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  1. #9644
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Nope, Russia has always had access to the Black Sea. Ukraine changes nothing.
    Ask Putin why he wanted Crimea and now Odessa? Just for artists and culture?

  2. #9643
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Seriously? The only thing that CCP troll Mac has ever done on this forum is to take snippets out of context from the posts of other members, twist them and create strawmen to fit the CCP agenda. That is the one and only tactic he has Ever shown from day one that I have seen from his posts. It is nothing new.

    Mercenary Nurse, or Murse for short, is just a roughneck sidekick of Mac and brings up the muscle end of their partnership here.

    There is no question this Ukraine invasion is a dress rehearsal of the Taiwan invasion that the CCP thugs have been planning for a while. Watch for Mac to start his next level of discourse on how China is justified in destroying and occupying Taiwan with a whole bunch of "what about xyz stuff " from the past. Murse as usual will mimic his boss Mac and serve to attack anyone who questions the CCP Mac troll.
    Funny how Pessimist started as an overly (but obviously fake) polite personality but it took little effort from me to expose him as an overly emotional, yet somehow still robotic, scumbag. That's what happens when you become trained by artificial pleasantries.

    It's an endless cycle of me revealing his overly emotional nature behind the mask of fake "intellectual" pleasantries. In the end, I think he likes being emotionally buttfucked. Probably why he keeps coming back. Tool.

  3. #9642
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    It's like you're talking to random internet tropes than actual individual people and responding to the actual content of their posts. You have too many years to be posting this way, should know better.
    These CCP thugs think their Peking opera is cute. The master waves away the murder of thousands by comparing it to some mild domestic squabble, and the apprentice nurse chimes in with his inane analogy to cool crowds. They make the perfunctory "we are against the murder of thousands" disclaimer and then proceed to rationalize the Russian genocide by listing every imaginary thing the US and W European nations have ever done in their history. It is all a big fucking whatabout. The CCP master proclaims "all great nations (and he conveniently slides in his own native shitCCPland into that list) do dominate their neighbors, so what is new". Pardon me, I missed the last time US murdered several thousands in Mexico or Canada or even Jamaica. The apprentice shit dumpling (who gets all worked up when I said throat slashing Moslem thugs needed to be deported out of Eu) is happily providing a discourse on the ignorance of Americans (he uses "we" as if anyone believes this CCP thug can ever be mistaken for an American).

    If these two thugs were still in their native CCPshitland, they would have been thrown into some shitty prison for so much as clearing their throats on wechat. Around here, safely in the middle of security and freedom provided by the west, they spout their treasonous venom against the west.

  4. #9641
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Shows your inability to read and differentiate people's differing stances. God you're a sad Racist homosexual.
    LOL. Homo, Is that an insult? I guess in your native CcP dumpster land they still send gays to gas chambers? Meanwhile on this forum you perform a daily fellatio to your boss Mac with your comments.

    I read you just fine, CCP shit dumpling! You and your ring master Mac have been going giddy with happiness at all the murders in Ukr. Why you thugs could not support this invasion and the upcoming Taiwan invasion from Chengdu or Hebei or wherever you come from is beyond me. Why invest our cities?

  5. #9640
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    In addition, its going to be tough for Russians without KFC, Coke, McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.
    We have to stop to buy Putin gaz and petrol which pay his army. We have to put blind Russia in starvation to force them to wake up and eat their dirty shameful tsar dictator. Bald German has to accept this, even difficult for economy, but we have to get rid of this dangerous or Berlin may be back in new USSR.

  6. #9639
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    There's nothing worse than logical fallacies when it comes to misleading others, but such are readily employed by shady lawyers and politicians, and of course dictators. It's truly sad when we see Euros and even some Americans online pitching Putin's fanciful arguments verbatim. For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes. Those currently employed in Romania and Poland are non-nuclear, and defensive in nature with limited range.

    "Finally, there is Putin's charge that the US has been planning to install missiles in Ukraine as a global-strategic-stability-destroying plan. But in truth, the missiles in question now stationed in Poland and Romania are weapons with conventional warheads and are anti-missile missiles with limited range. They cannot be converted into strategic ICBMs or IRBMs as those are very different technologies. US officials argue the anti-missile missiles are in place largely to preclude the possibilities of a missile attack from Iran should it choose to target its now-developed strategic missiles northward especially if they come to be fitted with nuclear warheads eventually."

    https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...issile-crisis/.
    Considering that Pessimist agrees with you and combining this with his history of deriding you as my brainless lackey with the current nonsensical tirade of his, I'm guessing you can judge where your assertions lie on the spectrum of rationality.

