Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[HammerTime96]

Would you please stop whining. You are going against virtually every contagious disease specialist on the planet. It's not just about "the media," far from it. We need to do some masks and social distancing for a while. A vaccine should be available to the general public around spring, summer next year. Jack off in the meantime. Also get a life outside of reading kooky websites and ranting here.

If you're such a 'genius' then tell us what the mortality rate is! It's barely higher than the normal flu, 99% make a full recovery, and most people don't even realise that they are "positive" unless they take a test.

[Sirioja]

Figures are more than 1 million deaths from covid. US have nearly as many as Western Europe. Nobody know for China. Much too many deaths, around 40 thousands, for my country, in my opinion, and even less than from cigaret or pollution. Now also grippe arriving.

[ExpatLover]

Always the same story when the reality doesn't fit what you want the reality does not exists. I am 60+ and I never saw such a terrific situation. Everyone knows that wearing a mask brings the people to be globally more careful. The situation that you describe for Germany is wrong, I am half German and I can tell you that the situation is deteriorating quickly there same in France and Spain. Britain is thinking about a new lock down. I have no solutions, I just believe that by restricting as much as possible all my social activities I protect myself and also the others.

It is stupid to underestimate the power of the covid by saying Trump got sick but after 10 days he is fit again, are you so sure about it? Do you believe you will can the same treatment? You have the right to play with your life but not with the life of the others, just imagine that after a FKK visit you infect one of your family member who needs to be hospitalized despite he / she is in good health and 42 YO, but unfortunately because of the behaviour of so many people who are not taking enough care, the hospital is fully booked, there is no bed free. May be you will change a little bit the way you think.

The politicians are so anxious just because they know that the medical capacities are limited and that very quickly the things can get out of control, the worst is to come concerning the covid at least in Europe.

[Paulie97]

So much bullshit written on this forum, mostly by people who blindly subscribe to the scaremongering view of the mainstream media,!

Would you please stop whining. You are going against virtually every contagious disease specialist on the planet. It's not just about "the media," far from it. We need to do some masks and social distancing for a while. A vaccine should be available to the general public around spring, summer next year. Jack off in the meantime. Also get a life outside of reading kooky websites and ranting here.

[Pessimist]

When girls are off from work for a day and I call to chat and I ask what are you doing? The answer is the same all the time: cleaning the house, cooking or watching tv. These creatures are women, the are designed to protect life and care about things. They don't engage much in anything outside the FKK or brothel. Social life, drinking and partying don't exist for them..

Not expressing my opinion on the main thrust of your comment but don't you think the explanation for the first part of your comment is because most of those girls are Romanian, in a foreign country, don't have own car / may not know how to drive, live on prem in the club, may not have much social skills / friends outside the club? I suspect the German local girls would definitely have more life" as you put it. For that matter, many guys may not have much life besides work and home.

When you ask the Romie girls about their vacations, they light up. They do spend time on the beach, hit up the night spots in their home cities in Romania, whatnot.

[HammerTime96]

This below was posted in the GT thread, but since it's relevant to all of Germany and all clubs, I'll answer here in this thread.

I have seen this "24 hour rule" floated around the various forums, but I never saw a link posted to news article or RKI website. Admittedly, I just scanned very quickly. Is the 24 hour guideline only applicable for transit through Germany? In other words, a guest worker driving from Belgium back to his home in Romania, which allows him to stay overnight at a hotel en route?

So much bullshit written on this forum, mostly by people who blindly subscribe to the scaremongering view of the mainstream media, and are unable to think even one millimeter outside the box or consider other facts.

Here is the link (in English) from the RKI: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...ublicationFile.

I sort of remember previously there was a 72 hour rule, but I'd have to go back in the archives to find that, but I'm too busy now to delve into that. What's important and relevant is the latest information in the above link, and there is nothing written about 24 or 72 hours in there.

Here is an RKI list (pdf in English) of all countries affected: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...ublicationFile.

And here is the main page where the updated lists are published: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...biete_neu.html.

You can avoid self-quarantine by providing a negative PCR test, not older than 48 hours: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...ublicationFile.

The main page for the above link is here, where you'll be able to find updates if anything changes: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/...rus/Tests.html.

When the few clubs that managed to open will close again: thank the scaremongers here!

[HammerTime96]

As I said in reply to Turgid, health concern is only one aspect of it for me; many other things need to fall into place before I can visit these clubs. In the meanwhile, chatting with likeminded people keeps whetting my appetite. Not that I need that much whetting; as it is I feel like I am famished LOL.

Keep on whetting your appetite, thanks to the scaremongers they will rather close the clubs, instead of reopening them.

What we learnt since mid of February is that many politicians are liars, taking wrong decisions even for themselves (trump, Johson, Trudeau. All got the covid).

