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  1. #1754
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Jeesuz. The hyperbole here is typical to what you hear on popular news outlets. There is something called being practical and and measured. One can pay attention to credible sources, understand the most likely science, process worst case and best case scenarios, and then act accordingly. Calling people out for acting out of fear is ridiculous and is definitely stolen from political speak. There is such a thing as being measured and behaving responsibly. It's not a complete social isolation versus complete promotion of super spreader lifestyle. Comparing a 25 year old female's "bravery" in risk assessment versus a 50+ year old monger's risk profile is asinine. Women already survive at twice the rate of men and sub 40 year olds are hospitalized at a quarter of the rate.
    My comment was to HammerTime why I cannot agree with him on his "little girls" statement. Wondering why "practical, measured and responsible" (aka "scared") others are triggered from that. Maybe this is the so called "tolerance" of others' opinions?

  2. #1753
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    As much as I agree with your overall view of this virus catastrophe, sorry I can't agree with you on this one. Most little girls (eg the FKK girls who are mostly between 18 and 30 years age) seems to be much more brave than most "men" here (who are mostly above 30 years age) who doesn't want to visit an FKK now and scared sitting (and shitting) at home. On the other hand, most of these brave little FKK girls are happily working (kissing an unknown random guy from the street who may or may not have the active virus in his body, then sucking his dick bare to make it hard, then letting him insert that dick in her pussy with or without a condom, then may even take his cum in the mouth and swallow his load for a meager 50-150 euros! And repeat that cycle as many times as possible on any given day!) at any FKK or private places they can find open, without any fear. Can anyone point me to one FKK girl who isn't working now because she's scared of this fucking virus? I would even bet that back in Romania little girls of ages 14-17 are eagerly waiting to be turned 18 to hit the ground running in the FKK land ASAP. On the other hand, we have some "men" here who are scared to get out of their home and typing strong words on the forums to show their strength from their basements LOL.
    By your logic, people in India or Brazilian favelas are incredibly brave. The virus is everywhere, there is hardly any distancing, masks are worn perfunctorily if at all, cleaning supplies are rarely available. If you ask them though, they might say it is not bravery but lack of any choices that drives their actions.

    Let me see:

    1. The "girls" as you pointed out, are young. I think it is fair to say that this virus is impacting older people worse than younger ones. If you went down to Florida or Texas beaches in the summer, when the local governments did not shut them down or curtailed movement and attendance, young people were in throngs over there as well. Throughout the summer we have seen several photos and videos of young people flouting the rules and partying and many of them remained asymptomatic even if infected. They may have infected others. So, the FKK Romie girls are not anymore brave than our own younger people.

    2. These girls are poor or at least need the money. In the US, most of the "essential workers" were working through the pandemic. They didn't wfh. They had no choice. They needed the money. People who need the money and don't have much to lose do venture out. Did.

    You have a funny definition of bravery, I should say. Did you wfh? Did you wear a mask? Why? Why not be brave and ignore all distancing, ignore the mask, party as if there was never any Covid?

    If I have $5 M in my bank and I am 45, I still Have a long life expectation and have a lot to lose. Why would I take the same risk as a broke young girl? I can easily wait this out for another few months. Why do you think everyone in the world needs to abide by your sense of bravery and risk taking? If I tell you that bungee or parachute jumping or deep sea diving are riskless and only scaredy cats are sitting home, would you follow my lead?

    P.S. For now, I will ignore that you were so concerned about this virus in Feb, you were advocating a ban on all Asian ethnic men into the clubs to protect the rest of us. Apparently something so deadly in Feb when only a few thousand were infected is now so harmless in your mind that one needs to ignore every protocol and health expert advice to demonstrate their manhood in your view. How did the risk profile of the virus change 180 degrees in 6 months?

  3. #1752
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    As much as I agree with your overall view of this virus catastrophe, sorry I can't agree with you on this one. Most little girls (eg the FKK girls who are mostly between 18 and 30 years age) seems to be much more brave than most "men" here (who are mostly above 30 years age) who doesn't want to visit an FKK now and scared sitting (and shitting) at home. On the other hand, most of these brave little FKK girls are happily working (kissing an unknown random guy from the street who may or may not have the active virus in his body, then sucking his dick bare to make it hard, then letting him insert that dick in her pussy with or without a condom, then may even take his cum in the mouth and swallow his load for a meager 50-150 euros! And repeat that cycle as many times as possible on any given day!) at any FKK or private places they can find open, without any fear. Can anyone point me to one FKK girl who isn't working now because she's scared of this fucking virus? I would even bet that back in Romania little girls of ages 14-17 are eagerly waiting to be turned 18 to hit the ground running in the FKK land ASAP. On the other hand, we have some "men" here who are scared to get out of their home and typing strong words on the forums to show their strength from their basements LOL.
    Jeesuz. The hyperbole here is typical to what you hear on popular news outlets. There is something called being practical and and measured. One can pay attention to credible sources, understand the most likely science, process worst case and best case scenarios, and then act accordingly. Calling people out for acting out of fear is ridiculous and is definitely stolen from political speak. There is such a thing as being measured and behaving responsibly. It's not a complete social isolation versus complete promotion of super spreader lifestyle. Comparing a 25 year old female's "bravery" in risk assessment versus a 50+ year old monger's risk profile is asinine. Women already survive at twice the rate of men and sub 40 year olds are hospitalized at a quarter of the rate.

