Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[HammerTime96]

India has a new virus mutant now with both the L452 R (totally new) and E484 Q (also seen in a USA version). Both on the spike protein making vaccines less effective.

While the brutish 'Kent's mutation of covid in Europe now also has gained the E484 K mutation previously seen in SA and Brazil. Which makes it better at evading vaccines.

And the Brazil Manuaus version is just continuing to mutate wildly.

By the time we get everyone vaxxed, all these new mutations will make the first round of vaccines 50% useless. Maybe people won't die as much, but it will continue spreading and mutating. And people will need additional shots in the arm (or head), further increasing the risk of vaccine damage by autoimmune diseases.

Exactly! We're on a road to nowhere, and the lockdowns, face masks and social distancing (all 'invented' by the CCP by the way) have probably prevented herd immunity.

This is what leading vaccine experts like Geert vanden Bossche (developed many vaccines and worked for big pharmaceutical companies and GAVI, Global Vaccine Alliance) have already predicted, but our CCP Nursenary probably 'knows' better. / sarc.

Here is a real vaccine expert, Geert vanden Bossche, not some anonymous PLA Unit 61398 troll artist pretending to be a doctor;.

https://youtu.be/qu8PlB4yQ4k

https://www.bitchute.com/video/BNmUyioaAETO/

[Gino02]

Was watching France24 live news after a long time, even this libtard news agency started to sing that lockdowns aren't really working good overall for France and Europe. When will the people of Europe overthrow these libtard governments? Only reasons USA is doing better now with vaccines because of Trump's push for vaccines in less than a year (when all democrats were saying that's impossible), and his America first policies. True he lost the election, arguably by frauds by the Dems, but if he didn't do the fundamental America first things, USA would have been in same deep shit like Europe (Biden is just reaping the seeds planted by Trump). Let's see when Europe wakes up. For example, now that California Governor is facing Recall, everything is opening up there LOL.

[HammerTime96]

LOL, you're just a mentally unstable chink with a yellow micropenis. You're pathetic.

You mean: another ChiCom spreading Covid1984 fake news and part of the CCP psy-ops campaign to destabilize the West and destroy our FKK Freedom?!

[ExpatLover]

India has a new virus mutant now with both the L452 R (totally new) and E484 Q (also seen in a USA version). Both on the spike protein making vaccines less effective.

While the brutish 'Kent's mutation of covid in Europe now also has gained the E484 K mutation previously seen in SA and Brazil. Which makes it better at evading vaccines.

And the Brazil Manuaus version is just continuing to mutate wildly.

By the time we get everyone vaxxed, all these new mutations will make the first round of vaccines 50% useless. Maybe people won't die as much, but it will continue spreading and mutating. And people will need additional shots in the arm (or head), further increasing the risk of vaccine damage by autoimmune diseases.

This is not a discovery, many times I wrote on this forum that the vaccines are a tool like washing the hands, masks. But not the ultimate one, why should they be more efficient that the one against the normal flue? Nobody knows what is the future of this pandemy may be can disappear in 1 or 2 months, may be there for several years and killing 5, 10% or more of the global population.

[Mursenary]

Why don't you stop trolling and put your money where your mouth is?

Let's see about your track record:

March / April to "show first signs of normalcy?" Hahahaha! You amateur!

The sad reality is that, despite your lies, vax-promotion and gaslighting, Germany is still locked down.

FYI in case you don't know how to read a calendar: May starts in less than 30 days. LOL!

https://www.sat1.de/tv/fruehstuecksf...-moeglich-clip

Translation: 'BioNTech founder Ugur Sahin deems lockdown in summer for necessary, in case infection numbers don't decrease.' Those 'infection' numbers will of course not sink with mandatory testing and an Incident Value which is relative to the fixed 100 k inhabitants, instead of the variable number of tests.

Now you and your 'buddies' can continue to pollute this thread with lots of off-topic bullshit in order to cover your fuckups and total lack of understanding. LOL!

P.S. AstraZeneca is so "successful" against mutations that South Arica has stopped vaccinating: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...s-clearly-stop.

So Mursenary, a really 'difficult' question for such an 'expert' like yourself: how long will it take for the South African "mutation" to reach Europe and render the AstraZeneca vaccine completely useless?

Here are the flights between Cape Town / Jo-burg and Frankfurt;.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/lh576

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/lh573

You hear that clock ticking? Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock.

Funny how you take optimism and hope to mean predict. Pretty sure my quote says specifically "hope for May bet on August". Or did the words "wouldn't make international travel plans before May / June" not register when in a desperate blind rage to merely win an argument?

