Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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04-14-21 03:36 #4476
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Clodius1 [View Original Post]
But once you shed the pop culture influences, the mRNA vaccines are superior in every way except for the logistics of delivery (cold storage, 2-dose schedule).
They are deliberate and specific (encodes for specific viral proteins, no more, no less). They are delivered in innate lipid particles as opposed to immunogenic vectors required with traditional vaccines. That means they infuse to cells and deliver the "package" without the need for viral / bacterial vectors that illicit non-specific immunogenic responses. They are easily altered for future adjustments as antigenicity shifts in the virus.
The comparisons of the two technologies is like comparing MP3's versus tape cassettes. Microsoft Word versus Typewriters.
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04-14-21 03:23 #4475
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus [View Original Post]
But since we are all entitled to one belief or two without proof, UFO's are definitely possible.
Well, at least aliens are. Human sized spaceships may not be needed for interstellar travel.
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04-14-21 03:02 #4474
Posts: 6681Originally Posted by Mursenary [View Original Post]
In 2.7% of the test subjects who received the AZ vaccine, the amount of T-cells in their blood broke the chart. They couldn't even measure the amount!
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04-14-21 02:59 #4473
Posts: 6681Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus [View Original Post]
Take it from the real doctor here on the forum! No need for scam-ridden mafia products at the pharmacy.
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04-14-21 02:47 #4472
Posts: 6681HammerTime: Did you read this?
80% of the people in Sicily are turning down the vaccine from AZ!
https://www.businessinsider.com/sici...sitancy-2021-4
1000 - 0.
To us anti-vaxxers and the Sicilian mafia against the wannabe know-nothing corrupt death spawns on this forum!
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04-14-21 02:02 #4471
Posts: 2344Hematology 201 - sophomore year.
T cell binding to platelets do not cause platelets to form blood clots, no matter where they bind. By definition, platelets aggregates are not even actual blood clots. Instead, they promote the formation of thrombin clots, actual blood clots.
Thrombotic thrombocytopenia on the other hand, is a condition in which platelet levels become depleted but immune complexes formed in part by platelet granules and various molecules are bound by antibodies that recruit thrombin, leading to thrombosis, especially in arteries. What we see in CSVT are venous blood clots.
T cells do not tell tell platelets what to do, rather platelets can activate T cells to perform various tasks of the immune system.
I searched Up-to-Date, the premiere source of established medical knowledge in the United States, and no where does the literature have any mention of T-cell induced thrombosis in relation to platelets. In every direct instance, T cells play a role in the degradation of blood clots, not their formation.
Autoimmune thrombotic thrombocytopenia however can result in platelets initiating a sequence of events that leads to blood clots but they are facilitated by antibodies which are produced by B_cells. The function of T cells in this instance, is at best, to facilitate some secondary cell-cell communication. I'm too far from undergrad to remember those details. But for that to occur, both B_cells and T cells must develop an autoimmune disorder. Odd thing is that these blood clots are not implicated in the mRNA vaccines. Another conspiracy myth.
As such, if someone was to say that aberrant autoimmune B_cell activation leads to immune complex formation with platelet granules leading to thrombosis, they would be correct. Insisting on T-cells binding to sites on platelets causing clot formation, well that shows a lack of understanding likely due to a lack of fundamental, life-science foundation. Throw in some unbelievably mis-found arrogance too.
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04-14-21 01:38 #4470
Posts: 250Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]
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04-14-21 01:20 #4469
Posts: 539Lies and damned statistics and birth control.
Mursenary points to birth control ratios to COVID. I could go further and attribute car accidents, or anything. When you look at obese Americans with existing cardiovascular issues and lining up at the supermarket pharmacy to cure the diseases they self-inflicted lining up with a shopping cart of shit food in the same supermarket not that long before. The whole thing is pandering to population potential hysteria the elites think of as mostly irrational idiots, and sadly, they are right. They cannot explain anything in life has risks in case the anti-vaxxers jump onboard. You would be amazed how many people believe in UFOs, made up gods and various delusions. Most lack critical thinking too. Much of the stuff about vaccines is straight up mental. There is a market for the crazy, mysticism and etc. Eyeballs = advertising $. Keep 'em coming back is the plan of casinos, facebook and so on that spend a lot of money on behavioral science for this very effect.