  4. #1751
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Sad that you have to resort to name calling and cheap insults, and of course you bring no new facts to the table.

    Talking about facts, here are the facts about Sweden's deaths, compared to a bunch of other countries: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc.
    Says the guys who calls people Covidiots and such. Self awareness helps credibility, amongst a half dozen other habits that seem to missing in your "covid-is-fake" posts.

  5. #1750
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Most 'men' here are acting like little girls, frozen in fear by the initial reporting in March.
    As much as I agree with your overall view of this virus catastrophe, sorry I can't agree with you on this one. Most little girls (eg the FKK girls who are mostly between 18 and 30 years age) seems to be much more brave than most "men" here (who are mostly above 30 years age) who doesn't want to visit an FKK now and scared sitting (and shitting) at home. On the other hand, most of these brave little FKK girls are happily working (kissing an unknown random guy from the street who may or may not have the active virus in his body, then sucking his dick bare to make it hard, then letting him insert that dick in her pussy with or without a condom, then may even take his cum in the mouth and swallow his load for a meager 50-150 euros! And repeat that cycle as many times as possible on any given day!) at any FKK or private places they can find open, without any fear. Can anyone point me to one FKK girl who isn't working now because she's scared of this fucking virus? I would even bet that back in Romania little girls of ages 14-17 are eagerly waiting to be turned 18 to hit the ground running in the FKK land ASAP. On the other hand, we have some "men" here who are scared to get out of their home and typing strong words on the forums to show their strength from their basements LOL.

  6. #1749
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Hamertime. You are a funny guy, sad to see that your psychiatric is still sick or he could take care of you. Sweden how many people, how many deaths? Just try to answer this very simple question and may be you can change your mind.
    Sad that you have to resort to name calling and cheap insults, and of course you bring no new facts to the table.

    Talking about facts, here are the facts about Sweden's deaths, compared to a bunch of other countries: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc.

  7. #1748
    Hamertime. You are a funny guy, sad to see that your psychiatric is still sick or he could take care of you. Sweden how many people, how many deaths? Just try to answer this very simple question and may be you can change your mind.

  8. #1747
    And next time you hear Trump comes out and says 'America first'. Think about it! Is it really Trump who came up with that? I don't think so! It is all about automation and technological superiority. Trump is not smart enough. He was put there as a puppet for a reason.

  9. #1746
    We know for example that the introduction of new technologies mainly happens in great leaps, at times of economic problems. Even if we have had the option to start using new technologies for a long time already, there have been interests withholding them from being realized at its potential. For example outsourcing to poor countries instead of automation. Or the luddite idea that people are afraid of loosing their jobs due to automation. All perfectly lined up to be changed now with covid-19!

    We also know that the countries who first adopt new technologies on a large scale will be the financial leaders of the world in trade for decades to come.

    A recent study has found out that just in the USA, 47% of all jobs can already be fully automated away. And the percentages are higher than that in the vast majority of countries around the world.

    But in order to later export this new automation, it is essential to first get it domestically.

  10. #1745
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-da...lse-positives/

    Annualized mortaility rates, even when arranged by age cohort on a histogram, also speaks to bad data that drives bad policy. The author of this is no light weight sociological fad BS artist.
    I read half of it now (and will read the rest later).

    But this one is of key importance:

    "We now know that lockdown made no difference at all to the spread of the virus. We can tell this because the interval between catching the virus and, in those who don't make it, their death is longer than the interval between lockdown and peak daily deaths. ".

    He also says that he does not look at politics. Clearly!

    Because as I have said here several times already, this whole covid-19 thing is one massive coverup trying to take the blunt of the financial crisis. As seen in the repo loan payouts starting September 2019, and was covered up massively by the MSM.

    Wallstreetonparade has written hundreds of articles about this for a more in debt look.

    The thing is, like Trump says: China, China, China.

    And what the Chinese economic model and size delivers as consequences to the rest of the world, and to USA in particular. Coupled that with the fake fiat monetary system we are using today, and you have a recipe for a great coverup: Machiavellian style.

    Here is a good video interview with Gerald Celente:

    https://youtu.be/43xrrFW5L3Q

    He is of curse one of these gold and silver guys. And that is the historical way to get through these fiat collapses we have seen dousins of times through history since ancient times. But nowadays, due to information technology and blockchain, I believe the central banks have another way out of it. But it will take some time for them realise it and get their butts moving. And it will mean massive changes to alot of people. Especially perhaps in banking.