  7. #9638

    Credit Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    In addition, its going to be tough for Russians without KFC, Coke, McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.
    I think an even worse issue for middle class Russians is that their credit cards no longer work. That's led to thousands of Russians being stranded overseas even. But with the ruble being reduced to pretty worthless, I wonder how many would be allowed by their card issuers to keep their credit cards in the first place? Hell, all of this could drive more Russian girls back into the clubs too. If they can even get there from mother Russia!

  8. #9637
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/w...-families.html

    How do we know he has support? It is not as if there were credible, real time polls done in RU after the invasion. There is quite a bit of censorship and that was true even prior the war, nearly total since the invasion. Social media is pulling out.

    And whether he has public support or not is somewhat irrelevant. He will power on.

    But their economy is getting battered. Overnight, when their central bank was sanctioned, they lost access to more than half of their FX reserves which totaled $650 B. Some of their banks were pulled from Swift. Now, their energy and commodities are in danger of being banned from imports from the west. Their stock has been zeroed out in a mater of a few days. Sberbank, the largest Russian bank, is worth almost nothing now. Same fate befell most of their equities. They are sliding irreversibly into being a bigger, whiter version of NK, a client state of CCP China. No wonder the resident CCP thug Mac Adonis is working over time trolling on this site trying to make a case for the biggest sidekick of his fatherland.

    In 20 years, Russian per capita GDP expanded quite nicely from less than $3 K in 1995 to nearly $12 K in 2019. Their people are used to a modicum of good life. This generation does not know how to live like they used to in 1960's. The effect of sanctions works with a time lag when it comes to common people but it does. Stocks are anticipatory and price in bad news months or even years ahead but the same is not true at the ground level. But don't be in any doubt that it will trpedo their economy. It has become a pariah. Should have been for many years, but now it is, firmly. Barring China, no one of consequence will touch them. Even CCP China, despite the rants of their resident troll thug Mac Adonis, is somewhat cautious. Most Chinese banks are refusing to process Russian transactions. Russia spans 9 or 10 time zones but soon they will not have any meaningful aviation thanks to most of the aircraft being foreign made and even foreign owned and supplies of all spare parts cut. The central government on the western edge will lose ever more control of their eastern flank which is already seeing more Chinese immigration. Now, Ru is a client state of China, and as Russian drink themselves to premature deaths, it will get occupied with more Chinese as time goes on. Again, this gladdens the hearts of CCP thugs and their resident agents like macA.
    In addition, its going to be tough for Russians without KFC, Coke, McDonalds, Starbucks, etc.

  9. #9636
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    ...... For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes.....
    Cuban missile crisis: US set up missiles in Turkey, Russia decided to set up missiles in Cuba. US demanded no missiles in Cuba. Russia demanded no missiles in Turkey. US removed missiles in Turkey. End of Cuban missile crisis.

  10. #9635
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    For black sea and next USSR.
    Nope, Russia has always had access to the Black Sea. Ukraine changes nothing.

  11. #9634
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    There's nothing worse than logical fallacies when it comes to misleading others, but such are readily employed by shady lawyers and politicians, and of course dictators. It's truly sad when we see Euros and even some Americans online pitching Putin's fanciful arguments verbatim. For one thing the Cuban missile crisis followed a US attack on Cuban soil. Second it involved nuclear warheads with the power to pick off major US cities in less than 15 minutes. Those currently employed in Romania and Poland are non-nuclear, and defensive in nature with limited range.

    "Finally, there is Putin's charge that the US has been planning to install missiles in Ukraine as a global-strategic-stability-destroying plan. But in truth, the missiles in question now stationed in Poland and Romania are weapons with conventional warheads and are anti-missile missiles with limited range. They cannot be converted into strategic ICBMs or IRBMs as those are very different technologies. US officials argue the anti-missile missiles are in place largely to preclude the possibilities of a missile attack from Iran should it choose to target its now-developed strategic missiles northward especially if they come to be fitted with nuclear warheads eventually."

    https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...issile-crisis/.
    It's like you're talking to random internet tropes than actual individual people and responding to the actual content of their posts. You have too many years to be posting this way, should know better.

