Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[BobNSuzy]

Guess that reinforces the old adage, time in the market beats timing the market. Got down a devastating 60% in 2022 but held on to most positions and recovered all of it this year. If you truly believe in the stock, missing the recent 15-20% run shouldn't deter getting back in it. Heck, 3-month and year-to-date performance, this particular stock has yet to outperform the likes of Tesla, META, or NVIDIA and it's on pace with the other Magnificent 7 stocks such as Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Alphabet. You haven't missed anything if you were already exposed to those others, which I surely hope most people were. Point is, it's got room to run, so if you believe in it, no harm no foul jumping back in it. It isn't like Adobe hasn't been around forever. You're not exactly missing a 10 x start up company run. It's Adobe, a mega cap stock for several years who's been a stock analyst's darling for over 5 years. Hell, it's only at 80% of it's all time high right now. Here's one of those generic stock website articles from 2020 that already rated it alongside Microsoft, Facebook / Meta, and NVIDIA as the four mega cap "buys". Don't FOMO too much. Unless of course you're a nut who puts 25-50% of his portfolio in a single stock.

https://stocknews.com/news/adbe-fb-m...-for-the-rest/

You will find this interesting because I know you are a Schwab costumer. The other stock I should not have sold is SCHW which I bought after it fell. I didn't hold it long enough because I could not get past the fact they do not give people a competitive interest rate and that is a major profit center for them. I realize there are work arounds for that but they are arguably not the best in their field.

I can't argue with anything you said but if someone got out of an S&P index fund at the peak they are still ahead especially if they are earning 5 1/2% in three month T Bills. 5 1/2% is a lot for a risk free investment when the S&P pays less than 2%. I think there are some people who can do ok timing the market. They also say not to fight the fed. If someone just followed that advise it remains to be seen how that works out this time around.

The premise of the adage, "It is time in the market, not timing the market" is a non sequitor. They say you will miss out on the best days and show calculations of returns if someone would have been magically out on only the best days. Someone would actually do even better if they were magically out on the worst days. On average the stock market goes up instead of down so someone is better in it. That much is true but what they say is non sequitor.

It is all something to consider. It is not like I have never been in the stock market or have an interest in it. I don't really see how it stays up when the interest rates go from 0 to 6% in a year. But, I have an excuse considering that I am not a professional. It remains to be seen how someone will fare just by not fighting the Fed.

Now if you are talking about stock picking which is what this conversation is about, that is a different story.

[Escape Artist]

Unfortunately, I got the idea that I would trade it and sold. I've missed most of the recent run up. I watched the video and I am kicking myself. I have another stock I am kicking myself for selling also.

Guess that reinforces the old adage, time in the market beats timing the market. Got down a devastating 60% in 2022 but held on to most positions and recovered all of it this year. If you truly believe in the stock, missing the recent 15-20% run shouldn't deter getting back in it. Heck, 3-month and year-to-date performance, this particular stock has yet to outperform the likes of Tesla, META, or NVIDIA and it's on pace with the other Magnificent 7 stocks such as Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Alphabet. You haven't missed anything if you were already exposed to those others, which I surely hope most people were. Point is, it's got room to run, so if you believe in it, no harm no foul jumping back in it. It isn't like Adobe hasn't been around forever. You're not exactly missing a 10 x start up company run. It's Adobe, a mega cap stock for several years who's been a stock analyst's darling for over 5 years. Hell, it's only at 80% of it's all time high right now. Here's one of those generic stock website articles from 2020 that already rated it alongside Microsoft, Facebook / Meta, and NVIDIA as the four mega cap "buys". Don't FOMO too much. Unless of course you're a nut who puts 25-50% of his portfolio in a single stock.

https://stocknews.com/news/adbe-fb-m...-for-the-rest/

[BobNSuzy]

Another trigger that has been in the cards for Adobe:

https://youtu.be/saqAYgWanwg

I was not aware of them (ab) using this potentiality before now so strong, but thought of it more as a backup plan. But this is a massive upside to the stock if they get it through!

The only downside is how this will hamper development of AI as a whole, in all of the world. But for Adobe shareholders it could mean access to alot of programming talents too! And could jettison them to be the next trillion dollar company for sure. But only if this goes through.

Unfortunately, I got the idea that I would trade it and sold. I've missed most of the recent run up. I watched the video and I am kicking myself. I have another stock I am kicking myself for selling also.