Have we not seen the first signs of normalcy? Did UK and Portugal not begin the first stages of lifting restrictions? The US is basically wide open in at least half of the states. Did you interpret "first signs of normalcy" to mean "completely restored to normal everywhere"?

I have not made any concrete predictions as I do not profess to know how everything will unfold. How long will South Africa variant take to spread and what will be the effect? That's beyond my expertise to predict. But more importantly, do you see cases or deaths going up in South Africa to warrant you bringing that up? Did I miss something?

That's great that you understand that numbers don't decrease when the numerator goes up with denominator staying the same. Hooray for basic grade school math. But have I ever endorsed that incidence threshold be fixed? I don't remember doing so. In fact, I agree that threshold should be reevaluated if we are testing more. You know it is possible give praise to Germany's efforts while also giving specific criticism at the same time right? They surely are doing something right considering that they still maintain one of the better controlled COVID situations despite their compromising geographic location adjacent to 9 or so other nations.

Unlike your consistent positions supporting a predictable anti-everything platform, I am no cheerleader of any one institution.

Vaccines are not perfect but if there are other options, let's hear it. The notion of locking up the old until we reach natural herd immunity would clearly not work as seen in Brazil and Mexico. One year with open societies and counting and nowhere near natural herd immunity in either nation. Meanwhile variants are building and we keep the old locked up. Same argument you have with vaccines.

So, what's your next proposition?

They're mutating in Mexico and Brazil as we wait for your next suggestion. TikTokTikTokTikTok.

[Canary]

UK really made us after Brexit bad killer gift.

What utter baloney!

[Sirioja]

India has a new virus mutant now with both the L452 R (totally new) and E484 Q (also seen in a USA version). Both on the spike protein making vaccines less effective.

While the brutish 'Kent's mutation of covid in Europe now also has gained the E484 K mutation previously seen in SA and Brazil. Which makes it better at evading vaccines.

And the Brazil Manuaus version is just continuing to mutate wildly.

By the time we get everyone vaxxed, all these new mutations will make the first round of vaccines 50% useless. Maybe people won't die as much, but it will continue spreading and mutating. And people will need additional shots in the arm (or head), further increasing the risk of vaccine damage by autoimmune diseases.

Continental Europe situation on 2021 is due to UK mutant, spreading more, killing more and younger people, so we can masturbate for a while about German FKK, when borders are more and more closed, even inside EU. UK really made us after Brexit bad killer gift. Wish heat will make it less strong, when don't seem to work in Brazil.

[HammerTime96]

What was that prediction again? Want to cite that?

Why don't you stop trolling and put your money where your mouth is?

Let's see about your track record:

Yes, we are likely going to have a long winter with late March / April looking to show the first signs of normalcy. I wouldn't make any international travel plans before May, June to be safe.

March / April to "show first signs of normalcy?" Hahahaha! You amateur!

The sad reality is that, despite your lies, vax-promotion and gaslighting, Germany is still locked down.

I agree with your estimates regarding reopening dates. Hoping for May, betting on August.

FYI in case you don't know how to read a calendar: May starts in less than 30 days. LOL!

https://www.sat1.de/tv/fruehstuecksf...-moeglich-clip

Der BioNTech-Gründer Ugur Sahin hält einen Lockdown im Sommer für nötig, sollten die Infektionszahlen nicht sinken.

Translation: 'BioNTech founder Ugur Sahin deems lockdown in summer for necessary, in case infection numbers don't decrease.' Those 'infection' numbers will of course not sink with mandatory testing and an Incident Value which is relative to the fixed 100 k inhabitants, instead of the variable number of tests.

Now you and your 'buddies' can continue to pollute this thread with lots of off-topic bullshit in order to cover your fuckups and total lack of understanding. LOL!

P.S. AstraZeneca is so "successful" against mutations that South Arica has stopped vaccinating: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...s-clearly-stop.

So Mursenary, a really 'difficult' question for such an 'expert' like yourself: how long will it take for the South African "mutation" to reach Europe and render the AstraZeneca vaccine completely useless?

Here are the flights between Cape Town / Jo-burg and Frankfurt;.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/lh576

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/lh573

You hear that clock ticking? Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock.

[Sirioja]

Chongmal: I believe your exact words when we met at Acapulco Velbert was: "if I had been able to become a regular at Oceans and time to know all the girls there, I would have made it my favourite club". Then you went on to argue that as long as it was not a regular club, the management seemed to try and rip you off. Somehow that never happens to me due to my good looks I think. But either way, I am quite sure it was you.