And how many of those politicians died? Fact is that they all recovered within roughly 10 days or even quicker, just like a normal flu. So what's your point? They: they "lied" because they got a flu virus? Are you suggesting it's possible to stay free of viruses and bacteria for your entire life? Well, here's a pro-tip for you: stay away from hookers, FKKs or even sex and kissing or DATY a girl in general if you're scared of bacteria, STDs, or viruses. Perhaps join a church and live life as a monk without sex, locked up in a monastery for the rest of your life? That way you'll stay free of germs, viruses and bacteria, but it probably won't be much fun, LOL!

Even German state-owned media ARD Extra is now saying that all the scaremongering about "cases" is incorrect and that people should come to their senses. Oh, and these are not journalists or politicians saying this (they keep on spreading lies about the "dangers of SARC CoV2), but these are medical professors and virologists trying to stop the madness.

German state-owned ARD Extra mini-documentary about Covid19, in German: https://youtu.be/NV7BWpvpK7o.

Of course the scaremongers won't react to this video because 1, it doesn't suit their narrative, 2 they can't counter it with facts, and 3 they block all users who back up a different opinion with hard facts and links to official website, like the WHO website about the ineffectiveness of wearing masks.

https://www.who.int/publications/i/i...l-coronavirus-(2019-ncov) -outbreak.

Quote: "At present, there is no direct evidence (from studies on COVID- 19 and in healthy people in the community) on the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people in the community to prevent infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19. ".

"No direct evidence on the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people," but the fools here keep on destroying the FKK business!

The WHO is also now reversing on the effectiveness of lockdowns, but all the dumb sheep will run after the politicians and "authorities" who are locking down everything again: https://twitter.com/spectator/status...827858434?s=20.

"Look what's happening to the tourism industry." "Lockdowns are making poor people a lot poorer."

The only point he was missing is "look what's happening to those poor Rumanian FKK girls!

If some people here are easily scared, fine, lock yourself into your home and wear 3 face masks in the supermarket, but stop everybody else from enjoying life!

[Sirioja]

And the simple answer to this is a resounding no!

We do not live in the 1980's. This is 2020. We have internet!

So don't be even more naive.

I never said rural girls give better services, but I always said most of Romanians don't really come from Bucharest city or Constanza or Cluj as they lie, but from deep Romania, many from Moldovian part around Iasie, and as I find lies are so boring in land of lies, I find much more attractive when a girl tells me she is from Buzau, Timisoara, Pitesti or Craiova than always same lies coming from capital. I always find little part of truth much more interesting and attractive than always same lies, reason why I m so interested by their orgasmus, but only when you can't touch them because they are too sensitive now, because truth from inside a woman. Of course no interest for fake porn moanings, I even stop when they play this. I was really happy when Daniela LR who needed to tell me about my ex, confirmed me what she had told me when she started, before learning to lie and losing interest for me. Beauty, elegance, charm and truth are rare in FKK land of lies, why they worth much more for me, when so many lies are so boring, like just emptying balls, when little spark is so much more enjoyable. But you just have to be able to experience.

[Pistons]

I am more curious if the rural girls give better service because "they are more pristine, less sophisticated or polluted by corruption" as Mr. Sirioja thinks. At the end of the day, looks are something you can observe with your eyes and it does not matter if Iasi girls are supposed to be prettier in case the Iasi girl standing in front of me does not appeal to my eyes and senses.

And the simple answer to this is a resounding no!

We do not live in the 1980's. This is 2020. We have internet!

So don't be even more naive.

[Smoke Light]

For those who still believe that there is no risk, a Australian study just came out, saying that the virus can survive 25+ days on plastic or metallic surfaces (door handle, toilets, windows, tables.) and still being active. It is exactly what I was writing weeks back and it is why I am keeping strong social distancing.

When girls are off from work for a day and I call to chat and I ask what are you doing? The answer is the same all the time: cleaning the house, cooking or watching tv. These creatures are women, the are designed to protect life and care about things. They don't engage much in anything outside the FKK or brothel. Social life, drinking and partying don't exist for them. They keep social distance, wear masks and follow the rules. My point, let them work! Don't take away their job from them, it's not going to stop, you only forcing P6 underground to benefit pimps and LE. Prostitution never stops being it a third world war or pandemic. Let them work, openly and safely, support their trade and efforts. Safety rules are fine, they follow them as much as they can. Closing a safe workplace for sex workers is the worst thing you can do, regardless of the reasons.