  12. #9633
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    LOL. CCP thugs Murse and his boss Mac Adonis were never with the west or the civilized world. Their one and only allegiance was always to their pay master China. They were sent to live among the democratic nations as CCP 5th column and to spread the CCP invention Covid but yeah, from the beginning it was clear where their loyalty pointed to. And yes, Putin is a thuggish genocidal monster but CCP China is as much behind this Ukr invasion as Russia is. They knew in advance when it would happen and delayed it till their cursed CcPympics finished. They are the supply chain providers to Ru even as the rest of this planet cut off and shunned Ru and Putin. The only ones taking any payment from Ru and sending anything to Ru are the CCP thugs. And their reps on this forum Mac and Murse are doing their level best to support their country's bff Putin. Quite a pathetic duo.
    Shows your inability to read and differentiate people's differing stances. God you're a sad Racist homosexual.

    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Mongolian? Rome was at war against Germanic tribes for 100% of its existence. Anyway, the point is that war mongering as used in this case is a bastardization of the term as any frontier nation will be perpetually "at war". The United States was for most of its existence, a frontier nation. And does Cold War count as actual war?

    Anyway, I'll ask again, was Russia's security actually threatened? Has NATO ever had visions of "conquering" Russia? Who would? Why does Russia need Ukraine?

  13. #9632
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Those with their minds already made up that just enjoy arguing on the internet won't read the article, except maybe to quote something out of context and erect a straw man..
    Seriously? The only thing that CCP troll Mac has ever done on this forum is to take snippets out of context from the posts of other members, twist them and create strawmen to fit the CCP agenda. That is the one and only tactic he has Ever shown from day one that I have seen from his posts. It is nothing new.

    Mercenary Nurse, or Murse for short, is just a roughneck sidekick of Mac and brings up the muscle end of their partnership here.

    There is no question this Ukraine invasion is a dress rehearsal of the Taiwan invasion that the CCP thugs have been planning for a while. Watch for Mac to start his next level of discourse on how China is justified in destroying and occupying Taiwan with a whole bunch of "what about xyz stuff " from the past. Murse as usual will mimic his boss Mac and serve to attack anyone who questions the CCP Mac troll.

  14. #9631
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    LOL. CCP thugs Murse and his boss Mac Adonis were never with the west or the civilized world. Their one and only allegiance was always to their pay master China. They were sent to live among the democratic nations as CCP 5th column and to spread the CCP invention Covid but yeah, from the beginning it was clear where their loyalty pointed to. And yes, Putin is a thuggish genocidal monster but CCP China is as much behind this Ukr invasion as Russia is. They knew in advance when it would happen and delayed it till their cursed CcPympics finished. They are the supply chain providers to Ru even as the rest of this planet cut off and shunned Ru and Putin. The only ones taking any payment from Ru and sending anything to Ru are the CCP thugs. And their reps on this forum Mac and Murse are doing their level best to support their country's bff Putin. Quite a pathetic duo.
    Even I most often don't agree with them, probably matter of culture, but many profiles Mursenary / escape and single profile MacAdo are not boss and follower, both from US. I have nothing against him but with his friends, on last time I saw him, I preferred to stay away from MacAdo and I drive from far with expensive gas for girls.

  15. #9630
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    That's exactly what it is though. The myths or "delusions" that you and McAdonis have bought into are exposed through the link below. Sad that anti-American propaganda, especially that which has been popular among many ungrateful Euros has found it's way into discussions of the most recent Russian butchery and attacks on freedom. There hasn't been such a clear dividing line between the good guys and bad guys since World War II. If you aren't with us then you are against us.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
    LOL. CCP thugs Murse and his boss Mac Adonis were never with the west or the civilized world. Their one and only allegiance was always to their pay master China. They were sent to live among the democratic nations as CCP 5th column and to spread the CCP invention Covid but yeah, from the beginning it was clear where their loyalty pointed to. And yes, Putin is a thuggish genocidal monster but CCP China is as much behind this Ukr invasion as Russia is. They knew in advance when it would happen and delayed it till their cursed CcPympics finished. They are the supply chain providers to Ru even as the rest of this planet cut off and shunned Ru and Putin. The only ones taking any payment from Ru and sending anything to Ru are the CCP thugs. And their reps on this forum Mac and Murse are doing their level best to support their country's bff Putin. Quite a pathetic duo.

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