Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Mongerer88]

We have needs. Restrictions, foreign and domestic, travel bans, bar closures, hotel and FKK shutdowns, all those essentials to our monger travel is an awful bitterness and irritation. The longer restrictions last, the stronger will be the resentment.

But how can you suggest that a commercial sex in the US is a free market? P6 is illegal in the US. That's a major force driving the prices up. For europeans, there are a lot more legal P6 options compared to the US. Your post is misleading. Independent escort websites are banned in the US. They can easily be police traps. If you wish to risk your reputation, sure. Sorry, my whole career is ruined if I get caught. So which independent escort websites you are talking about, specifically?

And Pahllus is right: Seeking Arrangement is a completely time wasteful, endless cat and mouse game that american women love the most. Degenerate code words and anyone's guesses what they mean in which context. This is not a P6, it's a resentment..

You and Phallus are the ones who do the misleading posts, in my opinion.

A website of an independent escort who has reviews is simply not a trap by the police.

You take Backpage sting operations and invalidly extrapolate that to situations that are not synonymous to fool those who don't educate themselves as to how the system works.

I would never advise someone to book an inexpensive session through a mass advertising site. They do risk arrest that way.

One of the reasons the USA Scene is expensive is that to be left alone by law enforcement, the lady needs to screen and to incur overhead costs of having things like a website and other escort contacts.

And I don’t understand the mistrust and negativity toward Seeking Arrangement ladies, especially given the favorable reviews in other threads. You are sitting across from a lady sharing a meal and ultimately discussing sex for money. How is the American SA lady so much more conniving than the Romanian sex worker prowling the FKK? Is it really something more than the price?

[Sirioja]

Pessimist: Mursenary is Takedown along with several other more or less used accounts, including the one who sent out those PM's and who accused random people of multiple nicks a few months back.

He is however not McAdonis. McAdonis does not use multiple nicks.

And also escape artist? Some guys use several profiles, fakers for me, when only one me.

[Mursenary]

The most pathetic guys during this pathetic are the younger ones who have only felt a female's touch with hookers. Imagine being 35-40 years old and haven't even been on a date in 10 years, if ever. They never actually ever had to earn the opposite sex's admiration either by physical attractiveness or ability to be "not creepy. ". I remember Evita at Sharks looking asking me about the a strange nordic guy that kept following me around. She asked, "why is he so strange. He looks like Frankenstein."

[Sirioja]

I mean maybe not in your opinion, but in my opinion I think cutting other people's head off in church is quite a big sign of unhappy immigrant, man French people must respect other people's religion more instead of making fun of their religion with cartoon, this is ture, France declared religious warfare by insulting Muslim people is what happened. Plus France lost the control again with covid 19 as well, very busy country with many chaos.

You really should inform yourself before writing. This Tunisian who is from a country which is close for culture to France, arrived in Lampedusa Italian island on September and was refused to stay in Italy, then he entered in France illegally on beginning of October, to kill 2 women and a priest in a church 3 weeks later. Immigrant? Terrorist for sure. Ask Tchetchen who cut a teacher head parents about what they think about their son who asked asylum to France which welcome him, action, do they prefer to return to misery in Tchetcheny? I m pretty sure they don't want, they prefer France. Most of Imans in France support freedom in France, only few integrists want to kill, not even respecting Coran. Muslim Balkanian parents shaved their daughter head because she was in love for a Christian Serbian, poor girl, her parents were sent off France, but what will she become after such traumatism? Many muslims in France and I m pretty sure most prefer to live in France rather than returning to their origins level of life, even when born in France, when so many Germans, UK, NL, Belgium, prefer to live with french quality of life rather than in their own country, Germany can't compete with France for quality of life, except rich Bavaria and south Germany. Better to know a bit, and yes, France is land of freedom, no other country can compete for this, maybe why number 1 for tourism, also because of our rich culture. I m happy to see real artist superstar Stevie Wonder supporting Biden, wish Black won't be shot anymore for nothing.

