Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[PaulInZurich]

And with a mountain bike cassette.

Lucky that Shimano makes a 10-51 MTB casette https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/produ...-M9100-12.html.

[PaulInZurich]

Human rights reports from two different organizations which you wouldn't expect that they coordinate.

Human rights reports from Amnesty International.

Switzerland: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...t-switzerland/.

France: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...report-france/.

China: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries.../report-china/.

Human rights report from US State Department.

Switzerland: https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-c...s/switzerland/.

France: https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-c...ctices/france/.

China: https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-c...actices/china/.

Have a read and see if you can spot the differences.

While there are certainly some issues, anybody who is claiming that _any_ country in Western Europe is at the level of China is a troll or brain washed.

Missing in the reports about Switzerland is the section where they speak about random drivers being thrown in jail for no cause and "robbered".

BTW, the concept of jail time because of debt towards the state exists in France too. Look up "contrainte judiciare". https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes...220/2021-04-08 Granted, the French are less trigger happy, it seems to kick in at 2000 EUR and up.

Next time you try not paying your fines, try to get sent to the Frauenfeld prison on the way to Westside. Here is the case of a satisfied customer: https://www.frauenfelder-nachrichten...nast-00138581/.

[Rocky V]

7 elderly fully vaccinated patients plus 5 fully vaccinated health personell at a home for the elderly in Norway now had positive covid tests on the Brazilian and SA covid mutations. 50/50 split It seems between the 2 mutations. The ridiculous part of the story is that everyone seems to blame it on the vaccines 'only' giving 90% or 95% immunity! Well, there are only 64 spots on the entire center plus workers!

As was to be expected.

So your vaccine is quite useless.

The vaccine is not a condom, vaccinated people can still come into contact with the virus but they don't develop the disease. So, they may as well test positive, but they will not develop the disease. When they say a vaccine is 90% effective, it does not mean that in the 10% of cases it doesn't even work. In that 10% of cases, people may experience some symptoms, if they come into contact with the virus, but not the serious disease that would require hospitalization.

[BigBuddy69]

You forgot to add, faster than Peter Sagan.

And with a mountain bike cassette.

[Mursenary]

OK, so you have no sources, you just pulled something out of your back pocket.

BTW, I am not Swiss, if that is what you meant by "Swizz".

Here's the kicker, Africa and India officially has a combined death count of 280 K. Even if you hypothetically are ridiculously generous and give him that those numbers are off my and entire magnitude of 10 x, resulting in 2.8 million hypothetical covid deaths (they're not) but let's just pretend. Let's say that got up to 5 million by the end of the year. That still barely makes a dent into reaching 30 million deaths by the end of 2021. There would literally have to be 10's of millions of unaccounted deaths in the western world for that to be remotely possible.

[Mursenary]

My real worry is we are entering into a vaccine subscription model like a new smartphone every year / car or operating system that will dictate participation in border crossings etc. The economic dislocation is bad enough.

Of all of the things: social upheaval, financial unpredictability, mental health, sickness, death, permanent changes to social dynamics, etc, and the thing that most worries you is getting a jab every year?

[Pistons]

7 elderly fully vaccinated patients plus 5 fully vaccinated health personell at a home for the elderly in Norway now had positive covid tests on the Brazilian and SA covid mutations. 50/50 split It seems between the 2 mutations. The ridiculous part of the story is that everyone seems to blame it on the vaccines 'only' giving 90% or 95% immunity! Well, there are only 64 spots on the entire center plus workers!

As was to be expected.

So your vaccine is quite useless.

I was just looking at the mutation rates on John Hopkins website yesterday and it took only 11 months for a strain of covid to reach 34 mutations in the spike protein alone! That was a record mutating speed however. The average is only about 15 mutations on the spike in 12 months. But it is picking up pace in places like India and Africa now as well. Which will counteract the vaccination pace.

Also, as soon you get vaccinated people, the only thing that will happen is that virus strains not affected by the vaccine will take over fully. It will seem like it protects to some degree, but we are really just talking about different curves for different mutation strains.

[Sirioja]

I have to agree with Sirioja here. Here the Swiss government attempted to find a person without a hearing to determine the validity of the fine. Moreover, the owner of the car is not responsible if the owner of the car was not properly served with a violation and moreover it violates due process to punish a person who was not the person who committed the infraction. The underlying statute should be challenged as violating the Swiss constitution and hopefully it can be struck down and Switzerland forced to hold hearings and provide appeals prior to fining anyone. The confiscation of the radar detector also bring up a double jeopardy defense since confiscation amounts to a de facto fine at least the value of the radar detector and therefore to add an additional punishment basically is unlawful since the driver is punished twice for the same offense. Hopefully the Swiss constitution has a double jeopardy prohibition in it. Also they need to provide interpreters at all court hearings for people who don't speak the language of that canton.

Moreover if they are imprisoning a person they need to provide an appointed attorney free of charge.

They just don't respect international laws, nor human rights, they don't let you call anybody, so you just disappear, nobody know what happened to you, your relatives or at work can think You are dead when You can t answer to messages, even they have no proof about your person, but their technique being to put pressure on You to make You pay and to try to find more to make you pay more, when of course they would have a problem with a lawyer, when they have no proof, to put in jail. But when You treat me like a criminal, then we can play, I'm used to pressure. Shameful robbers when only about few kilometers overspeed, only on autobahns and under 120, when I need to brake to drive so slowly, as told UK topgear show: driving in Switzerland lead to jail. My tip about Germany since 2020 , overspeed in towns or works zones can now be a bigger problem when more than 20 km / h overspeed, when overspeed on autobahns are not so big problem and don t lead to jail, even when 100 km / h overspeed. I just laugh when I know guys in Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mac Laren, they must block sequential gears box on first, in Switzerland, good game being to put on M1 to close to maximum engine limit, then to put S1 and kickdown, then running beyond quattro grip, even on full dry, even with super soft tires, others seeming stopped. Of course, 0 alcohol or drug for me, only adrenaline.