Luckily I have my gypsy tears as a fool proof prophylactic, including STDs and <insert -ism. Works better than garlic.
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04-14-21 00:44 #4468
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
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04-14-21 00:35 #4467
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Gino02 [View Original Post]
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04-14-21 00:29 #4466
Posts: 2344This study was a topic of my hospital's bi-weekly critical care meeting. A study produced by clinicians in Oslo examining the 5 cases of CSVT treated at their hospital coined the term, Vaccine-induced thrombocytopenia. It mimics a condition called heparin-induced thrombocytopenia (HIT) where people have autoimmune reactions once given the anticoagulation medication, heparin. The cases were unfortunate and understandably caused concerns which remain in Scandinavian countries. It was odd to us that with so few people vaccinated with AZ in Norway (130 K), why was there a higher prevalence of CSVT compared to any other nation? Is there a genetic element? An interaction with other medications?
One major criticism was how they arrived at their conclusion. As mentioned, they base their conclusions on what we know about HIT. As such, they tested for the same antibodies produced by an autoimmune reaction to heparin. What was odd, and why others in the medical community have criticized their methodology, was that while they correctly stated that the patients had no prior exposure to heparin, their report revealed that they measured the antibody levels only AFTER administering low molecular weight heparin.
Two things:
1. In the very litigious practice of medicine in the United States and UK, heparin would be cautiously used in those patients due to the possibility of exacerbating the pathophysiology of the condition.
2. They measured the antibodies usually formed in HIT after administering a low-molecular weight heparin to the patients.
This is why studies are peer reviewed. It is not just results that drive progress, background and methodology matters just as much.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104882
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04-14-21 00:26 #4465
Posts: 1138France suspends all Brazil flights over Covid-19 variant fears.
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-variant-fears
Is this a racist action?
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04-13-21 22:22 #4464
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by BigBuddy69 [View Original Post]
These death rates in vaccinated people do not supersede the background death rates of the target population (control group).
As for CSVT (cerebral blood clots), we've seen that the pauses in AZ and now JJ vaccines occurred when the incidence was well below the background incidence.
Background of CSVT is 4 per million; meanwhile, the AZ saw less than 0. 5 per million while the JnJ reports less than 1 per million. (Other clots seen with AZ occur at 2 per millions).
For further perspective, the newest generation of birth control pills that have been used for over a decade now sees an incidence of 27 cases per million within 2 weeks of use.
Even before weighing the risk / reward of these vaccines against COVID, we can do simple arithmetic and conclude that 0. 5 and 1 are less than 4 and 27. Duh.
Sources:
Birth control and Background CSVT incidence:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...T4_HBiCMQlQZxo
JnJ CSVT incidence:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...-clot-concerns
AZ CSVT incidence:
https://www.dw.com/en/astrazeneca-wh...sis/a-56901525
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04-13-21 21:34 #4463
Posts: 6681There are plenty of literature regarding Heparin induced thrombocytopenia and it's link to blood plate factor 4. All wannabe sheep doctors should have been programmed to know this. As they are only tools.
Now the vaccines doesn't have heparin. But when you see the same results, chances are that similar bindings have occurred on one or more plate factors due to the vaccine.
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04-13-21 21:30 #4462
Posts: 22078Our poor Metz district which was under UK mutant since months and now 30% new cases are south African, when Brazilian now entered in EU with 20% cases in Portugal, but also in Spain, Italy, NL, Belgium and France, so high killer should spread, when already problems about Johnson when not arrived yet, and AZ not many want. 2021 may be complicated for EU, when 4000 daily deaths in Brazil and young and who already had original but repeated with Brazilian.