[Mursenary]

You may be right. I don't deny that I have my own biases. Everyone has them, I have mine- in my case it is the Moslem terrorists and the commie Chinese government. Pretty sure some of my friends in my personal life are turned off by my stances and rhetoric, but it is what it is.

Having said that, we can't deny the barbaric nature of throat slits and beheadings and the utterly disgusting hypocrisy shown by Turkey and the rest of Moslem world that silently gives a pass to Chinese concentration camps in Uighur land but bullying France in their hour of need with these despicable boycotts of French products. How would we feel if after 9/11, all the Moslem nations announced a boycott of American products? Perhaps my use of rounding up and deportation is an extreme rhetoric but it was spoken in frustration. The reality is that it will not happen. But it is what gives rise to the Trumpian forces too: they see the hypocrisy of these Islamic nations.

You speak of it so lightly, trivializing hate speech. Billions of muslims in the world and most don't even have anything to do with state affairs. How many are peacefully and assimilating in western nations? Hundreds of millions.

Rounding up might not happen but that sort of rhetoric gets repeated and seeps into the minds of people. End result, the majority of everyday muslims who have no violent desires have to deal with the end result of the hate speech you're putting out there. Guys like Dylan Roof become emboldened by speech like yours and end up shooting up an entire church. I'm sure you scoff when black people put the "oppressor" tag on all white people, but here you're doing the same but worse. Labeling an entire group of people as Barbarians and calling for rounding up innocent people. You mock Trump, but you're calling for something worse than anything he's ever proposed, unapologetic and doubling down. Shameful.

[BrahmaPoutre]

How lucky you are to session no pro students. I remember the time when the girls just arrived by bus from Bucharest and begin few days or hours later in World or Oase. It was the best time for me, unfortunately this job changes very quickly most of the girls even the face. Since 2016 it is very difficult to find fresh, natural beauties in FKK.

If you look carefully his profile here, he never shared any experiences with girls here on forum.

[Sirioja]

Well if people stopped doing whatever they want during summer holiday travelling to places visiting brothels and mountains and this and that, you could have prevented innocent people from dying by minimize the spread of the virus!

I made so many highest quality tests on this Summer on my climbings, last on Sunday 25 October, climbing Col Agnel 2744 meters high, 3 degrees on top, snow on road which was closed but not for me on my bicycle. Anthology day, best test, who could climb this with covid? After so many brothels visits and escorts.

[BrahmaPoutre]

Well if people stopped doing whatever they want during summer holiday travelling to places visiting brothels and mountains and this and that, you could have prevented innocent people from dying by minimize the spread of the virus!

You are really a funny guy.

So we close everything, restaurant, hairdresser, shops, sports, college, university, travels, factories, dentists, brothels of course! And so on.

I suggest we follow Mr Ho's advice, we just wake up and spend all our time on Internet. LOL!

[Smoke Light]

If the political system is idiotic, why involve it in the commercial sex trade at all? It can be argued that the current USA Environment with respect to commercial sex is one of the best examples of a free market ever. A person can contact the seller of sex directly through thousands of independent escort websites, twitter feeds, and Seeking Arrangement ads. The prices are indeed very high, but there are fewer middlemen. I don't know how one argues price distortion in that circumstance. She is selling it and the customer is buying it.

We have needs. Restrictions, foreign and domestic, travel bans, bar closures, hotel and FKK shutdowns, all those essentials to our monger travel is an awful bitterness and irritation. The longer restrictions last, the stronger will be the resentment.

But how can you suggest that a commercial sex in the US is a free market? P6 is illegal in the US. That's a major force driving the prices up. For europeans, there are a lot more legal P6 options compared to the US. Your post is misleading. Independent escort websites are banned in the US. They can easily be police traps. If you wish to risk your reputation, sure. Sorry, my whole career is ruined if I get caught. So which independent escort websites you are talking about, specifically?