[Escape Artist]

Maybe we could compete about size or to fuck a girl, but she has to be attractive image.

Seems like a lot of caring about what guys in brothels say for someone who claims to not care about guys in brothels.

[Pistons]

I bought on the 20th. I am down a little but my plan is to buy more if it drops. I was glad to see it go up on Friday when most of the other stocks were down.

Another trigger that has been in the cards for Adobe:

https://youtu.be/saqAYgWanwg

I was not aware of them (ab) using this potentiality before now so strong, but thought of it more as a backup plan. But this is a massive upside to the stock if they get it through!

The only downside is how this will hamper development of AI as a whole, in all of the world. But for Adobe shareholders it could mean access to alot of programming talents too! And could jettison them to be the next trillion dollar company for sure. But only if this goes through.

[Sirioja]

Jesus. The only endurance and stamina comes from his mouth.

Maybe we could compete about size or to fuck a girl, but she has to be attractive image.

[Escape Artist]

Jesus. The only endurance and stamina comes from his mouth.

[Sirioja]

A 55+ year old guy who doesn't train, claims on a non-cycling forum that he is better than one third of the pro peloton. Why would anybody in their right mind want to meet him?

I wrote when I discovered la Loze on 2020 , when I climbed Cormet Roselend earlier on day, I was faster alone with my manual gears bicycle than lazy too heavy Sagan pushed by grupetto, and I was faster on 2021 and look forward on this Summer, when so expensive paid Sagan is too heavy to be able to climb and hate legends I love to climb. In Mortirolo or Zoncolan, when at least I m for real on the steep and I see how Italians climb curving, when I love to go straight facing the steepest, even when body and head are burning. On so steep, climbing is cardio and weight is ennemy. I wait if somebody want to climb with me, for pleasure and passion.

[PaulInZurich]

Enough with the bicycle talk. Let's see some bicycle action! Sirioja and anyone here arguing who wants to race him!

A 55+ year old guy who doesn't train, claims on a non-cycling forum that he is better than one third of the pro peloton. Why would anybody in their right mind want to meet him?

[Sirioja]

If you do that, then I'll race any of you afterwards in downhill with skis and a gopro.

We can also free ride if You want. Look corridors on Mont Gelé Verbier side, not Tortin face, or Mont Fort below lift, not bumpy slope. Best is la Grave la Meije above Chancel lake corridors where You don t see below when You start, so You have to be ready to fly if You are not able to pass ski through rocks, You have to be ready to die there, when these spots are called fall then die. Good point for me, I m not afraid to die, so I go yearly, when I know I m waited.

[Pistons]

If you do that, then I'll race any of you afterwards in downhill with skis and a gopro.

[Pistons]

Enough with the bicycle talk. Let's see some bicycle action! Sirioja and anyone here arguing who wants to race him! Streamed live on YouTube!

This is 2023 guys. Not 2003.

[Sirioja]

I just like to call out bullshitters. It was so funny that after you bragged for so long, the one time you said your time on a known climb it turned out it was below average for 55+ on Strava.

Come with me to climb Ovaro Zoncolan, much more difficult than Croix de Fer / Glandon, telegraphe Galibier and Alp Huez, waiting for you. You read internet, I see reality on the field.

[PaulInZurich]

I just like to call out bullshitters. It was so funny that after you bragged for so long, the one time you said your time on a known climb it turned out it was below average for 55+ on Strava.

[Sirioja]

I have a bike with electronic shifting, NOT an ebike. Pretty much all recent road bikes except the most cheap ones have that. Certainly over EUR 2. 5 k they have electronic shifting. The advantage is that once set up, shifting never needs to be adjusted. I didn't have to service anything shifting related for 8 years. It doesn't help with pedalling, it's just something useful for somebody who does more than 500 km per year. Of course, if you do only 500 km per year, then even a bike with a bread basket in front and no gears is enough.

I'll tell you one more time why I have no interest to climb with you. I just don't care about you. Based on what you write, it is clear to me that you make a lot of things up. I don't need any confirmation for that.

But You read all of me and even on other forum where I was before here. What I call kind of obsessed but You are not the only one. I don t need electric gears when I know truth is strength and ability to resist to pain, on the field, on very steep, and I know You would not be able to climb with me, even with your electric gears which help, when I invite all here who want to come with me on my Summer climbing tour, climbing every day only legends, many above 2500 m high, except under cold rain. I look forward for my great holidays like every Summer since 2003.