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  1. #4334
    Quote Originally Posted by Canary  [View Original Post]
    The nasty old UK got their act together & signed vaccine contracts early then paid a high rate for them. The EU in their typical bureaucratic way dithered, argued for a cheaper price and now are paying the consequences for a delayed supply. It's pathetic of you & others to blame the UK for the inadequacies of the EU machine.

    As much as I greatly dislike Johnson's government and the Brexit fall out they did at least get something right in procuring the vaccine contracts quickly & efficiency as opposed to the EU.

    So stop blaming the UK and start looking at Ursula von der Leyen and her cronies.

    I want Europe to sort itself out so that I can enjoy the delights of FKK Clubs again!

    And don't forget Countries don't make the vaccine & sell it but private companies do. It's up to the Countries to secure decent contracts with those Companies which makes it irrelevant whether the vaccine is made in the UK or EU.
    Nothing about UK people we welcome in France, but about politics when Johnson fucked EU, not sending back, when UK received a lot. But I m happy now less deaths in UK when European record with 126 000 . But this won't help for FKK reopening, when Bavarian who could be after Angela, think to buy sputnik, even not allowed by EU, when he closed border with cousin Tirol under UK mutant. Not sure he will rush to reopen brothels, even Saarland is starting to reopen a bit, but not brothels.

  2. #4333
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Why didn't you sue them after all that? There is the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg. Why did you keep going to Switzerland after that, after you "disappeared like if I was in China" ?

    It's a story you tell to prostitutes to try to impress them. It's a fairy tale like The Emperor's New Clothes. Here is another thing you got wrong, they don't look at you with round eyes. Instead they roll their eyes, thinking how pathetic, here comes another one of those special people.

    Why didn't you sue them after all that? There is the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg. Why did you keep going to Switzerland after that after you "disappeared like if I was in China" ?
    But, do Switzerland belong to EU or respect EU laws? When I just try to impress girls with my manners in bed, I didn't say my performances, but some WGs also experienced Swiss administration, some being scared. When I spent about 2 months per year, now I go only sometimes for brothels and one day for Verbier. I didn't even buy autobahn vignette on this year, saving 40 CHF.

  3. #4332
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    You are a bit late to the party. I provided earlier links to a case that was litigated right up to federal court in Switzerland and the underlying law.

    Possession of radar detector is a separate offence from speeding, so no double jeopardy.

    I don't believe that they didn't speak to him in French. Every Swiss learns at minimum 2 foreign languages starting with primary school. I don't believe in general what he is saying because so many of his posts on other topics that can be verified were all false. Like being stronger and fitter than professional athletes with a 5 million EUR salary.

    I definitely believe there are issues with Swiss police, but this BS here is not one of them.

    BTW, any Swiss can initiate a change of the federal constitution. Get 100 000 signatures to support the initiative and there will be a vote on it. Swiss constitution changes all the time.
    Are you telling here, Swiss administration write to French people in French? Which is international law, or ZH or Argau or Basel polizei speak French? When they are not even able to speak English. Where do you really live? Just go to Zurich police prison in city and speak to them in French to experience if they understand. With such practices, if you knew what kind of guy I am, I will never pay my Swiss fines, I prefer to fight with them, but now it will be more complicated for them with me. If you knew a bit about technique, you would know coyote is not detector, but GPS like waze, and professional racers climb Zoncolan or Mortirolo and pretty sure for Loze on 32 behind, not on 11 nor even 24, and they don't like to climb them, when I love for my holidays, every year. Will wait for you and fat bald French on your carbon climbing before you. I wish at least you were able to understand this is nothing about Swiss people, when had many Swiss friends since I was a child and a real sunshine girlfriend who lived in Neuchatel and spoke French.

  4. #4331
    South African version only. 10 people contaminated. Both workers and elderly.

  5. #4330
    At another home for the elderly in norway, even more people have gotten the covid virus, and one person just died.

    They were all fully vaccinated.

  6. #4329
    https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...deaths-tracker

    Enjoy the numbers. Ofcourse India and sub-saharan Africa except South Africa is not even counted here.

    But take a look at Russia or Egypt for example.

    It adds up quite fast!

  7. #4328
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Here's the kicker, Africa and India officially has a combined death count of 280 K. Even if you hypothetically are ridiculously generous and give him that those numbers are off my and entire magnitude of 10 x, resulting in 2.8 million hypothetical covid deaths (they're not) but let's just pretend. Let's say that got up to 5 million by the end of the year. That still barely makes a dent into reaching 30 million deaths by the end of 2021. There would literally have to be 10's of millions of unaccounted deaths in the western world for that to be remotely possible.
    1. I said sub-Saharan Africa. Not Africa.