And Pahllus is right: Seeking Arrangement is a completely time wasteful, endless cat and mouse game that american women love the most. Degenerate code words and anyone's guesses what they mean in which context. This is not a P6, it's a resentment.

Personally, I think most political and economic systems work pretty damn well, and represent what the majority of the populace wants. So I don't feel the need to diss the United States in post after post. I accept things. The USA has high commercial sex prices if done in a manner that minimizes the risk of arrest. It also has a relatively high Covid-19 rate, but there is plenty of freedom and that has a price. As to it not having a lot of hospital beds, does it really owe me that?

Arrest is nothing. You get to see a judge the next day, or a Monday, if you had to spend a weekend at the police station. Not to worry, you sleep on a "bed" without a mattress and they bring you a Big Mac or a cheeseburger from the local McDonalds. You pay your fine and you go home, but your arrest record, your charges, your real name become public. Your employer and your family will be glad to find out delicious details. Oh, freedom, such a simple word to casually toss around. US is a police state.

Critical assessment of one's country is not unpatriotic. Emigration and immigration are not unpatriotic or patriotic, either. It's an open-minded and basic human right to move to another part of the world. I understand what Pahllus writes. My bewilderment is what freedom you are talking about.

[BigBuddy69]

For once, I agree with you 100%. France needs to be tougher. All these Muslims went to France because they wanted to, France did not abduct them from the ghettos they lived in their home countries.

Actually that's not 100 % true. Some of them came because of the former french colonization of North Africa (which was clearly not a good idea), the harkis for example came to France because they were supportive of the french colonization of Algeria and if they had stayed, they would be dead (slit throat and so on).

But I agree with you, if some prick is offended because of funny cartoons, he should move to a place where those cartoons are banned (incidentally these countries are all dictatorships and most of the population live in misery). The problem is that some Muslims in France want to import their lost way of life (oppression of women, glorification of young men) in my country, instead of moving their hairy asses back to their country of origin.

[Pessimist]

Yeah, Biden looks somewhat shaky. What were the Democrats thinking?

They needed a milquetoast who would not be offensive to the middle. The thing is that most people always react to past negative outcomes. Dems took Hillary defeat to heart and the lesson they learned is that she was hated by many and was not appealing to the middle. So, they came up with a guy who in their minds would turn off the least numbers in the middle and yet not depress the vote on the left most side. A moderate like Buttigieg would not excite the left and Bernie would turn off the middle. So, Biden was a compromise.

US voting population is a constantly shifting mass. We elect a single guy at the top but we have a thousand mini blocks. Alliances and coalitions are always forming, shifting, breaking up and new ones forming. In the moment, it does not appear that way but seen over decades the patterns are amazing. For example, South used to be very Dem supporting but in the last 60 years it has become almost entirely GOP monopoly. West Coast was not this liberal even 20 to 30 years ago. NY had d'Amato as the senator who was a modest right winger for his day. Georgia had Sam Nunn and Alabama had Howell Heflin, and ofc Bill Clinton was from Arkansas. Now, things are shifting again, and after 2/3 decades of being deep red, GA is almost neutral. On a demographic basis, WHites have been shrinking as percent of population and of voters which drive a lot of anxieties. The prosperity of last 50 years benefited a small sliver disproportionately. Rise of China has depressed wages and net worth for a lot of people. Manufacturing jobs have become scarce. In the 60's /70's even high school grads could expect to become solidly middle class with a house, a car, kids in school and perhaps even college. Now, that is a pipedream. The thing is that free trade supporting Republicans from Northeast and West Coast were anti Union and recited the trickle down mantra but that supposed trickling did not happen, at least not enough. Unions shrank, and with GOP leading the charge against Unions to a large extent. In an ironic way, when the unions splintered (at least for the purpose of voting at national level), the splinters coalesced on ethnic lines. The non college ex Union White is one of the strongest supporting blocks of GOP now, which was the exact opposite situation 30 years ago. Meanwhile, college educated whites became more of a fiscal conservative / social liberal types and are split 50/50 or 55/45 and sometimes support Dems and sometimes support GOP. Not to mention, the gender disparity with women in every group supporting Dems and men supporting GOP. They were always supposed to be mommy and daddy party and that has not changed all that much.

