Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Palcon]

Nobody knows if the vaccine is efficient, it seems that the covid 19 is able to mute very fast so the vaccine like for the normal flue is far less efficient.

It's meant to boost population confidence. Nurse, doctors, old folks, and possibly students first would be my best guess. It will be amazing if the nurses / doctors who are busting their asses to save folks fall ill themselves.

[Mursenary]

Nobody knows if the vaccine is efficient, it seems that the covid 19 is able to mute very fast so the vaccine like for the normal flue is far less efficient.

Yes most viruses mutate very fast in comparison to multicellular organisms. But that fact may or may not be relevant. Most viruses and unicellular organisms mutate all the time. Even human somatic cells have a degree of consistent "mutation. " They can happen by exogenous causes (radiation) but so much more often during the replication processes. The reason that it is often not of any relevance is that most mutations have zero consequence. For mutations to be an issue in vaccine recognition, first the mutation must be expressed. And even if expressed, it has to be at an antigen site in which antibodies bind. Then the change of binding site must be significant enough so that antibodies no longer recognize it. That itself is not a black or white scenario. Usually it's that the binding just has various degrees of lowering affinity. It takes many things to go right for a microbial mutation to be so drastic as to make a vaccine completely ineffective. And in reality it's not that there's a purposeful mutation, but rather just a case of genetic selection in which a specific genetic variation allows that particular "strain" to spread unchecked. Furthermore, the genetic variation must be both specific enough to be located at the site of antigen recognition but not alter the pathogenicity of the virus. That is why vaccines are developed to recognize antigens that are associated with pathogenicity. Very few exceptions exists due to their nature such retroviruses like HIV that become latent and "hides" while also exhausting immune cell resources. Or influenza because it mutates extremely fast. In comparison to the 24 HR and 6 HR life cycles of HIV and Influenza, coronaviruses sit for days. Days in comparison to hours.

Point in short is that the scary idea of mutating viruses is just that, scarier than it sounds. Possible to render a vaccine useless, but more often than not, they are insignificant.

[ExpatLover]

Merkel: Nurses and doctors vaccinate first against coronavirus.

https://rejerusalem.com/287436/merkel-nurses-and-doctors-vaccinate-first-against-coronavirus/

((The federal government hopes that the first vaccines will be approved very soon. "So of course there will not be enough vaccines available", said the Chancellor and stressed: "No one will be forced to be vaccinated, it is a voluntary decision".

Preparations for a vaccination campaign are underway. Federal states have planned their own vaccination centers. It remains to be seen how much vaccine will be available and how long that vaccine will be immunized. The main task is to make the population as a whole immune to the virus. If 60 to 70 percent of the population are immune by vaccination or a disease from which they have suffered the virus is "more or less defeated," Merkel said. " *Then we can also lift all the restrictions* " she said.)).

Lets hope this is done ASAP.

Nobody knows if the vaccine is efficient, it seems that the covid 19 is able to mute very fast so the vaccine like for the normal flue is far less efficient.

[Sirioja]

Second wave just starting, will kill many, and already telling about third wave. I will play Zlatan Ibrahimovic, no vaccine for me. Chinese and Russian vaccines should not be allowed in France. Wish for US, Biden will have power very soon, rather than crazy golfer, before too many new deaths there.

[HammerTime96]

Of course, anyone with 2 braincells could have figured out that a vaccination against a permanently mutating Corona virus is not going to work, but the lies and scaremongering of geriatric people afraid of a flu and their own shadow seem to have the loudest voice here on ISG.

For all the fools still hoping for a "vaccine:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/06/who-...a-vaccine.html

"The detection of the mutated virus among minks has raised questions about the effectiveness of a future Covid-19 vaccine."

https://www.newscientist.com/article...n-farmed-mink/

"The Danish prime minister described the mutated virus as "a serious risk to public health and to the development of a vaccine."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54842643

"Every time the virus spreads between animals it changes, and if it changes too much from the one that is circulating within humans at the moment, that might mean that any vaccine or treatment that will be produced soon might not work as well as it should do," she explained."

[Tuber19]

Merkel: Nurses and doctors vaccinate first against coronavirus.

https://rejerusalem.com/287436/merkel-nurses-and-doctors-vaccinate-first-against-coronavirus/

((The federal government hopes that the first vaccines will be approved very soon. "So of course there will not be enough vaccines available", said the Chancellor and stressed: "No one will be forced to be vaccinated, it is a voluntary decision".

Preparations for a vaccination campaign are underway. Federal states have planned their own vaccination centers. It remains to be seen how much vaccine will be available and how long that vaccine will be immunized. The main task is to make the population as a whole immune to the virus. If 60 to 70 percent of the population are immune by vaccination or a disease from which they have suffered the virus is "more or less defeated," Merkel said. " *Then we can also lift all the restrictions* " she said.)).

Lets hope this is done ASAP.

[Mursenary]

Oh, no need for any impressive stalking skills. It is called search. You can use it to stalk me if you care.

I don't.

Unless they are specialists; the internists and pediatricians and family medicine guys and others are toiling at sub-$200 K.

I don't need to reference medscape entries about physician salaries; I have first hand info from a bunch of people quite close to me.

I already said "unless one is a specialist comps are terrible; money is getting worse and work hours getting longer". As usual, your excessive anger clouds your reading.

Side note: Opinion on your stalking skills took a bit of a hit as I have no idea why you are referencing the lowest paying primary care providers

my assumption is that it was intentionally misleading.

So you prefer anecdotal evidence over data. Got it, but that's clearly not a good habit as your quoted numbers are in themselves wrong when compared against actual, documented, national numbers. You might want to reexamine your own reading skills as I think your "unless" caveat was addressed by the above comment.

