Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Pessimist]

If the immigrant is unhappy in France, why not just move to where he is happy? Or go back to his origin country where his religion is not mocked by others? You can't move to a new country and expect them to change their own culture or religion to your liking. France was way too tolerant with immigrants for too long, and this is exactly what happens when you lose control of your own country for too long. Cutting other people's head off is brutal terrorism and should never be condoned. Never. Never ever. Period.

For once, I agree with you 100%. France needs to be tougher. All these Muslims went to France because they wanted to, France did not abduct them from the ghettos they lived in their home countries. If they can't put up with their mullah and allah ribbed a little, they should have stayed in their homeland ghettos. The weird thing is that at least a majority of the Muslims in France must be aghast at these atrocities committed by their Islamic brothers, but as usual, they always keep quiet but raise their heads only when their beloved prophet is insulted. France should round these barbarians up and ship them back to their homeland. That is one action I would be fully supportive of.

I thought god is someone that is supposed to take care of you when you are in trouble, but these idiot barbarians get themselves into trouble trying to protect their god and the dignity of god. What a twisted world they live in.

[Mursenary]

Here you are yet again with more excuses. You sure are determined to prove me right. NJ, NY, Massachusetts and Connecticut are still the top 4 with most deaths per capita. Embarrassing for the Democratic Party.

They have it under worse control than Sweden, Sweden, a country whose approach was so heavily criticized and ridiculed! I'm dying of laughter, not only do they have a higher number of deaths per capita, it's also increasing faster!

The moving seven day average of yesterday: Sweden 4 deaths, NY 15, NJ 11, Massachusetts 21 and Connecticut 5.

Speaking of basic statistics. Why confound total seven day average deaths with per capita deaths.

In any case, care to list the 7 day average of Texas, Georgia, Florida for comparison?

[Pessimist]

You're a typical Democrat, a ignorant and arrogant know-it-all that knows nothing. Why do you libtards hate free speech so much? Here you are, in the German part of an international forum telling others what they are allowed to write about. If you want me to take you somewhat seriously you should have written your nonsense in usasexguide and stayed away from ISG.

I've lived in Colorado and Silicon Valley, but sure I know nothing about USA. My family and I have contributed more to the American economy than you ever will.

"The ugly American", I've never liked that expression but damn son, you're pretty much the definition of that expression.

I could call you a idiot or a moron, but I'm sure that you've already heard that a thousand times before so I will take the high road.

Whatever, bud. As far as I am concerned, you are just another foreigner wannabe American. Perhaps you should go to Mexico, pay some warlord all your money and sneak into the US in one of those trucks. Then you get to talk. When you get here, pay some taxes, then your views on US politics are worth paying attention to. Till then stick to whatever third world nation that you are currently located in.

[Mongerer88]

Compelling data graphic. On initial inspection, there seems to be strong correlation. But upon closer inspection, the data was graphed on a base 10 logarithmic scale making it appear as if countries like Romania and Switzerland shared a similar income range as compared to say Laos and Cambodia where Romania should be. Same goes for the vertical axis where countries like Germany and the USA share a similar region in per capita infection. The graph is thus a bit misleading. But it's fair to say that some degree of correlation exist between extremely poor or rich countries and covid spread. What it fails to show is useful correlation when comparing the middle 80%. Why are similar GDP per capita countries such as Japan and the UK so different in infection rates? Why are Poland and so Brazil so different?

I was under the impression that he was arguing against the political system and cultural issues. Where did cost of living come from? Singapore, Qatar, and Norway have some of the highest median incomes in the world but do you want to live under the socially oppressive Singapore government? The culture of Qatar? Or live next to the social weirdos that come out of Norway? Living in the dark half the year makes for poor social development.

The second part of what I wrote was my continued bewilderment at what Phallus writes.

He started off long ago by proposing that the United States adopt an FKK system.

He has argued that public ownership of brothels would be beneficial.

And that sex workers themselves represent unskilled labor and that there prices in the USA Are artificially high.

And he argues that the political system in the United States is idiotic and a failure in virtually all regards, including with respect to Covid-19, in comparison to the systems of other countries. I believe he has argued also that the economic system in the USA Is a failure and only benefits the Elites.

So I just keep getting more and more confused, although I do believe he has some points with respect to the idiotic political system.

If the political system is idiotic, why involve it in the commercial sex trade at all? It can be argued that the current USA Environment with respect to commercial sex is one of the best examples of a free market ever. A person can contact the seller of sex directly through thousands of independent escort websites, twitter feeds, and Seeking Arrangement ads. The prices are indeed very high, but there are fewer middlemen. I don't know how one argues price distortion in that circumstance. She is selling it and the customer is buying it.