[Canary]

I haven't had any human contact in a year, so I'm itching to break out.

Oase and Sharks are some of my favorites places, but they're not open yet, so they're out of the question.

Montreal would be my second choice but the border from the USA Is not yet open.

Friends tell me that Tijuana is open but dead.

So where would you go?

Rio? Cases are high in Brazil and Bolsonaro seems like a nut job.

Switzerland? I like the Globe FKK set-up but it's pretty pricey.

Ukraine? Colombia? United Kingdom?

Count the UK out for now. Although infections / deaths are extremely low now coming into the country wouldn't be worth it.

Travel from "red" countries to the UK (USA is currently a red country) would involve a ten day quarantine plus paying over £1,700 for a government designated hotel to quarantine in.

However May 17th things will change. But to what extent we don't know other than there will be a few "green" countries which won't involve quarantine when arriving in the UK.

[Rocky V]

The nasty old UK got their act together & signed vaccine contracts early then paid a high rate for them. The EU in their typical bureaucratic way dithered, argued for a cheaper price and now are paying the consequences for a delayed supply. It's pathetic of you & others to blame the UK for the inadequacies of the EU machine.

As much as I greatly dislike Johnson's government and the Brexit fall out they did at least get something right in procuring the vaccine contracts quickly & efficiency as opposed to the EU.

So stop blaming the UK and start looking at Ursula von der Leyen and her cronies.

I want Europe to sort itself out so that I can enjoy the delights of FKK Clubs again!

And don't forget Countries don't make the vaccine & sell it but private companies do. It's up to the Countries to secure decent contracts with those Companies which makes it irrelevant whether the vaccine is made in the UK or EU.

US has a complete ban on vaccine exports, so countries do have power on the production of vaccines in their territory. The Moderna vaccine that is about to be delivered to UK comes from production plants in France, Switzerland and Spain. EU has exported around 80 million doses, US none, UK none. It has little to do to with the price paid and early contracts. Companies committed to make 'every effort' to honour the contracts although they knew all along they could never get anywhere close to the volumes they agreed to provide. In fact, now they are asking for permission to open new production plants and help from other pharma companies.

[Sirioja]

I haven't had any human contact in a year, so I'm itching to break out.

Oase and Sharks are some of my favorites places, but they're not open yet, so they're out of the question.

Montreal would be my second choice but the border from the USA Is not yet open.

Friends tell me that Tijuana is open but dead.

So where would you go?

Rio? Cases are high in Brazil and Bolsonaro seems like a nut job.

Switzerland? I like the Globe FKK set-up but it's pretty pricey.

Ukraine? Colombia? United Kingdom?

If You can enter Switzerland, Cleo and Zeus are for 120 € 129 CHF for entry with drinks and wellness and 30 mn with a girl. Costa del Sol is also open for 80/30 or 150/60.

[PaulInZurich]

... I trained hard to resist to pressure, even when they threatened me to put me in small room with no window when I insulted them and kicked in the door...

LOL, please do tell about your hard training. Was it RTI training with Commando Jaubert? De Montfort? CPA 10 ? DGSE?

[PaulInZurich]

... in Gran San Bernardino on August, I will be there and I m sure I will be able to climb, on my French alloy bicycle which climbed all the steepest since few years.

You forgot to add, faster than Peter Sagan.

[PaulInZurich]

When I tell my story to German girls working in Switzerland, they look at me with round eyes..

Why didn't you sue them after all that? There is the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg. Why did you keep going to Switzerland after that, after you "disappeared like if I was in China" ?

It's a story you tell to prostitutes to try to impress them. It's a fairy tale like The Emperor's New Clothes. Here is another thing you got wrong, they don't look at you with round eyes. Instead they roll their eyes, thinking how pathetic, here comes another one of those special people.

Why didn't you sue them after all that? There is the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg. Why did you keep going to Switzerland after that after you "disappeared like if I was in China" ?

[PaulInZurich]

I have to agree with Sirioja here. Here the Swiss government attempted to find a person without a hearing to determine the validity of the fine. Moreover, the owner of the car is not responsible if the owner of the car was not properly served with a violation and moreover it violates due process to punish a person who was not the person who committed the infraction. The underlying statute should be challenged as violating the Swiss constitution and hopefully it can be struck down and Switzerland forced to hold hearings and provide appeals prior to fining anyone. The confiscation of the radar detector also bring up a double jeopardy defense since confiscation amounts to a de facto fine at least the value of the radar detector and therefore to add an additional punishment basically is unlawful since the driver is punished twice for the same offense. Hopefully the Swiss constitution has a double jeopardy prohibition in it. Also they need to provide interpreters at all court hearings for people who don't speak the language of that canton.

Moreover if they are imprisoning a person they need to provide an appointed attorney free of charge.

You are a bit late to the party. I provided earlier links to a case that was litigated right up to federal court in Switzerland and the underlying law.

Possession of radar detector is a separate offence from speeding, so no double jeopardy.

I don't believe that they didn't speak to him in French. Every Swiss learns at minimum 2 foreign languages starting with primary school. I don't believe in general what he is saying because so many of his posts on other topics that can be verified were all false. Like being stronger and fitter than professional athletes with a 5 million EUR salary.

I definitely believe there are issues with Swiss police, but this BS here is not one of them.

BTW, any Swiss can initiate a change of the federal constitution. Get 100 000 signatures to support the initiative and there will be a vote on it. Swiss constitution changes all the time.