But I will reiterate that I choose my words wisely regarding my profession so you might want to look more closely instead of making so many assumptions.

That is one example. You citing wiki to claim paperwork is a trope is a sick joke. Not one family member has said it is not true or not getting worse, and I see that first hand and quite often. Some come back home and still have to work. Some come home very late in the evenings.

I don't think you fully understand the term "trope," as it does not imply that there is no truth. It does; however, have a connotation of themes that are overplayed, overly simplistic, or incomplete in reference to the entire truth. I don't know many critical care or emergency physicians struggling with documentation or taking work home especially in facilities that utilize scribes, hence the reference. But I guess that doesn't fit your limited narrative.

If you were picking up good looking chicks for free, you would not be running 6 times a year for a week each to German FKKs, would you?

Your stalking skills are either even better than I thought or you have a bug whispering in your ear. I wonder. I have visions of a couple of dorks collaborating.

Anyway, if you can't see the appeal of fucking multiple girls every day for 2 weeks versus having to work for it with the chance of failure then I don't know what to tell you. But continue with the false dichotomies.

not a single physician in my extended family gets that much time off; they have to plan months in advance to get any time off, finding someone to cover them when they are vacationing and most take at most a couple of weeks off in a year with great difficulty. That alone is a huge giveaway that you are absolutely bullcrapping. Not to mention when they do go on vacation, time is of a lot more value than cash and none of them scrimp.

Your reliance on tropes betray you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locum

Coming to the way you speak -- that is not the talk of a professional, that is the kind of junk one hears from uneducated blue collar workers whose identity comes from the stuff you are bragging about.

I am envious of my senior partner because his net worth is north of $30 M and I could not care any less if he has a dad bod or dead bod. I am 15 years his junior. In much better shape, and he is not at all envious of me, but he knows I look up to him. The juniors in my office who have a better physique and more stamina do not bother me in the least. But your post confirms once more your urge to lash out in any which you can (a very Trumpian trait), constant references to physical attributes as a show of vanity but merely confirming your lack of class;

Dang man, why you got to go so hard on the blue collar dudes? You seem to tie a lot of self-worth to salary and money. You know what wealthy people don't do? Speak so much about wealth. It's just not classy, not to mention a gross way to look at life.

my friends and I still trash talk in jest but it has been decades since anyone bragged about the kinds of stuff you harp, like picking up chicks, bod, yadda yadda.

And for a guy barely 5 years younger than me, you have no family, no GF apparently, not much financial security, have to fly to DE to get some action despite your physical attraction being your strongest suit in your own words.

Speaking of brag, I guess bragging about money is okay? Gross.

I have financial security issues? Have to fly to get action? Hmmm.

Please quote where you think I brag especially where physical attraction being my strongest suit. I many stronger suits!

Seriously, let's see a quote that you deem qualifies as bragging. Maybe if I know your threshold for bragging, I can try to not offend your insecurities in the future.

you must be a huge disappointment to your Chinese parents.p

They'd be pretty surprise to learn that they are Chinese. Oh that's right, you're a racist, hick that think all Asians are the same.

[Sirioja]

From Western Europe, better and more safe without crazy, Brazilian and Erdogan being enough, and I wish a better life with healthcare to Afros. Crazy will have time to improve for golf.

Really incredible and scaring to see people with war weapons, kind of kalashnikoff, playing Rambo, threatening in streets, just in front of White House. Really crazy dangerous country which really need new peace to come without crazy as leader. They already have sanitary war with so many deaths, economic crisis with high unemployment with how many numerous millions people who can t have healthcare, who don t have insurance, who can t pay for, mostly Afros, like Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens, US icons, when Michael Jackson wanted to become white.

[Pistons]

Mursenary is also Phallus Maximus. This is getting silly.

[ExpatLover]

Hi Ho,

Best you can do it just to ignore him, he doesn't deserve your time, put your energy in positive things, as you told us you are very lucky in Japan you can date students.

[Mursenary]

I remember Takedown well, he was a piece of work. On the other hand I never got into Mursenary's posts, I found them boring.

We're complicated beings who go through phases. Give it some time. I won't letcha down!

[Mursenary]

When I did a quick search, his prior avatar of TakeDown had a very similar pattern, including creating multiple side avatars in which he was coordinating attacks on other members, per the comments of members then. In one, he created a highly offensive name for the handle itself implying a homosexual physical link between two senior members here (Mr Cane and Mr Ho).

Let's see that post.

BTW, my undergrad was in electrical engineering and I spent a few years doing semiconductor chip design prior to business school but this man with a supposedly a health sciences background has the temerity to say "welcome to the internet" to me. That is how his mind works. Make up any insult because it feels good to lash out.

Ah, an engineer. Figured as much.

[Ararat]

You are same guy with the handle name Takedown! Stop using multiple account with different handle names as Pistons were pointing out in other thread and thank you for letting us know how often you logged in to forum as if we want to know such information how often you logged in, wow LOL!

Using several accounts is bad form. I agree with you on that.

Since I don't follow the gossip in the site I have a question. Whatever happened to the basket case that posted under several names before?

[ShooBree]

You're so right! Not once!

I know, I'm glad that you finally came clean.

[ExpatLover]

Congrats to the Biden / Harris and Dem supporters on this site.

I hope Trump would not make an ass of himself in the next 2+ months but if I was betting, my guess is that he most certainly will. It is because he makes an ass of himself that he was able to appeal to and bring out such a large turn out. If he was the graceful type (as Romney / McCain were), he would have lost by a bigger margin.

Better he prepares himself for all the court trial that will come. Trump is a disaster for the image of the US, rude, liar, cheating, aggressive, selfish, egoistic. By by and I don't wish him all the best.