One of the primary reasons that sex is much, much less expensive in Germany, and to a lesser extent in Spain and Portugal, is the influx of Romanian imports into Germany, and from South America into Iberia. The Iberian ladies price match with their South American sisters and live in harmony. The German ladies are less inclined to do so, and when American independent escorts are compared in prices to the German independent escorts, the price difference is not as pronounced.

So the price differences between this horrible United States and Europe is heavily weighted toward importation of low-priced labor and the willingness of the government to allow large facilities where the imported labor, which he considers unskilled, to fuck a lot of guys in a relatively short period of time. When you view it in those terms, the political system in the USA Is less idiotic than he lets on. Germany is unique in its system, and I think the worldwide trend is away from its system of allowing imported sex labor to be performed at fixed location facilities.

I am not trying to disrespect it, so I simply asked him the question. If Germany, Austria and Switzerland is Nirvana, why not move there?

I was confused, and still am, as to why public investment in facilities where this supposedly unskilled labor performs its services would be beneficial. I am also confused as to why the labor is even considered unskilled. We all spend a lot of time discussing and reviewing women who provide commercial sex, so I simply don't view them as unskilled. I truly don't give a shit who picked the tomato on my sandwich, but the last lady who performed oral sex on me is truly meaningful to me. She charged a lot, but I was okay with paying the price she asked.

Personally, I think most political and economic systems work pretty damn well, and represent what the majority of the populace wants. So I don't feel the need to diss the United States in post after post. I accept things. The USA has high commercial sex prices if done in a manner that minimizes the risk of arrest. It also has a relatively high Covid-19 rate, but there is plenty of freedom and that has a price. As to it not having a lot of hospital beds, does it really owe me that?

No, neither the country nor its politicians owe me a damn thing, and neither do the women there owe me inexpensive sex. The market determines this stuff.

I don't spend my life complaining about things I can't control, which includes the price of local sex, the Covid-19 positivity rate, or who the other 330 million people vote for.

We can all try to emigrate / immigrate or whatever the word is if it becomes unbearable. But guess what, it has been my observation that there are more people trying to get into the USA Than get out of it. So I doubt that the grass is really greener on the other side. Most guys in the USA Enjoy the occasional trip to Europe, Canada, Asia, or Mexico / South America and the less expensive sex that comes with it, but when push comes to shove, few of them are looking to really leave.

And one of the reasons why, is that just like the American hookers, they get paid way more to do the same damn job in the USA Than they would outside of it. And there are a lot more everyday luxuries to enjoy in the USA Than outside of it.

So that is my rant. I wish American would quit complaining about the USA.

[Pessimist]

Looks like you read only part of my that post you responded to, or you read it in a hurry. You may want to read it again.

Or we are writing in different versions of English that means different to you vs me.

Thanks.

I did read the full essay but responded to the part of that comment that I cared to respond. Is that OK with you? You responded to my own comment by ignoring everything in there and accused me of not reading your entire response -- whereas you responded to not a single thing in my own comment.

And as usual, you skipped the actual questions in my text. That must have been the 100th time. Why did you not ask for rounding up all Asians in all the Western societies and ship them out if you felt any Asian inside any club was a mortal threat? How was that logical?

[Pessimist]

Well, sure sounds like Phallus Maximus is another one of Mursenary's clone accounts. Aside from that, it is too much to read. But of course it is a dangerous virus. Not to mention that 10% of the infected get long term problems it seems. But what do you know when it's a biological weapon!

I personally told a few people: 'lock the fuck down' (as I understood immediately that this was a bio weapon), and we got away with it better than the swedes. Not surprisingly in retrospect though, as anything polar opposite to the swedish model in anything is usually the best way to do things.

When I began posting here approximately 18 months ago, I was continuously hounded by 3 senior members at that time that I was a fake, sham, clone account; I was accused of being one of the numerous avatars of the same person, others being Gino, Tintin, some others I am forgetting. Gino and I pretty much never agree on anything, and it was a preposterous accusation. Two of those senior members tag-teamed in claiming that I was not even an American but was a Brit in fact because I used "punter" as opposed to "monger" in a comment. First of all, I think being a Brit is a cool thing, but I didn't realize I was in a forum swimming with such linguistic experts who could read my innermost persona and my exterior characteristics with such precision based on stray comments I wrote on a sex forum with less thought than I give to what flavored bagel I should eat for breakfast. In any case, since a verified passport is not required to post here, what fucking difference does it make to them if I was a Brit faking as an American? Thankfully, they ceased their horrendous campaign after a few months and now I don't even see them posting here any longer (except one).