Aren't you mistaking? When he was best supporter for LR and he did really hate when You write something bad about LR or girls there, except maybe Jane when he didn't dare after his bad experience at GT, like if he was interested for business there, when I liked when my followers needed to tell me they didn't like my girls, just made me happy they wasted money following me, I m not Kardashian, I don t need followers doing same like me. He claims about me at YY when I never noticed him anywhere else before meeting at LR, after his story at YY and when under cocaine since she worked at GT and some NL there knew how to play AO with her for cocaine, reason why she left GT where she was busy. When she sent me messages when she returned at home for Christmas 2017, she was only my third choice after part timer wow Elena and so sweet GFE Fabienne ex GT, much more my types at YY. I don't remember when we met on 2018 at LR, but I remember he told he saw me weekly for months with my past regular when I never noticed him, even he was at LR weekly, but I m not interested by guys, but he showed to a bad guy running after girls, the new beauty as he told, on beginning of September 2018. If I was him, I would have enjoyed the new beauty before bad guy arrived, when I really pushed from Paris to be on time for dinner before 10 pm, when she started at 8 pm. I can t understand guys who need to defend clubs they like or girls working there, who have problems when you report your subjective bad experience. When I enjoyed, I write positive, when I m disappointed, I will also write and I don t care if staff are happy or not. This is just my freedom, I don't care about clubs, I'm not to support their business. Of course I also don't care about guys or followers, only girls interest me when I always thought clubs were to meet girls, not to be more interested by other guys. But I can only agree with him, even we have different tastes for looks and girls behavior, about really bad behavior for desk at Oceans, reason why I didn't return often and also pretty sure why was not crowded on my few visits.

[Pistons]

India has a new virus mutant now with both the L452 R (totally new) and E484 Q (also seen in a USA version). Both on the spike protein making vaccines less effective.

While the brutish 'Kent's mutation of covid in Europe now also has gained the E484 K mutation previously seen in SA and Brazil. Which makes it better at evading vaccines.

And the Brazil Manuaus version is just continuing to mutate wildly.

By the time we get everyone vaxxed, all these new mutations will make the first round of vaccines 50% useless. Maybe people won't die as much, but it will continue spreading and mutating. And people will need additional shots in the arm (or head), further increasing the risk of vaccine damage by autoimmune diseases.

[Mursenary]

You're just a pathetic troll, you have to be able to do better than that.

What's that? You want me to fuck you harder next time? You got it!

[Chongmal]

You have already made it clear to everyone that you're just a hypocritical troll unable of handling people having another opinion than you. You're an embarrassment of this forum.

Just to be sure:

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet. This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.

As I recall, I said nothing to you. I stated simply that it was amazing how many virology experts were members of this forum. You led with inflaming, argumentative name calling comments. Pistons responded saying that I displayed "extreme anti-Western attitude". Then the word Chink flew out of somebody's mouth. Several Asian stereo types were tossed around.

Go ahead, keep sticking your foot in you mouth. All the readers here can see by the definition who the offending party really is.

[PaulInZurich]

When they really drive like snails, how many on autobahns from falling asleep? When can't be because overspeed.

In France speed limit on highway is 130 when dry and 110 when raining. Do people in France all fall asleep at the wheel when it's raining then?

Other countries with speed limit 120 or lower: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Estonia, Finland, Ireland, Japan, Latvia, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Sweden, UK.

Ah, I forget you are a better driver than all the drivers in these countries.

In any case, how often and by how much did you speed after you were caught in Switzerland? See, speed limits and enforcing them works.

[PaulInZurich]

Very simple for me: when I spent so much time in Switzerland for so many years and I loved beautiful Wallis, I won't go now for more than transit, sometimes to brothels, or Verbier, not even to Zermatt I will reach Klein Matterhorn from Italy, I don't like such country who doesn't respect human rights and where law is not same for all. And I won't advice to anybody.

Princess,

I just showed how the law was applied to you. So please show how "law is not same for all", but of course you can only repeat the same ridiculous claims. And if you really believe that human rights were not respected, well there is the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg. But of course any lawyer would have laughed at your ridiculous claims.

I sincerely hope you stay out, no need for insane people with delusions of grandeur driving around. Don't forget to take your pills.

[ShooBree]

You calling me a Troll is like Antifa calling anyone else a Facial. This is the new age education. Shout, scream, insult, cancel. Well, I won't be canceled. I won't stoop to trying to classify you. I will let you continue to display your mannerisms and intellect and let the masses see for themselves.

You have already made it clear to everyone that you're just a hypocritical troll unable of handling people having another opinion than you. You're an embarrassment of this forum.