    2. South-Africa seems to count about a third. But other nations maybe just 1-3%. In Tanzania the president there still claims the entire covid thing is a hoax.

    3. You forgot about India.

    4. You make the assumption that deaths will suddenly fall in all the rest of the world.

    5. Now we are at 2.9 million counted deaths. It goes up quite fast.

  8. #4327
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Of all of the things: social upheaval, financial unpredictability, mental health, sickness, death, permanent changes to social dynamics, etc, and the thing that most worries you is getting a jab every year?
    You really are a spawn of Satan are you?

    3 words: Vaccine side effects!

  9. #4326
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    And with a mountain bike cassette.
    Lucky that Shimano makes a 10-51 MTB casette https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/produ...-M9100-12.html.

  10. #4325

    Here we go again.

    Human rights reports from two different organizations which you wouldn't expect that they coordinate.

    Human rights reports from Amnesty International.

    Switzerland: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...t-switzerland/.

    France: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...report-france/.

    China: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries.../report-china/.

    Human rights report from US State Department.

    Switzerland: https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-c...s/switzerland/.

    France: https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-c...ctices/france/.

    China: https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-c...actices/china/.

    Have a read and see if you can spot the differences.

    While there are certainly some issues, anybody who is claiming that _any_ country in Western Europe is at the level of China is a troll or brain washed.

    Missing in the reports about Switzerland is the section where they speak about random drivers being thrown in jail for no cause and "robbered".

    BTW, the concept of jail time because of debt towards the state exists in France too. Look up "contrainte judiciare". https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes...220/2021-04-08 Granted, the French are less trigger happy, it seems to kick in at 2000 EUR and up.

    Next time you try not paying your fines, try to get sent to the Frauenfeld prison on the way to Westside. Here is the case of a satisfied customer: https://www.frauenfelder-nachrichten...nast-00138581/.

  11. #4324
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    7 elderly fully vaccinated patients plus 5 fully vaccinated health personell at a home for the elderly in Norway now had positive covid tests on the Brazilian and SA covid mutations. 50/50 split It seems between the 2 mutations. The ridiculous part of the story is that everyone seems to blame it on the vaccines 'only' giving 90% or 95% immunity! Well, there are only 64 spots on the entire center plus workers!

    As was to be expected.

    So your vaccine is quite useless.
    The vaccine is not a condom, vaccinated people can still come into contact with the virus but they don't develop the disease. So, they may as well test positive, but they will not develop the disease. When they say a vaccine is 90% effective, it does not mean that in the 10% of cases it doesn't even work. In that 10% of cases, people may experience some symptoms, if they come into contact with the virus, but not the serious disease that would require hospitalization.

  12. #4323
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    You forgot to add, faster than Peter Sagan.
    And with a mountain bike cassette.

  13. #4322
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    OK, so you have no sources, you just pulled something out of your back pocket.

    BTW, I am not Swiss, if that is what you meant by "Swizz".
    Here's the kicker, Africa and India officially has a combined death count of 280 K. Even if you hypothetically are ridiculously generous and give him that those numbers are off my and entire magnitude of 10 x, resulting in 2.8 million hypothetical covid deaths (they're not) but let's just pretend. Let's say that got up to 5 million by the end of the year. That still barely makes a dent into reaching 30 million deaths by the end of 2021. There would literally have to be 10's of millions of unaccounted deaths in the western world for that to be remotely possible.

  14. #4321
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    My real worry is we are entering into a vaccine subscription model like a new smartphone every year / car or operating system that will dictate participation in border crossings etc. The economic dislocation is bad enough.
    Of all of the things: social upheaval, financial unpredictability, mental health, sickness, death, permanent changes to social dynamics, etc, and the thing that most worries you is getting a jab every year?

  15. #4320
    7 elderly fully vaccinated patients plus 5 fully vaccinated health personell at a home for the elderly in Norway now had positive covid tests on the Brazilian and SA covid mutations. 50/50 split It seems between the 2 mutations. The ridiculous part of the story is that everyone seems to blame it on the vaccines 'only' giving 90% or 95% immunity! Well, there are only 64 spots on the entire center plus workers!

    As was to be expected.

    So your vaccine is quite useless.

    I was just looking at the mutation rates on John Hopkins website yesterday and it took only 11 months for a strain of covid to reach 34 mutations in the spike protein alone! That was a record mutating speed however. The average is only about 15 mutations on the spike in 12 months. But it is picking up pace in places like India and Africa now as well. Which will counteract the vaccination pace.

    Also, as soon you get vaccinated people, the only thing that will happen is that virus strains not affected by the vaccine will take over fully. It will seem like it protects to some degree, but we are really just talking about different curves for different mutation strains.

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