[Gino02]

I hope you get there and enjoy your trip. The messages of doom from Expat Lover and Nooky Ninja are not wrong, and these guys are entitled to their opinions and to stay well away to keep themselves and others safe. Those who decide to attend (if they are now still able) know they are taking risks. The girls know this too. Each person there is deciding to take a risk. It is also true that they are deciding to take a risk of infecting others if they get the virus, are asymptomatic and give it to others. But this is no more the risk than sitting close to someone in a cafe. They touch a surface, then you do and get it.

Truth is that this is going to be with us for a long time. SARS happened 20 years ago. There is no vaccine against it yet. We have to just get on with it and enjoy life to the full.

I hope Admin again moves these comments to the appropriate thread regarding FKKs and Coronavirus. If not, every thread on ISG will be dominated by C19 comments. I still don't really know why anyone NOT intending to go to an FKK until this is all over (possibly meaning for the rest of their lives) are continuing to visit forums for people who are intending to go. Entirely their prerogative of course, but a bit like deciding to go to an Italian restaurant even though you don't eat Italian food! Really quite odd!

Yeah agree with you, it's odd. It's like someone commenting on a peanut review saying everyone should stop eating peanuts because he just found out he now has peanut allergy. Very odd.

[PayForIt]

True, is kind of crazy. But still, I think it's amazing that the club can continue to operate normally. In my region the clubs never re-opened since March. People who govern Berlin seem to be really reasonable. Prostitution will happen anyway, it would just be illegal and much more unsafe. I hope nothing changes this week, because my trip to Berlin is already planned. Again, kind of crazy. But these are crazy times.

I hope you get there and enjoy your trip. The messages of doom from Expat Lover and Nooky Ninja are not wrong, and these guys are entitled to their opinions and to stay well away to keep themselves and others safe. Those who decide to attend (if they are now still able) know they are taking risks. The girls know this too. Each person there is deciding to take a risk. It is also true that they are deciding to take a risk of infecting others if they get the virus, are asymptomatic and give it to others. But this is no more the risk than sitting close to someone in a cafe. They touch a surface, then you do and get it.

Truth is that this is going to be with us for a long time. SARS happened 20 years ago. There is no vaccine against it yet. We have to just get on with it and enjoy life to the full.

I hope Admin again moves these comments to the appropriate thread regarding FKKs and Coronavirus. If not, every thread on ISG will be dominated by C19 comments. I still don't really know why anyone NOT intending to go to an FKK until this is all over (possibly meaning for the rest of their lives) are continuing to visit forums for people who are intending to go. Entirely their prerogative of course, but a bit like deciding to go to an Italian restaurant even though you don't eat Italian food! Really quite odd!

[Nooky Ninja]

What we learnt since mid of February is that many politicians are liars, taking wrong decisions even for themselves (trump, Johson, Trudeau. All got the covid) I try to make my own opinion by listening to all kind of medical experts around the world and after that I try to do what I consider the best for me. I still believe it is not safe to visit bars, restaurants, public toilets, FKK, gym. I don't want to support all those industries, therefore I will not visit a prostitute or a FKK or a bar or a restaurant I can live without. It is not the most important in the difficult time we are facing in Europe.

Admin moved some related comments to Covid thread. Ninja understand why but it is also important that this thread not only have views that all fine and fun. So EL comment welcome IMHO.

On current Berlin situation. Last week Berlin was near 500 new confirmed cases per day. Government now shutting restaurants and bars at 2300 hours. Artemis stays open without serving food or booze after 2300. But travelers should be aware Berlin now on both German internal quarantine lists, and several countries also like Switzerland. So if you travel from Berlin to example Munich you have to show recent negative test and still cannot stay over night in hotel if from Berlin. Other states allow travel but you must quarantine and show test result minimum of 5 days after arriving to stay.

All this varies from each German state. Happened last Thursday and many aspects still unclear and confusing. Governments can make big fines if not reporting correctly but not clear really how they can enforce all this. Still situation is serious and it changes every day. Some info here https://www.thelocal.de/20201006/why...within-germany So those thinking about coming to Arts should factor this into planning. Not good situation and of course affects mood of all.

[ExpatLover]

For those who still believe that there is no risk, a Australian study just came out, saying that the virus can survive 25+ days on plastic or metallic surfaces (door handle, toilets, windows, tables.) and still being active. It is exactly what I was writing weeks back and it is why I am keeping strong social distancing.

[Mr Ho]

What we learnt since mid of February is that many politicians are liars, taking wrong decisions even for themselves (trump, Johson, Trudeau. All got the covid) I try to make my own opinion by listening to all kind of medical experts around the world and after that I try to do what I consider the best for me. I still believe it is not safe to visit bars, restaurants, public toilets, FKK, gym. I don't want to support all those industries, therefore I will not visit a prostitute or a FKK or a bar or a restaurant I can live without. It is not the most important in the difficult time we are facing in Europe.

I think we learnt that since long time LOL!