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  1. #9663
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Putin was instructed in USSR. For real facts, he already took Crimea from Ukraine, now aiming targeting Donbass and thinking so strongly about Odessa which is biggest harbor on black sea. Ukraine belong to USSR for him. Nothing about Turkey which is too far from Russia and much stronger.
    Taking those regions does not mean that there is a strategic benefit from it when one already had it. Reform USSR? Sure. To control Black Sea? No.

    Turkey because they control Bosphorus for access to Mediterranean Sea.

    I. E. Russian invasion of Ukraine is not for control of the Black Sea. Simple logic.

  2. #9662
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Disagree completely. Strategic position in the black sea does not change much with or without Ukraine. If it was more control of the Black Sea that they desired, they would fight to control Turkey, no Ukraine.
    Putin was instructed in USSR. For real facts, he already took Crimea from Ukraine, now aiming targeting Donbass and thinking so strongly about Odessa which is biggest harbor on black sea. Ukraine belong to USSR for him. Nothing about Turkey which is too far from Russia and much stronger.

  3. #9661
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Considering that Pessimist agrees with you and combining this with his history of deriding you as my brainless lackey with the current nonsensical tirade of his, I'm guessing you can judge where your assertions lie on the spectrum of rationality.
    Tell you what / who agrees with who. 95% of Western democracy populations agree that Putin is a murderous thug. CCP cell leader Mac agrees with the Chinese propaganda machine which has gone into overdrive in support of their latest stooge (and creating stories of their own about US running biological weapons production in UKR) and Comrade Mac is parroting their talking points. Apprentice Murse occasionally makes a show out of mildly disagreeing with his master but always comes around to lick Mac's behind. In the meanwhile, as described in the BBC article which itself linked to an FT scoop, China is preparing to send weapons to Russia to aid in the slaughter of Ukr, perhaps with the proviso that Ru will reciprocate when China likewise begins its own genocide in Taiwan. CCP master Mac is carefully preparing his talking points for these eventualities.

    Now back to your lame retorts about robots, uptight, yadda yadda.

  4. #9660
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    May be that is true for Russians. No clue about NKans. The Chinese citizenry is very nationalistic and jingoistic. When their government incites them to turn super Xenophobic, they jump at that chance with alacrity. They will gladly burn Japanese cars, dump iPhones, send threats against foreigners / Chinese on wechat when asked by their CCP overlords, and are mighty proud of the suppression of minorities in China.

    Due to the massive censorship (see the NYT article I attached), most Russian citizens may be unaware of the extent of the atrocities perpetrated by their killer ruler. Still, many are taking it to the streets against Putin and almost all the Russians on my Linkedin (1st and 2nd level) connections have been posting strong condemnation of Putin and the invasion (helps that most of them are outside RU). I feel for Russian people, they have never had a good ruler in history, but right now any sympathy and help the West can muster should necessarily go to the good people of UKR.
    Chinese and Russians are scared of their government, so they prefer to play blind. MacAdo and Escape are from US, not CCP.

  5. #9659
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    My overlord, you've awakened the uptight robot. Did you advance the stick up his bum a couple inches too far?
    Touching devotion to your CCP master. Fooling no one with your lame retorts. Even Lindsey protests he is not Trump's appendage once in a while but is firmly attached to the fat whale's bum, as you are to the CCPMac's butt and both of you spreading the CCP garbage on this site (hopefully, you are getting paid).

  6. #9658
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Haha, well I would say the emo kid so far has just shot his little brother, because he felt betrayed. And the cool kid made some promises of security to the little brother that emboldened him to sit at the cool kids table.

    European Union's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Friday:
    My overlord, you've awakened the uptight robot. Did you advance the stick up his bum a couple inches too far?

  7. #9657
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    That's a lie. Please cite reliable sources of people in the US having their right to protest stopped by murder or arrest. (In the US any such arrests are typically voluntary as civil disobedience. Not the same at all.).
    Sources?! LOL. From an obvious troll Dr PoonTang? That will be something. Most likely another CCP paid troll, working for 5 RMB an hour, employed to spread CCP's latest concoctions and lies. With 1. 3 billion hungry mouths to feed, they need a lot of jobs and these internet lie spreaders are among their better paid, more intellectual goons.

  8. #9656
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    People in the USA are arrested or killed by government every day for protesting or filming police in the USA.
    That's a lie. Please cite reliable sources of people in the US having their right to protest stopped by murder or arrest. (In the US any such arrests are typically voluntary as civil disobedience. Not the same at all.).

  9. #9655
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.
    Every person's thinking is shaped by their country of birth and residence. The strong minded person can get out of that framework and think for himself.

  10. #9654
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    If Ukrainians are defeated, I wish not, but I wish they will kill gas pipeline like they destroyed bridges to Kiev. Putin is much more interested to be the master of Black sea for business than by poor Ukraine.
    Disagree completely. Strategic position in the black sea does not change much with or without Ukraine. If it was more control of the Black Sea that they desired, they would fight to control Turkey, no Ukraine.

  11. #9653
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60717902

    For obvious reasons, officials are only telling half the truth probably.

    Most likely China has been supplying weapons and other key rations to Russia and Putin already. For all practical purposes, this invasion is as much the handiwork of China as it is of Putin soon.

    Ru is a client state. NK and Little Kim do not take a piss w / o getting approval from Xi and China, and quite likely Putin got the OK from Xi and China to have invaded Ukr.

    The blood of Ukrainian people is on the hands of CCP too. No wonder Mac Ado is working so hard to demonize the west and US in particular, bringing up any and every allegation from the past in a show of whataboutism.

  12. #9652
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.
    People in the USA are arrested or killed by government every day for protesting or filming police in the USA.

  13. #9651
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Because he wants all of Ukraine for Russian prestige. He already had access to the Black Sea. That claim of yours has no merit.
    If Ukrainians are defeated, I wish not, but I wish they will kill gas pipeline like they destroyed bridges to Kiev. Putin is much more interested to be the master of Black sea for business than by poor Ukraine.

  14. #9650
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    You can't choose where you are born and Russians or Chinese or North Koreans are not free to think, but in Thailand or US, you are.
    May be that is true for Russians. No clue about NKans. The Chinese citizenry is very nationalistic and jingoistic. When their government incites them to turn super Xenophobic, they jump at that chance with alacrity. They will gladly burn Japanese cars, dump iPhones, send threats against foreigners / Chinese on wechat when asked by their CCP overlords, and are mighty proud of the suppression of minorities in China.

    Due to the massive censorship (see the NYT article I attached), most Russian citizens may be unaware of the extent of the atrocities perpetrated by their killer ruler. Still, many are taking it to the streets against Putin and almost all the Russians on my Linkedin (1st and 2nd level) connections have been posting strong condemnation of Putin and the invasion (helps that most of them are outside RU). I feel for Russian people, they have never had a good ruler in history, but right now any sympathy and help the West can muster should necessarily go to the good people of UKR.

  15. #9649
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    What are you now, a fucking historian? How did you start? Oh yeah that's right, no one knows what was your first handle and how many times your fake handles changed. I bet your CCP shit dumpling personality has remained constant.

    I am polite where needed. In the seeking thread, I am polite. I am polite to people that deserve that courtesy; CCP shits that infest foreign lands living on dole and spouting anti West hatred deserve no such considerations. That would include you and your master.
    Manic episode over yet?

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