Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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04-13-21 22:22 #4464
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by BigBuddy69 [View Original Post]
These death rates in vaccinated people do not supersede the background death rates of the target population (control group).
As for CSVT (cerebral blood clots), we've seen that the pauses in AZ and now JJ vaccines occurred when the incidence was well below the background incidence.
Background of CSVT is 4 per million; meanwhile, the AZ saw less than 0. 5 per million while the JnJ reports less than 1 per million. (Other clots seen with AZ occur at 2 per millions).
For further perspective, the newest generation of birth control pills that have been used for over a decade now sees an incidence of 27 cases per million within 2 weeks of use.
Even before weighing the risk / reward of these vaccines against COVID, we can do simple arithmetic and conclude that 0. 5 and 1 are less than 4 and 27. Duh.
Sources:
Birth control and Background CSVT incidence:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...T4_HBiCMQlQZxo
JnJ CSVT incidence:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...-clot-concerns
AZ CSVT incidence:
https://www.dw.com/en/astrazeneca-wh...sis/a-56901525
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04-13-21 21:34 #4463
Posts: 6662There are plenty of literature regarding Heparin induced thrombocytopenia and it's link to blood plate factor 4. All wannabe sheep doctors should have been programmed to know this. As they are only tools.
Now the vaccines doesn't have heparin. But when you see the same results, chances are that similar bindings have occurred on one or more plate factors due to the vaccine.
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04-13-21 21:30 #4462
Posts: 22043Our poor Metz district which was under UK mutant since months and now 30% new cases are south African, when Brazilian now entered in EU with 20% cases in Portugal, but also in Spain, Italy, NL, Belgium and France, so high killer should spread, when already problems about Johnson when not arrived yet, and AZ not many want. 2021 may be complicated for EU, when 4000 daily deaths in Brazil and young and who already had original but repeated with Brazilian.
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04-13-21 21:29 #4461
Posts: 6662You basically now show to the world that you know nothing about the blood plate factors.
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04-13-21 21:28 #4460
Posts: 1138Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
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04-13-21 21:27 #4459
Posts: 2207Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
Covid mortality rate in France: 100,000 deaths for 5 M confirmed cases. That makes around 1/50. Guess which one is the biggest ratio?
Hypothesis (big one) : only one case out of 4 is confirmed because the others one are asymptomatic, are not tested, whatever.
That makes 1/200.
New hypothesis: every French got the virus. 100,000/70 M, that makes 1/700. Still way bigger than 1/500,000.
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04-13-21 21:27 #4458
Posts: 2344Interesting article regarding Manaus, Brazil and herd immunity:
Article states that a seroprevalence study of SARS-Cov2 antibodies in blood donors from Manaus estimated a 76% infection rate by October 2020. That's well over the herd immunity threshold and, if not, should at least have mitigated the recent surge. Perhaps of further concern, the recent surge was not correlated with the Brazilian P1 variant. The recent surge was mostly due to that same old China-Virus, Kung-Flu strain, suggesting reinfection with the same strain after achieving "natural immunity. "
This suggests that either:
1. Estimates of prior infections using blood donor antibody prevalence was wrong.
2. Natural antibody production wanes after several months.
3. There is another strain that has not been identified which is not affected by the body's natural immune response.
In the beginning of this whole pandemic, I also tilted toward the possibility of shooting for herd immunity so the effects on the economy and personal life could be avoided. This data coming out of Brazil now casts more doubt on the herd immunity position. As such, especially if this trend is observed elsewhere, say Mexico or Colombia, it would suggest a more imperative case that vaccines, made to be more specific in recognizing parts of the virus that are less prone to frequent mutation, are the most direct way to eliminate / reduce the COVID threat.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext
*Addendum: Article also mentioned that analysis of blood donations in Peru resulted in an estimated 70% infection rate prior to the Christmas surge. That's 2 regions where the estimated 67% herd immunity threshold failed to produce acceptable results.
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04-13-21 21:22 #4457
Posts: 6662Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
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04-13-21 20:47 #4456
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
Or are you saying that you were innocent altogether, not ever speeding on Swiss highways and have never been "flashed" by a traffic control device?
The latter would not excuse the first offense by the Swiss authorities but would help your audience here formulate a better understanding of your gripe.
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04-13-21 20:41 #4455
Posts: 2207Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
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04-13-21 20:33 #4454
Posts: 22043Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
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04-13-21 17:40 #4453
Posts: 6662Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...=1618332576369
But uneducated wannabes refuse to listen to reason. Much like Bolsonaro. So indeed, when you do get vaccine induced thrombocytopenia yourself, it was your doing.
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04-13-21 17:31 #4452
Posts: 6662Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
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04-13-21 16:49 #4451
Posts: 2344T-cells binding to platelets do not cause blood clots.
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04-13-21 16:15 #4450
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]