian drugs dealers.

[Paulie97]

Masks don't work.

Social distancing doesn't work.

Covid is no worse than the flu.

US doctors are inflating the numbers for profit.

Vaccines can never work because Covid mutates.

Hugo Chavez, George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and a Venezuelan voting machine software company stole the election from Trump.

That's just a small sample. It's the age of the internet, so just lie, ignore all contrary evidence or requests for proof, and lie some more. Be encouraged as a lot of people in this day and age have an insatiable appetite for this stuff. Wink.

[ExpatLover]

Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.

Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))

Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.

Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.

Yes for sure, Sweden 10 million people nearly 7000 deaths, very great success.

[Paulie97]

Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.

Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))

Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.

Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.

Compare Sweden to their Nordic neighbors, which is most appropriate given the very similar demographics and logistics, and your whole thesis falls apart. That's given the much higher per capita death rates, for example Sweden 11 times that of Norway. Then you have many countries with widespread compliance with health measures, masks, social distancing, etc. Like Thailand, South Korea, and Taiwan that did extremely well at saving lives and your notion plummet even further. It still amazes me how far so many here go to keep repeating the same fallacies over and over even after they've comprehensively refuted at least 50 times already. It doesn't say much for the IQ of the average monger.

https://www.logicalfallacies.org/arg...epetition.html

[Tuber19]

There's no lockdown in Sweden, ...

It's still funny to see that Sweden has less deaths per capita than France despite the lockdown in France. Didn't France close their museums?

Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.

Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))

Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.

Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.

[Mursenary]

There's no lockdown in Sweden, despite the closed museums. Yet again you continue with your false and ignorant comments.
It's still funny to see that Sweden has less deaths per capita than France despite the lockdown in France. Didn't France close their museums?

From Fox New, straight from Tegnell's mouth:

Captures the point I was trying to make. Behavior of the population might actually matter more than the lockdown mandate. Between (A) nationwide lockdown where half the population ignores it and (B) voluntary lockdown where 90 percent of the population comply, I believe the latter is more effective.

The issue of herd immunity is difficult, Anders Tegnell, Swedens top epidemiologist, said at a briefing in Stockholm on Tuesday, according to Bloomberg. We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now.

"In common with other countries were trying to slow down the spread as much as possible. ... To imply that we let the disease run free without any measures to try to stop it is not true, Tegnell told the publication at the time.

I want to make it clear, no, we did not lockdown like many other countries, but we definitely had a virtual lockdown, Tegnell continued. Swedes changed their behavior enormously. We stopped traveling even more than our neighboring countries. The airports had no flights anywhere, the trains were running at a few percent of normal service, so there were enormous changes in society.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/herd-immunity-not-stopping-coronavirus-spread-sweden

So what's your end goal here with these posts? To assert that nothing has changed in Sweden from 2 months ago? Or to assert that no mitigation efforts are justified? Or to suggest that Sweden has made no mitigation efforts at all? How about we set a permanent goal post for whatever it is you are trying to convince everyone here. Let's be specific.

Short answer, there is no end goal. Just the endless ramblings of jester.

[ShooBree]

I should apologise to ShooBree for once because I just realized that I mixed the lines (that's probably the only time I'll do that). It's late and I'm tired but using the good figures (income and not expenditure) shows that France gave EU around 340 euros per citizen and Sweden around 350 so we're still far away from what he said (two times more). So his argument is still incorrect but so were mines.

Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.stat...-to-eu-budget/

[ShooBree]

Some gyms are closing actually. But if you prefer we can talk about "partial lockdown" like Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...alcohol-curfew (fake news media?) . I have to admit that I'm rather fond of the expression 'light lockdown', just like the Huffington post https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b6a209e0b9d271 (libtard media from a shithole country?

I guess you say it proudly in their face everytime you go to Madrid to get laid because it's forbidden in your heaven on earth.

Isn't he some kind of turkish version of your models Trump and Bolsonaro?

That's the only point where you are not totally wrong but if you want to look at history, I suggest that you think at how the iron ore your country sold to Germany during WWII was used to build weapons and some other stuff to exterminate innocent civilians.

Let me apologize, I didn't realize until now that you're retarded.

It's 40 billions per year, not 40 millions. You really should learn how to read & count. We always knew that French cars were shit. Now we know that French schools are shit and you got shit for brains.

The simple fact that you think that Bolsonaro and Erdogan are the same shows how ignorant you're. But of course, it's not as embarrassing as when you confuse billions with millions. Both Erdogan and Macron are imperialistic warmongers.

The agriculture support is widely criticized, its not something that the EU should waste the members money on. But they still do because France saw their chance to steal more money. Isn't it embarrassing that Sweden contributes with twice as much as France on a per capita basis? I think it's both impressive and embarrassing how the Swedish politicians could agree to the Swedish people being robbed like that. The French continue to steal, they have 15% of the population and receives 17.5 % of the agriculture support. They used to steal close to 25%.

There's no lockdown in Sweden, despite the closed museums. Yet again you continue with your false and ignorant comments.

I notice that you have regressed back to a 5 year old. You can't even give a good answer on why the EU and the whole circus are moving between Brussels and Strasbourg. A waste of money just because of the French and their shitty attitude notorious around the world.

It's still funny to see that Sweden has less deaths per capita than France despite the lockdown in France. Didn't France close their museums?

[Sirioja]

When we have now much too many, more than 52.000 covid deaths in my little France, I would say 55/60.000 with deaths at home, with doctors who did let die at their home too old and weak people, but without our 2 confine, we should have at least 400000 deaths, when second confine now made decreasing our covid figures and our stores reopened, but not ski. But South Korea is now under third wave. Winter will be long in North hemisphere, if vaccines don t kill too many, but not efficient to protect on next day. Summer should help south.