So, I am sensitive to this charge of one member randomly accusing another of being a clone of some other member (s). I don't know how long Mursenary has been posting here, nor do I know the same about Phallus. I began noticing their comments only when I got into modest disagreements with both (funny how that works). But over time, one can see where people stand, their views on life, how they think -- at least somewhat superficially. I am 100% positive Mursenary and Phallus are not the same; if that means you will accuse me of being a clone of one of them, that is fine too but it is very obvious to anyone reading their comments and interests and other views they are very different. Phallus, I view him as being very libertarian. Pardon me if I characterized you wrong. He almost does not seem to have much interest in these political discussions and pandemic topics. He is almost similar to PolyAmorist, except PolyA has a biting sarcastic tongue and a sharp wit (not that Phallus doesn't but PolyA is clearly a talented writer). Mursenary and McAdonis often agree on many topics but most definitely not the same either. I myself am 100% positive I am not Gino. It would be like matter and antimatter coming together haha. I really love reading the views of Mongerer88, Tank Tank, and Bfsie is a very helpful gentleman.

The only ones I can think of as being clones are these Hammer / Shoe / Sobe / other assorted types. Not that I am accusing them of being actual clone accounts but the only thing they post is alt right drivel and that could come from the same bot. Far be it from me to say any such thing about other posters, but there is very little differentiation between any dozens of their posts -- "Covid is a nothingburger, masks are useless, you are all foolish unless you agree with every word I say, Trump is great, Sweden is great, vaccines suck, Fauci sucks, you have no guts, you are all pussies and wussies, blah blah" (I am sure the good people of Sweden are recoiling in horror at being lumped next to Trump in the same basket). I was also very positive that an infrequent poster called Apolloyon (something like that) was a clone account of one of the aforementioned 3 senior members that were always attacking me -- if I am correct in my suspicion it would be so ironic because their entire agenda was to "clean up" the site of any clone accounts while they probably used a clone account in that quest.

[Paulie97]

LOL, it's called critical thinking and living in the present. NY, NJ, and Mass have have controlled the outbreak as well as any Nordic or Asian countries since the initial outbreak. Meanwhile, Texas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and all of the Trump midwest took the protected head start and continue to bath in covid infested respiratory droplets at every redneck Trump rally.

To focus on the intital outbreaks in areas of international transfit in the Northeast while ignoring their exemplary jobs at breaking the curve afterwards is an exercise in dishonesty of the lowest order, as these testimonies contain proven strategies for controlling the pandemic. A piece of dog shit like Ted Cruz knows better, but many of the Trump cultists do not as they just swallow hook, line, and sinker whatever Trump and his media sources tell them.

Never even voted for a Democrat in my life until just 2 hours ago. People who think the way you are presenting, demigod worship and lack of nuance in data analysis, have killed the Republican brand. Perhaps rational conservatives can fill the void and undo the damage that these anglo-centric nationalists have done.

Yes the Trump cultists want to make it about Democrats and Republicans, but it's actually about removing a corrupt, incompetent, constantly lying conspiracy theory peddler from power. That's the first step for Repubs toward reclaiming their party.

[ExpatLover]

For those who had the idea to go to Austria for FKK, second lock down already put on place, how many times I wrote not to go to FKK to keep social distancing now in Europe again everything is closed. For me really a good time just because I will again earn a lot of money with shares, but what to do with my money since I drastically decreased my pay sex activities: my garage is full with classic cars).

[Sirioja]

I support neither the Republicans nor the Democrats but I believe it would be absolutely astonishing if Trump wins the elections. I just cannot see the Republicans winning this one. We will have the Democrats leading the US for the next four years.

For Western Europeans, even we are friend with US, but Trump is dangerous crazy, like Erdogan in different way. Putin is less dangerous for us, even he is killing Ukraine since years. I m not a specialist of US politic, but I was amazed about Ku Klux still being so powerful in Oregon. US forgot Martin Luther King, Tommie Smith and John Carlos. What about Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Tiger Woods, Will Smith, Jay Z, Kayny West, Carl Lewis, all blond white.

[ExpatLover]

I support neither the Republicans nor the Democrats but I believe it would be absolutely astonishing if Trump wins the elections. I just cannot see the Republicans winning this one. We will have the Democrats leading the US for the next four years.

