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  1. #3137
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    Polio, smallpox, tetanos, rabid? Doesn't work?.
    You know how many times that statement has been ignored by the guys here rooting against the vaccine?

  2. #3136
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Dying with or dying from Covid19 is a big difference, and generally isn't mentioned in the media, just like any normal flu is suddenly labelled "Covid19."
    Whatever cause of death you want to label it, the net effect of all of this is that ICU's are over capacity despite hospitals doubling and tripling their allotment of ICU beds, doctors, and nurses. Cities aren't using sporting venues to treat the less sick just because healthcare workers wanted a change of scenery. I personally will be seeing patients in a unit constructed from shipping containers tonight. Not sure why we'd go through the trouble of constructing this multi-mullion dollar temporary facility just to keep up the covid charade.

    Really man, just step way from this topic. I think deep down you know better and I'll leave this as an appeal to your morality.

  3. #3135
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    1st November: 47 000 deaths in UK, 37000 in France.

    26 January: 100 000 in UK, 74 000 in France.

    100 000-47 000=53 000,74 000-37 000=37 000.

    Just like 2020-2007=13 and not 10. And 50+25=75 not 100.
    We need to be more culturally sensitive. Leprechaun math is different. Something about conversion rates for the schillings in the pot of gold.

  4. #3134

    Hammer Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    You don't have to be part of the solution, but at least get out of the way.
    Such a request amounts to a waste of breath or typing energy, whichever the case may be. He's going to get in the way at every opportunity while relishing each moment. There's a subset, typically dumb white Americans and Euros full of misguided passion and fringe media sources, that we are going to have to live with. The line gets drawn when they start to get violent. And private media platforms can of course censor them as they wish.

  5. #3133
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    We're still waiting for you to post links to long term efficacy and side effects studies.
    Seriously. Just try to not contribute to the problem. All of you.

  6. #3132

    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Fact is, vaccines have hardly ever worked.
    This isn't a "fact" but a ridiculous lie. I'd be laughing my ass off if there weren't a bunch of people out there dumb enough to believe you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    It is a planned virus, made in a gain-of-function lab.
    Yawn. This isn't the information age, it's the misinformation, click bait age where lies are sold to dumb people. Just ask Alex Jones. It's all very profitable.

  7. #3131

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Well according to German inspectors, the AstraZeneca vaccine has a whopping 8% efficiency rate!
    You are spreading rumors from unnamed sources related to the over 65 group, and the German Health Ministry disavows it all.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/26/astr...-in-focus.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    And this is the only vaccine we are able to distribute globally to poor countries considering the temperature during transport. The other candidates too most likely have a far lower efficiency rate than the cash grabbing capitalists at the vaccine companies want to admit as well! Plus there is the potential of actually dying straight on once getting the Pfizer vaccine! But then again, we will all most likely be forced into taking the shots sooner or later, or we won't be allowed to travel nor get a job.
    Yet another tin foil hat conspiracy theory peddler that thinks adding exclamation marks will make their lies more believable. For whatever reason, monger forums attract these like flies to honey.

  8. #3130
    More than 4000 deaths in US on last day, wish for news mistake. Biden has really hard job after crazy, when he seems so much more clever for words: unity, peace and supporting US employment and companies, then even as foreigner, but can only agree with him. Wish him to make US much better again.

    Everybody in Western Europe except few bullshting specialists here, tell UK is the most risky country for virus with their mutant spreading now in Europe and no revenge about brexit, Europeans would just prefer they don't send us their more killer mutant, when they don't even put mask in streets, easing spreading. I hate mask, difficult to breathe when you walk stairs, but I put when I m in streets or stores, just for respect for others, even I don't worry much about covid and mutant, keeping on kissing girls from abroad or France.

  9. #3129
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Fact is, vaccines have hardly ever worked. !
    Polio, smallpox, tetanos, rabid? Doesn't work?

    1st November: 47 000 deaths in UK, 37000 in France.

    26 January: 100 000 in UK, 74 000 in France.

    100 000-47 000=53 000,74 000-37 000=37 000.

    Just like 2020-2007=13 and not 10. And 50+25=75 not 100.

  10. #3128
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Well according to German inspectors, the AstraZeneca vaccine has a whopping 8% efficiency rate!
    No, it was according to German newspapers that quoted unnamed officials. This report has been denied by the German authorities. The explanation is apparently that 8% was the number of participants in the test of the relevant age range.

    We'll soon find out if there was any truth to it.

  11. #3127
    If I wanted to reduce the world population by 80-90%, this is exactly how I would imagine it.