So, this is always a tightrope walk for both parties. When they have a winner, they fall behind even if they have disagreements. People marvel at how strong is Trump's support despite all the things MSM sees negatively in him. But FDR said once of Somoza "he is a SoB but he is our SoB" -- when your guy is in power, you don't question him or backstab him. If Trump loses, I expect there will be a lot of introspection and another round of shifting coalitions. The challenger always has the tougher task of putting together an acceptable candidate that appeals to both the extremes and the middle -- until they win, in which case the other side will do it. I have a thousand friends who hate Trump's personal conduct and even policy positions but will never ever vote Dem. These are very moderate, very family oriented, normal people who do not talk / behave / do anything like Trump in real life and yet will vote for him because they will always vote GOP. Some have flipped, but only a few. On the other hand, I also know blue collar people I knew growing up, from my parents' town who did not do well in life and who used to vote Dem and now are solidly GOP. They love Trump, personally. I can't understand them and for the most part it is an uneasy conversation. In fact, politics has become so poisonous we hardly talk at even dinner tables, especially extended family dinners like Christmas and Thanksgiving.

[Pessimist]

Pessimist: Mursenary is Takedown along with several other more or less used accounts, including the one who sent out those PM's and who accused random people of multiple nicks a few months back.

He is however not McAdonis. McAdonis does not use multiple nicks.

Thanks. I don't know TakeDown, was before my time or at least I didn't get into any disagreements with him to remember LOL. Yes it is obvious McAdonis and Mursenary are different. For one, McAdonis writes much more authoritatively on social science topics and that is his forte. Mursenary clearly likes health science discussions. Just my observation.

[Pessimist]

Dude, those are pretty Hitler / Trumpish words. Barbarians? Round up? Jewish-Germans and Japanese-Americans were also round up. Never heard such hate speech from you before. Pretty disappointing.

You may be right. I don't deny that I have my own biases. Everyone has them, I have mine- in my case it is the Moslem terrorists and the commie Chinese government. Pretty sure some of my friends in my personal life are turned off by my stances and rhetoric, but it is what it is.

Having said that, we can't deny the barbaric nature of throat slits and beheadings and the utterly disgusting hypocrisy shown by Turkey and the rest of Moslem world that silently gives a pass to Chinese concentration camps in Uighur land but bullying France in their hour of need with these despicable boycotts of French products. How would we feel if after 9/11, all the Moslem nations announced a boycott of American products? Perhaps my use of rounding up and deportation is an extreme rhetoric but it was spoken in frustration. The reality is that it will not happen. But it is what gives rise to the Trumpian forces too: they see the hypocrisy of these Islamic nations.

[Turgid]

A big part of this rise was so easy to achieve by switching the productions facilities to China mostly, by doing that the US created very strong competitors, Samsung, Huawei, Xiaomi. Were all suppliers for Apple at the beginning, same for the wind industry, for the telecom, for the batteries. Like for other subjects now it is too late for the US probably they will become number 2 very fast if not already done. China have hugely invested in infrastructures (airports, highways, trains) over the last 20 years, in the US the infrastructures like highways, high speed trains. Are terrible, also the school system is a disaster, without speaking about the healthcare, on top of that the new President will be a old guy probably not able to change the things to seriously come back in the race against China.

Yeah, Biden looks somewhat shaky. What were the Democrats thinking?

[Turgid]

Pessimist: Mursenary is Takedown along with several other more or less used accounts, including the one who sent out those PM's and who accused random people of multiple nicks a few months back.

He is however not McAdonis. McAdonis does not use multiple nicks.

Hey, I remember Takedown. He had some controversial posts. Had some interaction with him concerning FKK activities. Perhaps he'll return when FKKs reopen.