Trump has a big part of responsibility if he not re-elected. For me, he was not serious in his duty, saying a lot of lies and stupidity, promising a lot of things that never happen. When you listen to Obama speeches, there is nothing comparable with Trump. For me Trump is looking many times unprepared, I remember when he left the White House during the riots, after he was alone with a bible in front of the church all this is unprofessional, also there are a lot of rumours about taxes, may be coming trials. On the other side Biden is not looking very healthy, both are too old for this very difficult job in very difficult times.

[Turgid]

Since all the Trump haters keep bringing up his name, with special nicknames for the duly elected leader, for many of the issues that are not really in his control (as opposed to Trump lovers bringing up Biden's name that often), I wanted to throw couple of links (with views opposing to what the mainstream media like CNN, MSNBC, CBS etc want us to believe) for some more civic discussions and exchange of views about US politics and it's impact on us the mongers. Maybe we all will learn something from these, or maybe these will simply just generate more rants as this thread is aptly named, let's see. But I suggest anyone to comment on these only after reading thru the articles, please. Thank you all.

Newsweek opinion column: "Why I'm Voting for Donald Trump".

https://www.newsweek.com/why-im-voti...pinion-1542990

The Hill opinion column: "Trump or Biden? On the economy, the choice is clear".

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...hoice-is-clear

I support neither the Republicans nor the Democrats but I believe it would be absolutely astonishing if Trump wins the elections. I just cannot see the Republicans winning this one. We will have the Democrats leading the US for the next four years.

[ShooBree]

Five bucks says Shoe actually lives in Sweden, Alabama.

I hope you enjoy yourself in your mother's basement.

I hold your medical "expertise" as high as Dr Albans. You should go a course in basic statistics.

[ShooBree]

LOL, it's called critical thinking and living in the present. NY, NJ, and Mass have have controlled the outbreak as well as any Nordic or Asian countries since the initial outbreak. Meanwhile, Texas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and all of the Trump midwest took the protected head start and continue to bath in covid infested respiratory droplets at every redneck Trump rally.

Never even voted for a Democrat in my life until just 2 hours ago. People who think the way you are presenting, demigod worship and lack of nuance in data analysis, have killed the Republican brand. Perhaps rational conservatives can fill the void and undo the damage that these anglo-centric nationalists have done.

Here you are yet again with more excuses. You sure are determined to prove me right. NJ, NY, Massachusetts and Connecticut are still the top 4 with most deaths per capita. Embarrassing for the Democratic Party.

They have it under worse control than Sweden, Sweden, a country whose approach was so heavily criticized and ridiculed! I'm dying of laughter, not only do they have a higher number of deaths per capita, it's also increasing faster!

The moving seven day average of yesterday: Sweden 4 deaths, NY 15, NJ 11, Massachusetts 21 and Connecticut 5.

It's amazing considering the number of deaths that they've already reached. They are the world champions and they ain't stopping, lmfao. Massachusetts are standing out, they are out for the top spot!

Considering the number of old people living in Florida I thought that they would do much worse, but the Blue states obviously can't stand the thought of a red state being number one on the list. Lmfao.

But to be completely honest, who cares? I've fucked a different hooker every week since March / April and I'm still alive. I haven't even needed to stop training because I felt sick. Au contraire, I'm healthier than ever. This virus only kills the weak and extremely unlucky who weren't smart enough to self-isolate.

The Democrats is the perfect party for people who hate White people and approve of radical Islam. Just look at those representing the party, Omar, AOC, Pressley and Tlaib.

[ShooBree]

You should, because you will not get too many more. BTW, why the fuck is a Swedish bloke yukking up about a country he knows nothing about? Did you pay a dime of tax in this country? I realize you may find some fraternity with the Proud Boys gang but until you pay you don't get to play. Come back to talk to us when you have a US citizenship and paid some taxes. Until then you are just a foreigner who has an opinion about American politics, which everyone in the world seems to have. Your view counts for something if you have a vote, which you don't. Thank god, because we have already enough idiots in our own country.

You're a typical Democrat, a ignorant and arrogant know-it-all that knows nothing. Why do you libtards hate free speech so much? Here you are, in the German part of an international forum telling others what they are allowed to write about. If you want me to take you somewhat seriously you should have written your nonsense in usasexguide and stayed away from ISG.

I've lived in Colorado and Silicon Valley, but sure I know nothing about USA. My family and I have contributed more to the American economy than you ever will.

"The ugly American", I've never liked that expression but damn son, you're pretty much the definition of that expression.

I could call you a idiot or a moron, but I'm sure that you've already heard that a thousand times before so I will take the high road.

[HammerTime96]

Well guys, second lockdown is well on it's way!

I hope all the fearmongers here will enjoy it! Thank you very much for ruining it for all of us!