    Fact is, vaccines have hardly ever worked. And is extremely dubious regarding mutating viruses. The effect is always miniscule, and the overall effect is negative to your immune systems long term.

    It is a planned virus, made in a gain-of-function lab. Go figure the rest!

  12. #3126
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    Just wondering if "flattening the curve" for the ICU's has made the situation worse. Better for the Corona to burn out quick than to mutate? I'm not advocating one way or the other, don't know. But we'll see.
    Well according to German inspectors, the AstraZeneca vaccine has a whopping 8% efficiency rate! And this is the only vaccine we are able to distribute globally to poor countries considering the temperature during transport. The other candidates too most likely have a far lower efficiency rate than the cash grabbing capitalists at the vaccine companies want to admit as well! Plus there is the potential of actually dying straight on once getting the Pfizer vaccine! But then again, we will all most likely be forced into taking the shots sooner or later, or we won't be allowed to travel nor get a job.

    In other words, lets take a few months to reconsider, and watch this nice little movie named Sunbird.

  13. #3125
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Real figures are France doubled deaths = 37.000 more since November, not even under a mutant, when not a third world country, when Paris is a very famous city and one of the most expensive in the world, but full panic not even under a mutant, Paris being out of control, even under curfew since over 1 month, yada yada yada.
    Your information about France are wrong, even I agree for our too many deaths = not far from 70.000 now, but fortunately for us, we are not in same situation than UK, when we live under not so strict lockdown for us since 1 month and our hospitals didn't explode at the moment, with around 3000 in reanimation. I think at the moment, we even manage better than Germany which is also under more strict lockdown since 1 month, but no competition for deaths, the world lost versus killer covid with I think around 1,5 million deaths. And aren't you informed UK mutant is in France. Belgium closed borders because of mutants, Germany is thinking to forbid international flights entering. UK mutant is the new big problem in Western Europe, it didn't spread only in UK but crossed Channel since before Christmas, and stronger killer as told be Johnson who is down under it.

  14. #3124
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Again you are taking the assumption that the vaccine will be efficient, let us imagine that it will just be as efficient than the one for the normal flue or the one that they promised to us for the HIV. Just have a look about all the politicians or heath authorities were saying about Remdisivir in May and how all this was just bullshit, may be the same about the Pfister and Moderna vaccine.
    Pfizer claim their vaccine would be efficient versus UK and south African mutants, what about Brazilian and new Californian? But they tell for second injection after 3/4 weeks, not 6 or more, so France is now following what say Pfizer for injections, despite lack of vaccine. At the moment, cases and deaths increase in Europe, let s wait for few vaccination effects. I think more warm weather higher than 20 Celsius degrees, with sun would help. When chloroquine was forbidden in France versus virus, but vitamin the is said by our medical to make organism and lungs being stronger versus virus, when lack of sun and hot weather. Our organism seem to get more vitamin the under sun, making stronger versus virus on Summer, maybe why Africa resist quite well, when they live quite naked and often under sun and warm, and also younger population with less diabetics and cardio vascular problems. But never heard about any vaccine for HIV but only pills and they don t cure. Most of girls don t care much about virus, money is more important, maybe they take vitamin the or find in our sperm?

  15. #3123
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    We can't know 5-10 year effects in 7-8 months. Obviously. 5-10 year effects are generally part of Phase IV clinical trials, the part that's conducted after approval and general use.

    And no sir, we're not going to twist the statements and rewrite history. We are talking about this mRNA vaccine. One that carries a specific mRNA for this virus's spike protein, not DNA altering proteins. Membrane protein altering DNA? Rubbish. Autoimmune disease? Rubbish.

    Just let it go. We've passed the peak of this thing. We have a solution so just try to stop contributing to misinformation that leads to more people being needlessly hospitalized and even dead. You don't have to be part of the solution, but at least get out of the way.
    We're still waiting for you to post links to long term efficacy and side effects studies.

    Ah, so now "we passed the peak of this thing?

    I'll tell you why "cases" will disappear: it's because the WHO has lowered the number of cycles ('magnifications') of PCR testing: https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-...-users-2020-05.

    They did this, very quietly, on the say of Biden's inauguration, probably as a little present to China Joe. People of course will still be just as "sick," but all the glory will be pointed towards China Joe and the "vaccine. " By the way, it's the same WHO which is controlled by China and their good Ethiopian agent Tedros. (have a look in Ethiopia, and how China has nearly bought up the entire country).

    Lower the CT threshold = lower "cases."

    https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-...-users-2020-05

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