    Oh, and the CO2 bullshit with Greta Thunberg and all of that is all just a part of the same thing. Which is also why we get a lockdown.

    Basically, we need a great leap in innovation and new technology. The country that leads the world in technology, will lead the world. And USA is scared of loosing the world hegemony to China.

    China on their part is also scared of being left in the dirt for another century. So possibly the Chinese let the virus out without telling the US financial backers, or the French.

    Another option is of course the Orwellian theory that the powers all conspire against the dumb people, and are creating an artificial conflict.

    But in either cases, this covid-19, and the global warming co2 bullshit is both part of an economic war between China (and its allies), and the west and its allies.

  11. #1744
    EL: but this is a joke, when I was much younger (white Christian) many many times I was blocked to enter discos, and I was never thinking about discrimination, racism. Today the people don t accept any selection immediately they speak about racism, discrimination but in fact all our life we are facing selections, for a job, for the beautiful girls (some guys don t need to pay for prostitutes), for our heath, for our sex (M or F), more the people react about racism, discrimination more in fact the people who financially can afford it will do everything not to live in poor areas, put their children in the best schools, now they will sell their apartments in the city centres to move to a house in the country to have a better live during corona time. And the poor people will still stay where they are and I can also predict that the city centres will get poorer and poorer with more and more criminality, with more and more people with immigration background having no other choice.

  12. #1743
    Quote Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus  [View Original Post]
    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-da...lse-positives/

    Annualized mortality rates, even when arranged by age cohort on a histogram, also speaks to bad data that drives bad policy. The author of this is no light weight sociological fad BS artist.
    Definitely not a stakeholder. Just here to call out the bullshit here and there. Bad policy perhaps and perhaps poor use of decent data but the data itself isn't bad. Author discussed flaws in testing and perhaps there are, but he is quoting numbers in regards to test specificity and positive predicted values that are well within range of most gold standard diagnosing purposes. This is where his background as a molecular scientist and not a clinician becomes evident. That and his false equivalence discussion of Flu / SARS / MERS are glaring weaknesses in his case.

    Point is, the number of concern is not the questionably useful positivity rates and definitely not the short-sighted mortality rate discussions. The real time data that gives the most insight into how serious you should take the coronavirus threat is hospitalization rates. Numbers are reliable and pertinent to assessing threat regardless of flaws in testing, cause of death arguments, blah blah blah. If it makes you sick enough to be hospitalized, we should probably take it seriously. As it stands, covid is 4-20 times more likely to put a person in the hospital versus the flu. In populations under 50, hospitalization rates are roughly 1/1000. That's a pretty significant risk for such a young age group.

    That being said, no one knows where the scales will tilt when comparing morbidity costs versus socio-economic cost. Discussions of mortality and prevalence data have been bastardized, but hospitalization rates are harder to manipulate. Running data in the USA, 443,000 people have been hospitalized in the states. That's more than 1/1000 Americans who were sick enough to be hospitalized regardless of death. By the end of the winter, that number will climb to at least 1 in 500.

  13. #1742
    "There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." - Søren Kierkegaard.

    Most people are still shell shocked and 'frozen' after the initial panic in March-April, and refuse to accept new facts and statistics.

    In the meantime, the virus is not as deadly as previously thought, infection mortality rates (a median 0,23% on page 7 on the WHO link below, and even 0,05% for people 70) are comparable to the normal flu, Sweden has proved that lockdowns and mask wearing is not necessary, the PCR test is seriously flawed to identify "cases" as already pointed out (see link below) by the PCR test inventor himself, and the hope for a quick "vaccine" is shattered by setbacks. (a vaccine takes 5-10 years to properly weed out the potentially deadly side effects).

    https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_....20.265892.pdf

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/vsKaBsWhC3CQ/

    Most 'men' here are acting like little girls, frozen in fear by the initial reporting in March.

    P.S. A German trial lawyer is preparing a class action case against the German RKI and Christian Drosten for their fraudulent use of the PCR test. Link in English: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mcyXyT3D5QFi/.

  14. #1741
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Pfizer save mankind for strong erection at older age and now Pfizer save mankind by saving FKK via finding the cure for the virus that is the cause of the closure or limited operation of many FKK!

    I hear nothing from Hessen? NRW opened, artemins opened, Globe Zurich opened, but what about Hessen region? I hope palace and Oase will be able to operate again before it is too late for them to sustain the closure fee!
    Hessen still closed, GT NRW also, LR have to close earlier, Samya Koln and Artemis have limitations. 6 ens NL had to close. And covid is growing again. Hard times to come, many countries confining.

  15. #1740

    For Mursenary and COVID stakeholders

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-da...lse-positives/

    Annualized mortaility rates, even when arranged by age cohort on a histogram, also speaks to bad data that drives bad policy. The author of this is no light weight sociological fad BS artist.

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