[Sirioja]

Of course when you and many others leave room and girl being frustrated, better to save your money, even Y/ou won t need when you will die, I wish you as late as possible, staying healthy from covid until then, but I like to think I made a good job most of times, surprising them, treating them like women, seeing their round eyes, of course a bit difficult to make them feel when not kissing nor datying them, and I love to repeat to make improve sweet beauties for me, then no frustration but real enjoyment. In real life, women have headache with most of men, but ask for sex few men who give them pleasure, orgasms also pay in paid sex, giving to some WGs will to give back, but just have to experience to know and enjoy when a girl gives you without needing to beg nor to play grocer. Most interesting woman part about their reactions and reflex.

[Mursenary]

We are simply killing everyone is natural immunity by keeping everything closed. More people will die because of these lockdowns, not only from economic hardship but also from lower natural immunity as they stay home too much. This is totally absurd policy, try to save 1% of the population who are with weak health, by sacrificing lives of 99% of the population who were healthy.

Meh. Obviously the people of most nations can't even handle common sense efforts such as wearing a simple mask in enclosed spaces or keeping some sort of distance. If people never fought over ridiculous assertions like this being just the flu, masks don't work, blah blah blah, extended lock downs may not have been necessary. Instead, we still have people bickering at every step of the way when this could have been contained months ago. Now, when presented with an easy out with a relatively easy to develop vaccine, half of you all even bicker about that.

Remember what happened in the beginning with zero behavior changes? Death rates were in the 5 to 13% range in NYC, Milan, Madrid, and Barcelona.

Why were rates that high? Because doctors were in charge of twice the patient load. Nurses had double and triple the number of patients deemed safe nursing ratios. We didn't have enough ventilators, high flow oxygen devices, or numerous basic supplies. Hospital laboratories and pharmacies were overwhelmed to process diagnostic tests and mix medications in a timely fashion. In NYC, we started off pretty decently, kept deaths low. But when ICU patients began piling up in the Emergency room because there were no hospital beds to put them in, people needlessly died. When I had to put in IV's for grandma nurse brought out of retirement because she couldn't even see or feel veins anymore, we were in trouble. When you have pediatricians taking care of adult patients in hospitals, that's when people died.

McA already pointed out the differences (again) between a nation who's (general) populace more or less behaved accordingly versus a non compliant population with mandatory restrictions. The people to blame are the ones who keep making assertions like the one quoted. When they quote cherry-picked, editorial "science," I have no idea what the hell they're talking about. Lose natural immunity? Loss of immunity to what exactly? Loss of life due to suicide and delayed surgeries? No data suggests that those numbers are even a significant fraction of covid deaths even with mitigation efforts.

[Mursenary]

I am a 60+ guy, I can understand why some man have difficulties to control their own libido, and for some of them it is the libido that controls them. But why going to prostitutes and not to normal woman with whom at least for me the sex is alway better.

Like someone else said, different strokes for different folks.

I'll even add that the best sex of my life has been with prostitutes, both pornstar-pounding sex and sensual Girlfriend-experience-honeymoon sex. Not to say that civilians sex is always inferior but it's harder to find civilian girls with both the authentic sensuality AND the experience of a prostitute. Now, it might take the second or third session with a prostitute to open up the sensual-passionate side, but when they do, combine that with their experience, the top end with a prostitute is noticeably higher than with normal girls. In my experience, the only civilians that came close to matching my experiences with a prostitute who is comfortable with you are the girls who are a little crazy in the head. Or ones who are high on some psychoactive drug, I. E. MDMA / Molly / Ecstasy.

[ExpatLover]

Different strokes for different folks. My brother introduced me to prostitution over 40 years ago but now he prefers to hang out and drink with his buddies and refuses when I offer to pay for a hooker for him.

This is true when I started to monger in 2004 after my divorce I was like crazy planning my yearly agenda so I can visit FKK, or planning my weekly agenda to meet some escort. Today my point of interest switch to other things, like investing in shares, buying some classic cars or some real estate and sometimes I am questioning myself how I could spent so much money, energy and time with prostitutes just because there in no future with those girls and also at least for me you leave the room more frustrated then when you entered. But this is my life and I have no regrets except the money spent.

[Turgid]

So many other interesting things to do than fucking prostitutes, at least if they were like several years back young, fresh, beauty, natural today to spend my money and my time with overfucked girls, with sili, tatoos, smoking, hair extensions. Sorry it is not my cup of tea.

Different strokes for different folks. My brother introduced me to prostitution over 40 years ago but now he prefers to hang out and drink with his buddies and refuses when I offer to pay for a hooker for him.

[McAdonis]

From Fox New, straight from Tegnell's mouth:

The issue of herd immunity is difficult, Anders Tegnell, Swedens top epidemiologist, said at a briefing in Stockholm on Tuesday, according to Bloomberg. We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now.

"In common with other countries were trying to slow down the spread as much as possible. ... To imply that we let the disease run free without any measures to try to stop it is not true, Tegnell told the publication at the time.

I want to make it clear, no, we did not lockdown like many other countries, but we definitely had a virtual lockdown, Tegnell continued. Swedes changed their behavior enormously. We stopped traveling even more than our neighboring countries. The airports had no flights anywhere, the trains were running at a few percent of normal service, so there were enormous changes in society.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/herd-immunity-not-stopping-coronavirus-spread-sweden

Captures the point I was trying to make. Behavior of the population might actually matter more than the lockdown mandate. Between (A) nationwide lockdown where half the population ignores it and (B) voluntary lockdown where 90 percent of the population comply, I believe the latter is more effective.